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Mike O
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
Gaffer Tape, how can you accuse Hunt of being the polar end of the scale when all of us have opposed it even more than he has?
And Mike, I'm sure Hunt will be very respectful. I read his column every day and he goes into things with an open mind. If he sees thse DVD's and is wowed by them, he'll tell the truth. It'll be hard if the people from TFN are yapping about why you would even want the OOT anyway though. In which case Hunt can bash thier heads in for all I care.
Oh, I have a great deal of respect for Hunt. I just know that Jay doesn't like him. Lucasfilm will probably continue to spout the bullshit that they have been saying in their official response, but hey, Hunt has a section of his website devoted explicitly to explaining why LFL can restore the OOT and just won't.
The TF.N guys were there? Oh, great. Well, Hunt is right and Lucasfilm just won't listen.
Easy there
. Why wasn't Sansweet or McCallum there? Do Lucasfilm not even have the balls to defend their own products? Or do they know that it is substandard ans simply not want to admit it?
As for the TFN guys, I don't give a shit if they think alienating fans makes Lucas more money. It doesn't work on me. I'm not buying a shitty product just because it has Star Wars stamped on it. Let Lucas come to me. If he doesn't care, then he will get no money from fans such as myself.
Gaffer Tape, how can you accuse Hunt of being the polar end of the scale when all of us have opposed it even more than he has?
And Mike, I'm sure Hunt will be very respectful. I read his column every day and he goes into things with an open mind. If he sees thse DVD's and is wowed by them, he'll tell the truth. It'll be hard if the people from TFN are yapping about why you would even want the OOT anyway though. In which case Hunt can bash thier heads in for all I care.
Oh, I have a great deal of respect for Hunt. I just know that Jay doesn't like him. Lucasfilm will probably continue to spout the bullshit that they have been saying in their official response, but hey, Hunt has a section of his website devoted explicitly to explaining why LFL can restore the OOT and just won't.
The TF.N guys were there? Oh, great. Well, Hunt is right and Lucasfilm just won't listen.
Star Wars will get milked too much one day, and the cash cow will die.
I hope so, but I doubt it.
What Lucasfilm press release was TheForce.net guy reading from? Was Sansweet off camera feeding him lines? Did he say the right things so "Uncle George" will use four fingers on him tonight? Hunts far from my favorite person, but at least he said fans would be satisified with a proper release of the movies, meaning a new modern video transfer.
I hope so, but I doubt it.
What Lucasfilm press release was TheForce.net guy reading from? Was Sansweet off camera feeding him lines? Did he say the right things so "Uncle George" will use four fingers on him tonight? Hunts far from my favorite person, but at least he said fans would be satisified with a proper release of the movies, meaning a new modern video transfer.
Easy there

As for the TFN guys, I don't give a shit if they think alienating fans makes Lucas more money. It doesn't work on me. I'm not buying a shitty product just because it has Star Wars stamped on it. Let Lucas come to me. If he doesn't care, then he will get no money from fans such as myself.
How can alienating fans make more money? What does it profit a man to gain the world if he loses his soul? So the product is making money. That doesn't mean that it is a quality product.
Unfortunately, most people will buy anything labeled Star Wars, which means that Lucas can do whatever he wants.
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- Audio tracks on 2006 OOT
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P.S. This is pretty good for a "bonus" feature, to have the movie in three different languages. Almost makes it seem like it's the main attraction....
It is. Lucas just won't admit it.
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- First Impressions of the OOT ...
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Bah, I don't care how good these DVDs might look, Lucasfilm could have easilly done a better Job. More importantly, this release is not worth purchasing the 2004 edits again (I already feel like burning the ones I own and I don't want a freakin' pair set).
Are you sending them back?
Exactly what is he making up? Lucasfilm can do a proper restoration that gives these films the respect that they deserve. They are not. Therefore, they deserve the criticism which they recieve. Lucas dislikes the original theatrial versions while millions of people prefer them. starwars.com is running the item which devalues their own product. What shit is he making up? Mverta is very intelligent, to the point of being a bit intimidating, INMESHO. Read some of his posts.
The materials exist to make a fully restored OT DVD, scanned already
Bah, I don't care how good these DVDs might look, Lucasfilm could have easilly done a better Job. More importantly, this release is not worth purchasing the 2004 edits again (I already feel like burning the ones I own and I don't want a freakin' pair set).
Are you sending them back?
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Another curious move is making up shit to make yourself sound intelligent.
Originally posted by: mverta
The opening crawl is bullshit - spotted the fake gate-weave right away. What's even worse is that if you have any ability at all, you can do a completely convincing, organic looking gate weave; I've had to do that a bunch for other projects. It just screams digital post gag.
Also, I'm willing to put some serious money on the fact that grain has been added to ANH, at least. Again, maybe it's from 12 years of doing this stuff every day, but there's a look to post-added grain that I noticed in a bunch of scenes.
There are two truths: 1) The materials exist to make a fully restored OT DVD, scanned already. 2) Lucas does not want the OT to supplant the SE. The images are being deliberately served up to look worse, from the unnecessary sourcing of laserdisc masters when better materials exist, to the non-anamorphic transfer, etc. They're even running a "campaign" on StarWars.com showcasing the differences between the 1977 and 2004 versions of the films, so that fans can see just how much better the 2004's are. It's a curious move to deliberately devalue a product you just released, isn't it?
_Mike
The opening crawl is bullshit - spotted the fake gate-weave right away. What's even worse is that if you have any ability at all, you can do a completely convincing, organic looking gate weave; I've had to do that a bunch for other projects. It just screams digital post gag.
Also, I'm willing to put some serious money on the fact that grain has been added to ANH, at least. Again, maybe it's from 12 years of doing this stuff every day, but there's a look to post-added grain that I noticed in a bunch of scenes.
There are two truths: 1) The materials exist to make a fully restored OT DVD, scanned already. 2) Lucas does not want the OT to supplant the SE. The images are being deliberately served up to look worse, from the unnecessary sourcing of laserdisc masters when better materials exist, to the non-anamorphic transfer, etc. They're even running a "campaign" on StarWars.com showcasing the differences between the 1977 and 2004 versions of the films, so that fans can see just how much better the 2004's are. It's a curious move to deliberately devalue a product you just released, isn't it?
_Mike
Another curious move is making up shit to make yourself sound intelligent.
Exactly what is he making up? Lucasfilm can do a proper restoration that gives these films the respect that they deserve. They are not. Therefore, they deserve the criticism which they recieve. Lucas dislikes the original theatrial versions while millions of people prefer them. starwars.com is running the item which devalues their own product. What shit is he making up? Mverta is very intelligent, to the point of being a bit intimidating, INMESHO. Read some of his posts.
The materials exist to make a fully restored OT DVD, scanned already
What do you mean "scanned already?"
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- IMPORTANT! ATTENTION FANS OF DISNEY'S GARGOYLES AND ANIMATION
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I'd only assist on this cause if Disney kept on its broken promise to finish a restored version of "The Thief and the Cobbler" closer to Richard William's original vision. THAT'S worth saving, not Gargoyles...
Well, Gagoyles may be off the air, but imagine if Firefly had not only been cancelled, but we didn't even have our DVD sets? I know nothing of The Thief and the Cobbler, but we need all of the help that we can get. Plus, remember, Diney split from Maramax. That might be why they bailed. Please, I impore you, we need all of the help that we can get!
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I never really got into Gargoyles, but I've always heard it was really good.
Not releasing the whole show on DVD is just stupid.
Well, Gagoyles may be off the air, but imagine if Firefly had not only been cancelled, but we didn't even have our DVD sets? I know nothing of The Thief and the Cobbler, but we need all of the help that we can get. Plus, remember, Diney split from Maramax. That might be why they bailed. Please, I impore you, we need all of the help that we can get!
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I never really got into Gargoyles, but I've always heard it was really good.
Not releasing the whole show on DVD is just stupid.
Can we count on you to spread the word as far and wide as possible?
Creator Greg Wiseman told fans at ComicCon that if they each told 1,000 people to buy the last two sets then that would be enough. The recent Gargoyles comics sold out, so Disney must have noticed, so this would be perfect timing. Sales have been reasonably steady, we just need to raise them.
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- Tune Into G4 This Afternoon...
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Originally posted by: Zion
Too bad I can't actually merge threads. The new software will be here sooner than you think though...
Too bad I can't actually merge threads. The new software will be here sooner than you think though...
You keep saying that

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- 2004 / 2006 OT DVD: Crazy Idea
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"We want you to be aware that we have no plans-now or in the future-to restore the earlier versions."
Then I have no plans, now or in the future, to purchase any future Star Wars and Lucasfilm DVDs, magazines, comic books, action figures,model kits, video games, toys, or any other products ever again until the originals are properly restored.
Simple but effective.
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- HollywoodLand
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- The Hobbit starting in 2007?
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- Poll: Do You Think the OUT will be Released Again in '07?
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Originally posted by: ESHBG
I hope to God that you are right. And, as I've state on numerous occasions, I firmly believe that Lucas anything but stupid, especially when it comes to marketing. Say what you will about the man, there's a reason he's rich. I see your logic, and I agree with it. I just hope that Lucas does.
Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
Mike! Put your PMs on!! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!
And a proper OOT release can still be achieved. Have faith, people!
Originally posted by: Mike O
That's the attiutde that I like to see! I just hope that you're right. It's always possible that Lucas, especially judging from his comments on the MTV interview, really and truly didn't think that the OOT would sell well. I would make perfect sense for a remastered OOT to appear sometime in the future, and soon, particularly in the 2007 box. I just don't want to get my hopes up and then have them dashed.
I think Lucas is a pretty downright evil business man...smart, but evil. I sometimes feel like he made those comments in a mocking way, to get more people to buy them. He KNOWS and has known the demand for these is there, so for him to play it off like he is not sure is a total joke IMO.
Well let's use the angle that he didn't want these OUT releases for a second. But they are out today anyway, aren't they? So he put aside his ego long enough to allow these to come out! If it can happen once, it is sure to happen again becasuse these are selling like hot cakes. LFL has shown us all time and time again that they will go back on their words, lie, bend the truth, etc., if they can make a buck off of it...IMO the OUT will be no exception, and we will see it again, completely remastered and restored...
That's the attiutde that I like to see! I just hope that you're right. It's always possible that Lucas, especially judging from his comments on the MTV interview, really and truly didn't think that the OOT would sell well. I would make perfect sense for a remastered OOT to appear sometime in the future, and soon, particularly in the 2007 box. I just don't want to get my hopes up and then have them dashed.
I think Lucas is a pretty downright evil business man...smart, but evil. I sometimes feel like he made those comments in a mocking way, to get more people to buy them. He KNOWS and has known the demand for these is there, so for him to play it off like he is not sure is a total joke IMO.
Money talks and bullshit walks. Leonard Nimoy didn't like playing Mr. Spock either, but when he was offered enough money, he put the ears back on. Lucas has seen how pissed off fans got at the treatement of the OOT in the September release, and he knows that there is a market for a restoration. It's just a question of how willing he is to put aside his ego.
Well let's use the angle that he didn't want these OUT releases for a second. But they are out today anyway, aren't they? So he put aside his ego long enough to allow these to come out! If it can happen once, it is sure to happen again becasuse these are selling like hot cakes. LFL has shown us all time and time again that they will go back on their words, lie, bend the truth, etc., if they can make a buck off of it...IMO the OUT will be no exception, and we will see it again, completely remastered and restored...
I hope to God that you are right. And, as I've state on numerous occasions, I firmly believe that Lucas anything but stupid, especially when it comes to marketing. Say what you will about the man, there's a reason he's rich. I see your logic, and I agree with it. I just hope that Lucas does.
Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
Mike! Put your PMs on!! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!
And a proper OOT release can still be achieved. Have faith, people!
I hope so too. And at the moment, PMs wouldn't make much difference. My computer is on fritz. It's hard to even post here.
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- 2006 OT DVD: Well today's the day...
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- BACK TO SCHOOL
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- SUPERMAN RETURNS REVIEW
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Timm's Supes, though, was an excellent character, and seems to be what Singer was attemping to do with SR. "The Late Mr. Kent," for example, explores Superman's dual identity superbly.
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- The Hobbit starting in 2007?
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Makes up? What happened between them?
Originally posted by: Mike O
I'm just hoping that he makes up with Howard Shore. How awesome would it be to hear his score thundering thought Jackson's blistering vision of the Battle of Five armies.
I'm just hoping that he makes up with Howard Shore. How awesome would it be to hear his score thundering thought Jackson's blistering vision of the Battle of Five armies.
Makes up? What happened between them?
"Creative differences" on King Kong. Which I would conjecture means a clash of egos.
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- 9/11 5 years later
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- Could Lucas screw movies up anymore (Indy 4)
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Yeah, the quote pretty much suggests that he honestly believes that TPM was ill-received because it defied expectations, rather than it was simply a crap movie, which it was...
It's kind of like the gimmicks: "We're making films in 3-D and improving special effects techiques. How can we attract the audience if this does not work?"
Um, have you tried making good movies?
Have you guys seen the the script for AvP 2? Aye aye Aye is it bad.
Yeah, the quote pretty much suggests that he honestly believes that TPM was ill-received because it defied expectations, rather than it was simply a crap movie, which it was...
It's kind of like the gimmicks: "We're making films in 3-D and improving special effects techiques. How can we attract the audience if this does not work?"
Um, have you tried making good movies?
Have you guys seen the the script for AvP 2? Aye aye Aye is it bad.
Please God, no more AvP. I'll just go watch my disc of Cameron's Aliens, thanks. It's just as entertaing twenty years later.
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- Poll: Do You Think the OUT will be Released Again in '07?
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I just cant see him spending the big bucks restoring something he doesnt like
Money talks and bullshit walks. Leonard Nimoy didn't like playing Mr. Spock either, but when he was offered enough money, he put the ears back on. Lucas has seen how pissed off fans got at the treatement of the OOT in the September release, and he knows that there is a market for a restoration. It's just a question of how willing he is to put aside his ego.
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- Poll: Do You Think the OUT will be Released Again in '07?
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I can picture a sort of half-ass presentation of the originals to shut us up.
Then it wouldn't shut us up

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- 2006 OT DVD: Are my eyes deceiving me?
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- www.dvdempire.com O-OT pre-orders rankings (updated)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243153/action/topic#243153
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- 2006 OT DVD: Got mine!
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Originally posted by: ESHBG
Interesting. I know there are rumors about the '07 boxed set, but now there are rumors about an anamorphic OUT too? I imagine the reviewer is simply referring to the same rumor, but hey, you never know...
However, the non-anamorphic picture of the original version is a real let down and I’m convinced it’s been a deliberate move to leave scope to sell us the anamorphic version rumoured for release next year.
Interesting. I know there are rumors about the '07 boxed set, but now there are rumors about an anamorphic OUT too? I imagine the reviewer is simply referring to the same rumor, but hey, you never know...
I hope so, but that just seems to be too good to be true.
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- 2006 OT DVD: Poll: So What are You Going to Do?
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Well, I've been suckered into buying nearly every OT video release in the last 15 years, including the SE laserdiscs and the '04 DVDs (and I don't even LIKE the SEs!)
But, there's NO WAY I'm going to buy any $100 boxed set (or whatever it's going to cost) that includes the PTs and another set of the SEs. IF they include new transfers of the OOT, I'll buy it and sell the other discs on eBay, but failing that- that's it, I'm done.
I agree. If it includes a remastered OOT, I'll pay absolutely any price. Otherwise, my answer is the same as it is to everything that LFL releases until I get what I want: "that's nice."
I don't know, I think even the die hard SW fans who must own everything are getting a little burned out and I don't think it will sell as well as Lucas thinks. With the 09/12 release, I HIGHLY doubt someone could justify owning the same movie 3 times (SE) and 2 times (PT) no matter how much they like SW.
Lucas is screwing himself big time with this Sept. release IMO, and he would've been better off giving the OOT proper treatment and waiting until next year and doing the '07 boxed set. He could've started the marketing now and created A LOT of hype. But alas, his poor business decisions have gotten the best of him yet again...
Well, I've been suckered into buying nearly every OT video release in the last 15 years, including the SE laserdiscs and the '04 DVDs (and I don't even LIKE the SEs!)
But, there's NO WAY I'm going to buy any $100 boxed set (or whatever it's going to cost) that includes the PTs and another set of the SEs. IF they include new transfers of the OOT, I'll buy it and sell the other discs on eBay, but failing that- that's it, I'm done.
I agree. If it includes a remastered OOT, I'll pay absolutely any price. Otherwise, my answer is the same as it is to everything that LFL releases until I get what I want: "that's nice."
Originally posted by: ESHBG
Hopefully, nobody, but probably many people.
Originally posted by: Mike O
Yeah, I'm not really sure what they're aiming at with the '07 box set. More SE changes? Some extras? WTF, who's buying that??
Yeah, I'm not really sure what they're aiming at with the '07 box set. More SE changes? Some extras? WTF, who's buying that??
Hopefully, nobody, but probably many people.
I don't know, I think even the die hard SW fans who must own everything are getting a little burned out and I don't think it will sell as well as Lucas thinks. With the 09/12 release, I HIGHLY doubt someone could justify owning the same movie 3 times (SE) and 2 times (PT) no matter how much they like SW.
Lucas is screwing himself big time with this Sept. release IMO, and he would've been better off giving the OOT proper treatment and waiting until next year and doing the '07 boxed set. He could've started the marketing now and created A LOT of hype. But alas, his poor business decisions have gotten the best of him yet again...
Well, it seems that anything with the SW logo attached will sell well, but I just think that, apart from a remastered OOT, Lucas doesn't have much left to sell. You just can't except LFL to think that way. Most people didn't like the SEs to begin with, and I doubt that even those who did will be interesed in more changes. As I've stated many times, that would make sense: use all of this stuff to test the waters and then make the 2007 set the ultimate SW set. But Lucas's ego is apparently impossible to contend with, especially with Rick McCallum.
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- 2004 / 2006 OT DVD: Crazy Idea
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Originally posted by: Mielr
From what I've heard from people who got the discs early, the DVDs are identical to the 2004 discs. Sorry.
From what I've heard from people who got the discs early, the DVDs are identical to the 2004 discs. Sorry.
LFL are just trying to get rid of their excess 2004 stock since so few people want the 2004 discs anymore, presumably. What, I wonder, could they do to increase sales, especially for the 30th anniversary? Hmm.