Mike O

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Post: #248528
Topic: Send the extra discs back!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248528/action/topic#248528
Time: 28-Sep-2006 1:18 PM

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Along with Lucas' own words about colorization, Jay should put that Huxley quote on the home page.

I wish Jay would start up a new petition or something. We're gaining ground, and we really shouldn't give up now. I've hardly seen him lately.

I wonder how many people sent their back? Strength in numbers.

Post: #248521
Topic: was was it called ?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248521/action/topic#248521
Time: 28-Sep-2006 11:48 AM

Originally posted by: 20th Century Mark
I remember when Empire first came out many theatres had it labeled as "Star Wars 2"

For commercial purposes, no doubt.

The episode numbering is propably part of Lucas's endless obsession of late to prove that he had this big saga planned all along.

Post: #248519
Topic: SW Limited Edditions on ebay
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248519/action/topic#248519
Time: 28-Sep-2006 11:47 AM

"Now we'll find out whether people really wanted the originals, or whether they wanted the improved versions. I will all come out in the end."

George Lucas. How much stock you put in that quote depends on a lot of things, but there you go.

Post: #248430
Topic: BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248430/action/topic#248430
Time: 27-Sep-2006 11:28 PM

Nice. Very nice.

I stand by what I said about the eyes, though.

Post: #248377
Topic: The X-Files - Worth Watching?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248377/action/topic#248377
Time: 27-Sep-2006 5:12 PM

Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
The DOP on the show was a guy called Bill Roe. His work on the X-Files won him the ASC Award for Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography in a TV Series (he was also a nominee a number of times). I would personally say that at times the show reached a level of cinematography on a par with cinematic quality (and at times better). The look of the X-Files has been shamelessy copied ever since to the point where people don't know what they are looking at is a rip-off because it's so common (kinda like the Matrix / bullet time).

The Matrix borrowed from its fair share. I love the movie, but I'd be very surprised if there's a single original idea in it.

Post: #248376
Topic: BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248376/action/topic#248376
Time: 27-Sep-2006 5:04 PM

How many mens magazines can she be in? Wow.

Post: #248375
Topic: The Black Dahila
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248375/action/topic#248375
Time: 27-Sep-2006 5:03 PM

WOW, the reviews for this are bad. I thought it was disjointed and miscast, and I could name many, many better films, but I didn't think it was that bad. Interesting to see that DePalma mostly stayed away from his "look at me, I'm Hitchcock" stuff, with the exception of starwell sequence. I'm going to go watch L.A. Confidential now. That's how its supposed to be done.

Post: #248374
Topic: The Hobbit starting in 2007?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248374/action/topic#248374
Time: 27-Sep-2006 5:00 PM

Originally posted by: THX
Thanks for that link, Lord Phillock.

Doesn't look like it will be coming along soon, at least not with Jackson's involvement. I'm not into the 2 film idea - that seems like milking it. You need Jackson, Shore, McKellen. Holm is optional.

Agreed. If the volumes of the LOTR trilogy could each be a single part, then The Hobbit could be fit more than comfortatbly into one film. I hope Jackson does it soon.

Post: #248373
Topic: Limited Edition DVDs not coming from LD masters?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248373/action/topic#248373
Time: 27-Sep-2006 4:59 PM

except the opening crawl, which was added from another source.

A source which they won't use to create a better release.

Post: #248372
Topic: SW Limited Edditions on ebay
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248372/action/topic#248372
Time: 27-Sep-2006 4:58 PM

Lucasfilm doesn't get the profits, however, and it doesn't seem like a vote for the OOT. Then again, Lucas probably doesn't care anyways.

Post: #248280
Topic: BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248280/action/topic#248280
Time: 27-Sep-2006 9:14 AM

She's been in a whole bunch of magazines and whatnot, hasn't she?

Post: #248245
Topic: The X-Files - Worth Watching?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248245/action/topic#248245
Time: 27-Sep-2006 2:07 AM

Post: #248242
Topic: Worst movies ever.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248242/action/topic#248242
Time: 27-Sep-2006 1:50 AM

Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
I saw Ring (1998) and Ring 2 (1999) (i.e. the original Japanese versions) in a midnight double bill a few years ago in Edinburgh.

Ring - scared the bejeesus outta me...

Ring 2 - hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.

[Scientist goes to tap and runs some water into a glass beaker]

[Scientist brings beaker over to main character]

Scientist: "This is tap water."

You're kidding, right?

Post: #248241
Topic: The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248241/action/topic#248241
Time: 27-Sep-2006 1:49 AM

Originally posted by: zombie84
Thats actually very true. Works of art survive by the general consensus of the population. Its like the idea of a meme. If a work is not loved, then it withers away and is forgotten, for it has nothing of value to bring to society. If a work is loved then it is cherished and remembered, for it has something of value to bring to society. Society loved the OT with as much love as the public could have for a film series but its reaction to the PT was one of indifference, at best. The PT will sort of fade away, simply because society wont let it be recognized in the same category as Star Wars or the OOT. Why do you think Lucas is so worried to release the OOT? The decision to only have the OT-SE because "thats the one that is good and thats the one he wants the public to remember" smacks of insecurity at its most blatant. If it is as good as Lucas thinks then society will embrace it regardless of his actions or statements. And Lucas knows that society will reject the SE and uphold the OOT, which is why he has been so active to work against this. But he cant stop it. He can't change society, for all his power and control in every other facet of his life. Public opinion is the one thing that we control.

I hope so. I is true that many people still prefer the OOT. I just hope it can remain so with Lucas's attemtps to destroy it.

Post: #248232
Topic: Raul2106
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248232/action/topic#248232
Time: 27-Sep-2006 12:54 AM

Originally posted by: TheCassidy

Originally posted by: Mike O

Originally posted by: TheCassidy

Originally posted by: Wesyeed
yeah what the hell's been with the recent influx of trolls? They had no interest in fucking with us here before. Must be the new dvd or something...

Sort've...when TFN banned all of the bashing (ie: anyone who wasn't a blind follower of the cult of Star Wars) there was a massive internet exodus, and unfortunately, many of the bottom feeders ended up here.

So, we're graced with topics in the General section which are usually right at home at TFN.

You've met him over at fanedited.com. Is he still saying that there will be a proper OOT DVD release in the boxed set next year?

Not exactly. He knows he's on thin ice - he still has that smug "I know something and you don't" schtick, but he doesn't post there nearly as much.

I hope he's right, I really do.

Post: #248218
Topic: Quit Whining
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248218/action/topic#248218
Time: 26-Sep-2006 11:56 PM

Originally posted by: bbbbYou guys are right though. GL could have given us the real thing and not some 1993 laserdisc transfer. However is that going to happen? I've been waiting for this OOT DVD release to come to reality for years now. I tried to get it in 700mb format and actually succeeded back in 2005 with the ISOMIX version from the 1988 VCD. Then my harddrive died and (weep) lost ROTJ. I finally have a 700mb format of the 1993 laserdisc release but ROTJ wasn't transfered right. Then came Sept 12th and my wish was finally granted on a permanent basis. How long do DVDs last?

Lucas has some kind of genetic inability release things only once. We'll see a proper OOT DVD release eventually, hoepfully soon.

Post: #248212
Topic: Amazon Top 100 Ratings for the OOT DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248212/action/topic#248212
Time: 26-Sep-2006 11:33 PM

They're sliding down the bestseller list, though. What that means, I have no idea, but I'm not sure if its good or bad. At the very least, Lucas has seen that there is a market for the OOT. I just can't help but think this is a sign of something, probably a bad one, with out luck.

Post: #248195
Topic: The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248195/action/topic#248195
Time: 26-Sep-2006 9:49 PM

Originally posted by: CO

[Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic

As much as I respect all of your opinions, I still get this huge feeling like a lot of you don't like the prequels simply because they -aren't- the OT. Sometimes it seems as though a lot of you had no problem effortlessly suspending your disbelief for the classic trilogy, but now it seems like you guys are expecting the prequel trilogy to be more perfect than the classic trilogy had to be.
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GoMer, I think you are genuine in your love for the PT, and I think there will always be a diehard PT fanbase, or saga fanbase out there, but I think many from your side just don't understand that the reason many of us don't love the PT movies is because they are not great movies, plain & simple. I think the debates about all the details we discuss, and there are countless of them from the PT, are just a sideshow or a mask for the real reason we don't love them.

Most friends I know who are SW fans think ANH & ESB are the two best, and it is split among us on which is our favorite. Fans like me who just love the good vs evil feelgood story probably love ANH, and fans that like the gritty, darker tone probably have ESB as their favorite. But make no mistake about it, in just movie terms, they are both classics IMO, and that has nothing to do with being a SW fan.

Those same friends all think ROTJ is inferior, some more then others, and ROTJ is the first movie in movie history that gets a pass because of it predecessors. In a movie sense ROTJ is an average movie that recycles many points from ANH, but in a SW sense, I still love it, why? Because it gives me a conclusion to my two favorite films of all-time, and it is a good enough sequel where it has passed the test of time 23 years later, when if I compared many films to the quality of ROTJ that I saw in 1983 and didn't have SW plastered on it, I wouldn't watch it ever again.

The PT movies are extension of ROTJ for many, but now we don't need the PT story to fulfill the OT story, and that is why many fans will watch an OK/average/pretty good ROTJ and will bury the PT movies. I feel ROTJ & The PT movies are on par: Great moments, and bad moments, and it is OK to have one movie that is alright in my trilogy of the OT, but now after watching 6 movies in the saga, you are asking me to watch 4 average movies?

Everyone here wanted to love the PT, and everyone I feel has given it a chance, and it just comes to down to them not liking it, but cause it is SW, you search for something that may change your mind. I do believe there were a faction of OT fans who would never love the PT, mainly cause of the characters. I do believe there were a faction of OT fans who would never love the PT, mainly cause of the story. But that happens whenever you make any sequel or prequel, cause no SW movie has ever grossed as much as ANH, so Lucas has been losing fans since 1980.

Star Wars stood alone. I was what it was. I think that the sequels and the endless marketing have altered peoples' perception of it, but I think that mere fact that people are still interested 30 years later means that the magic is alive.

Post: #248193
Topic: My Legendary Deed
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248193/action/topic#248193
Time: 26-Sep-2006 9:47 PM

I hope so. I just didn't think that it would make the kind of splash that it has. My worst case scenario was the fear that only a niche audience was interested and Lucas was doing it to say that no one wanted the OOT, so that he could bury. If that was the plan, it failed miserably. Of course, he could still say that now the people who want it have it and move on, which is a likely possibilty, but I didn't anticipate the level of controversy and protest that these discs have generated. All kinds of forums are talking about the non-anamorphic issue. I think that so many people just assumed that he would release the OOT and everybody would be happy that hardly anyone dreamed that he would treat it like this. Lucas has reveled his true feelings, and I think that a lot of people are, excuse the language, really pissed off. I just wonder if this means anything, and of course if we'll ever see proper release. I'd give all the whiskey in Ireland for Raul to have been right. Lucas played his card and got trumped. Now the cards are on the table, and poker face or no, everyone can see. He's only got one ace left in the hole, and he's too stubborn to use it.

Post: #248190
Topic: The X-Files - Worth Watching?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248190/action/topic#248190
Time: 26-Sep-2006 9:41 PM

Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father

Originally posted by: Mike O

Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
What do you mean Mike?

The show is fictional, but for the most part the stories are based on actual phenomenon/legends. Whether or not Aliens and abductions are actually real I can't say (I believe they are, btw).

I mean are they real on the show?

Yeah, they are real on teh show. i.e, Mulder is not paranoid - this shit is really happening: he just has trouble getting evidence to make other people believe him.

Interestingly phrased. And thank you. As I understand it, the production values were top notch, and nearly every episode look like a mini-movie with high quality photography, score, and special effects.

Post: #248189
Topic: BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248189/action/topic#248189
Time: 26-Sep-2006 9:40 PM

boodwa.co.uk site there are a few more photos of Poppy.

Meaning? What, the kind that you can't post or what? I'm not following

Without A Trace's 4th season has not long started here in the uk - seems to be getting back on form

Jerry Bruckheimer is a keen businessman, that's for sure. Poppy is from, Australia, I believe? Always attemping to find the hot new talent, literally.

You're right about the eyes - am not sure if it the cold straring blonde thing or not?

You can tell a lot about a person by looking into her eyes. I just saying that her eyes didn't seem to have much warmth. It's odd, I know, and difficult to explain. They strike me as so cold, if you get what I'm saying.

Post: #248177
Topic: Send the extra discs back!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248177/action/topic#248177
Time: 26-Sep-2006 8:47 PM

Originally posted by: HammerinHank
Here's the letter I sent to Lucasfilm:

Jim Ward
Senior Vice President
Lucasfilm Ltd.
5858 Lucas Valley Rd.
Nicasio, CA 94946

September 22, 2006

Dear Sir:

I recently purchased the "Special Edition" DVDs of the original Star Wars trilogy with the "bonus" discs. I am returning the "special editions"and keeping the "bonus" i.e., original versions of these classic films, which I began to watch back in 1977. At $17.87 per disc (from Amazon), I consider the deal a bargain. Please sell or give the "Special Edition" discs to someone who may appreciate them, or keep them if you like; I have no interest in them whatsoever. I believe George Lucas' artistic vision has become... clouded, shall we say, in the past few years.

"[T]o attempt to patch a faulty work into the perfection it missed at its first execution, to spend one's middle age in trying to mend the artistic sins committed and bequeathed by that different person who was oneself in youth - all this is surely vain and futile." -Aldous Huxley

Sincerely,
Henry M. Steffee

Think if enough people send in their discs, the corporate types will get the message that there's a substantial number of potential
customers who just want the original flicks?

By the way, thanx to the other forum member (I was browsing, don't remember which post it was) for finding the Huxley quote, and I
hope you don't mind my using it for my letter, I thought it was apropo.

I don't think it will radically change anything, but hopefully someone will notice.

Post: #248174
Topic: Does anyone here watch Family Guy? They do a ton of SW spoofs!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248174/action/topic#248174
Time: 26-Sep-2006 8:19 PM

They spoof just about everything from what I've seen.

Post: #248173
Topic: Happy Birthday Mark Hamill - September 25th
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248173/action/topic#248173
Time: 26-Sep-2006 8:19 PM

Originally posted by: Darth_Evil

Originally posted by: Anchorhead

Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
Wouldn't it have been great if you'd gone on to bigger and better thangs like you're buddy Harrison Ford?

Like what? - The carbon copy man-standing-up-to-authority role that he plays in every film these days? Complete with the one, overly-assertive, stern-faced, line shown in the trailer for every one of those movies. It's always the turning point where the everyman that he always plays finally takes control of his situation...

"How dare you, sir!"

"Get off of my plane!"

"Give me back my wife!"

He's settled nicely into typecasting. A new Indiana Jones would be a welcome change.

Well, at least the man has done something with his career. Mark Hamill was great in Star Wars, but did he do anything big after it? Anything noteworthy? I think not.

With all due respect to Hamill, it might have something to do with his acting ability. In any case, he's done all right for himself and no one will ever forget him as the Joker. All the best Mark

Post: #248171
Topic: The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248171/action/topic#248171
Time: 26-Sep-2006 8:18 PM

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
To me ANH doesn't stand up to such strict applications of logic either, so it's all just more of what makes Star Wars what Star Wars is to me.

I appreciate fantastic things like these because they ignite my imagination to come up with other possiblities that could make sense of them.

There's an old movie buff joke about that. Historical accuracy? Which was better Tombstone or Wyatt Earp? One day, when I see, them, maybe I will get the joke.