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#295114
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Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295114/action/topic#295114
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Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
GOD DAMN! I hate it when everything turns into this depressing bullshit! You are all such Debbie Downers I want to blow my brains out!

Yeah, well, Star Wars-wise Lucas hasn't given us a fucking thing to be thankful for lately.

Now if we and all you Negative Nancies can take nothing else from this letter, it's that if Lucasfilm will not, for some reason, from strange excuses to outlandish conspiracies, will not release the best movie ever in a proper format for the classic fans as those who come to this forum, we'll just have to show a little ingenuity.

I didn't necessarily take it to mean that any MOREso than his other statements that he's gone back on; he didn't directly state that.

If Lucasfilm won't give Star Wars what it needs, then we'll just have to.

We can't, not to the degree that's necessary. And we shouldn't have to.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g40/DledRhapsody/TantiveWall.jpg


No, it won't be perfect, it won't be perfect until Lucasfilm does a proper transfer from the original negatives once again.


If they do.

And if he's actually taped over his copy, then another can be easily salvaged from deep within the safe, secure, environment-controlled vaults of the British Film Institute or the American Film Institute.



Oh, there are plenty of ways that it COULD be done. Don't delude yourself that this isn't possible.

Now come on people, cheer the fuck up.


Yeah, well, everyday more and more evidence points towards us not getting what we want, so we have little reason to cheer the fuck up.
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#295113
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One more you lose George....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295113/action/topic#295113
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Originally posted by: ronlaw
How about BladeRunner??? The number of options is a little silly, but you can buy exactly what you want on any format.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/R2VT2ECILZ4O3B

Now that's respecting the source material. A new cut, the theatrical cut, the DVD cut, AND the interim laserdisc/video cut. All restored properly. And even a workprint version if you want!

But then I guess BladeRunner is a much bigger franchise than the relatively obscure Star Wars series. Still, at least Star Wars has a lot more depth and sophistication ... OH WAIT


To say nothing of the fact that the the Blade Runner sets are selling off of the shelves before they're even out.
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#295068
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Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295068/action/topic#295068
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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
Lucas virtually bypassed DVD for the OOT- all we got in 2006 was just a smaller laserdisc. The reason we may get a letterboxed Blu-ray of the OOT because one would think that it's impossible, but it will horribly happen because Lucas is there. Optimism died in 1997 for SW fans in relation to the OOT. Iv'e accepted that SW is dead because Lucas has proven once and for all that nobody cares about the OOT because he literally rigged the GOUT in order to justify his continuous destruction of the largest block of pop culture in the last 30 years. He deliberately chose to relase the GOUT to both a) intentionally make the GOUT bomb and b) forestall everyone's predictions of a 30th anniversary boxset by stating that "we jumped in the saarlacc pit too many times" with a completely intentional marketing failure. The OT today has now become an afterthought to the PT, just some straight to DVD work of what could of happened after Anakin fell to the dark side. Lucas has now based his entire life purpose on a trilogy of absolute cinematic failure(the PT) instead of the OT that has, for better or for worse, shaped our culture. That's why he can wear a "Han shot first" T-shirt because he knows that he has defeated the fanbase for the OOT and the original cuts no longer bother him because everybody has accepted the SE and no one, in his mind, can challenge him. He can personally insult the fanbase whenever he wants. Now every fan of the OOT has become bitter at the acceleration of home theater systems because every film except three of them will be shown in optimal digital quality. We might as well go insane and live in an early 90s time warp.


Depends on how far the mainstream the PT fans take him.
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#294781
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Lucas wearing "Han shot first" shirt during Indy IV production
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294781/action/topic#294781
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
The only think that gets me in a tizzy is finally seeing how you edited Jar Jar Binks out of Ep1. That'll rock.


Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair. It's gonna take more than just removing some nasty visuals. Not even worth the trouble.


They're certainly beyond any repair you're capable of making. But keep reachin' for the stars, Champ.


Then you admit that the prequels suck beyond repair ?

In any case, what the **** difference does it make what he does with them? Lucas's vision is hardly compromised by an edit that what, 50 people TOPS will ever see? A fan edit does no harm to anyone. Just leave him be. Fans trying to preserve the OOT clearly love it a hell of a lot more than Lucas does. He's made his bed. Now let him lie in it. He deserves the bootlegs till he get his head out. There wouldn't be any need for it if he'd release the original beloved versions of the three most popular an influential movies ever made properly. If he won't, then someone else will try to. Notice that there is a market for them.
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#294474
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Rest In Peace, Ingmar Bergman, 1918-2007
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294474/action/topic#294474
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Originally posted by: zombie84
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Originally posted by: sean wookie
Originally posted by: TheCassidy
Originally posted by: sean wookie
This is the guy who did The Seventh Seal right? Even though I've never seen a movie of his RIP.


You wouldn't like it.


How do you know?


Because you've already made up your mind about God.


I don't think this has anything to do with the ability to enjoy a Bergman film. Atheist or Christian, his films are still powerful and I doubt they would persuade one's beliefs one way or another.


Bergman leaned more towards atheism to my mind. I'm a Catholic and enjoy his films a great deal.


And rest in peace Ingmar. Your debt to the cinema can never be repaid.
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#294194
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I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294194/action/topic#294194
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei
just an observation:

There wasn't a home video release of Star Wars until 1982 and by that point vhs/betamax had been around for a good six years. Based on those numbers, we won't be seeing a high def release until 2012.

And we'll probably see the OOT in HD on the twelfth of never.

Well thats kind of a different situation in that there was no such thing as home video before that period. A lot of movies didn't see video release until the same time. A better indicator is DVD--the format was released in 1997, by 1999 it was clear that it was going to be a new format in a short while and in 2001 the first Star Wars film was released (the OT was held off until later not due to market reasons but because it was felt that it should only be released once the saga was complete--but these plans dried up when VHS went the way of the dodo around 2003). So based on that 1997>2001=4 years, which translates to 2006>2010, but given how different the home video market has changed since 2001 and given that all six films are already available in HD on television, I wouldn't be surprised if it came out a year or two earlier. But this would be the SE of course. Given the previous discussion here of the saga boxset being simul-released in HD that times out pretty good--although I am suspicious of 2008, given that its "The Year of Indiana Jones."


Since the market is over-saturated, it would make sense to do nothing this year, but it is the 30th anniversary, and they would need something to milk...
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#294154
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I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294154/action/topic#294154
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I would...but only if I could get the OOT with it. I would by the HD remastered OOT with SEs. I will but it with the PT. It would but it in a boxed set. I would but it in a tin. I will buy it with a fox. I will buy it in a box. I will buy it here or there. I will buy it anywhere. If the OOT were to come out, properly restored, I'd pretty much pay any price.
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#294054
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2007 Star Wars DVD Collection Release
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294054/action/topic#294054
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
The flick is GL's..... sure alot of people made fantastic contributions, but they knew going in that GL has the final call. They especially knew that working on Empire on through the PT. Sure his call's aren't always good ones, but it's his flick... now go zoom in on your non anamorphic OOT discs.


Yes, as I've said in over 1,000 posts, I agree that he owns the rights. But...where's the anamorphic OOT? Oh, that's right, there isn't one. That's the whole crux of the problem. If there was, we wouldn't need to be having this discussion. If there was, everybody would be happy and we wouldn't have this problem. There's not. We do. And until the problem is solved, there will be controversy and criticism. The movie's his. I'm well aware of that. But that doesn't mean that no one else is allowed to criticise and that they have to like it. He created this problem for himself. He can fix it. And I don't own the non-amamorphic OOT discs. I said that I wouldn't but them and I didn't. And with the exception of Indy IV, I'm done. Until I see the restored OOT Lucas isn't getting a penny for any Star Wars action figures, DVDs, HD releases,magazines, toys, Direct Downloads, home video releases, theatrical releases, graphic novels, CDs, music releases, video games, novels, comic-books, T.V. shows, or anything else.
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#294045
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One more you lose George....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294045/action/topic#294045
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Originally posted by: KurtFF8
Originally posted by: darkhelmet
Cool. Maybe Spielberg can talk some sense into Lucas while shooting Indy 4.


Maybe when Lucas wore that shirt (as reveled by that first video) prompted the two to have a conversation about that (if they didn't already which I'm sure they have), but with Spielberg doing this, maybe he will have a different point of view.


I doubt it, but I hope so.
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#294043
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2007 Star Wars DVD Collection Release
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294043/action/topic#294043
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I never said it didn't make the film "his" (Why don't we ask Richard Marquand, Kershner, Kurtz, and the thousands of talented artists and craftsman whose work "no longer exists" what they think of that). But I think with the OOT properly restored, the problem could be solved. I really don't care how he changes things, but I want the OOT remastered and so do many others. Releasing it could make the entire point of this moot. It's really very, very simple.
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#294041
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2007 Star Wars DVD Collection Release
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294041/action/topic#294041
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: vbangle
Listen up Kurt, Star Wars might "his film" but its was "my money" that helped make it a classic and GL a gazillionaire....so enough about them being "his films"....without the fans he would of turned out to be just another has been in Hollywood long ago....


Oh the ol' "My Money My Film" line! Well played!


It doesn't make it our film, but I think you're missing what people are saying; without the money from the fans, Star Wars wouldn't be a franchise of anything else; it'd be one film rotting on a shelf somewhere. So, in a sense, the fans are the funding for almost all of the releases since 77. So if it hadn't been for OUR money, Lucas would be ABLE to alter "HIS" film. Does that make it our film? Hell no. I think the fans have a legitimate complaint though. Think of it this way: what if Michael Curtiz were still alive and said that a colorized Casablanca with with CG additions was his only vision, and refused to release the original version. The original version does not "belong" to the millions of filmgoes who've seen Casablanca over the years, but I think that they would be within their rights to want it to get a release that it deserved. There's a very, very simple solution here: give the OOT a high-quality release. That's it. That would solve ALL of the problems. ALL of them. I'd watch the version I want in anamorphic HD (as long as other formats got the release down the road), and Lucas could to whatever the hell else he wanted and everyone would be happy. But he won't. All that people want is a high-quality release of the OOT. That doesn't make it our film. That doesn't mean that anyone is denying George "his" vision. We just want to watch the original versions in a release that meets the standards of the formats today. That's all. THAT is why the this is all still going on. It's not OUR film. I have never claimed it to be. But with a simple release of the original version in high quality, the whole problem could be solved. Why is that so hard to understand?
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#294038
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I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294038/action/topic#294038
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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
It's just tough to get a read on Lucasfilm, and if they are really being diabolically calculating about all this, or just lame. The "we only present George's vision" thing seemed absolute for awhile, and was understandable, if frustrating. But now, they ARE available everywhere, and in the most unflattering presentation possible at that. So all that went out the window.
It WOULD be so simple to put individual BluRay versions out now, acknowlegde that the original versions are now a separate thing and then be done with them forever. They would just be three more basic Bluray discs of 80s movies, sitting next to Dune and Lethal Weapon in the store. Why does everything have to be such a fucking "event"? (And then "ultimate Saga sets" starting in 09 for the rest of time). Just have your cake an eat it too, LFL!


See, that's where this whole thing becomes a clusterfuck, pardon my language. It was George's vision and he wasn't going to yield. That sucked, but he did stand by it...for about three years. Now they exist, but "it will all come out in the end." Of course, there's now the unfortunately probably correct conspiracy theory about this being done to justify not ever releasing them again. Yet, simultaneously, LFL know that the OOT DID sell, and if it wasn't as well as they wanted it to, they also know why, even if they won't admit it. As I've said again and again, the whole situation is now totally fucked up because LFL could release a high-priced boxed-set and get a lot of money and know that money can come from the OOT, but also want to bury. The whole thing is just screwed up in the extreme and makes no sense whatsoever.
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#293618
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2007 Star Wars DVD Collection Release
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/293618/action/topic#293618
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Originally posted by: KurtFF8
Originally posted by: zombie84:Uh, do you really think that its just completely random? That Lucas just happens to have a Han Shot First T-shirt that he just threw on? Get a freaking clue dude. He was trying to be clever but it just shows how removed from reality he is.




How does that make him removed from reality? He clearly wanted Greedo to shoot first in the SEs, they are his films and he knows what he wants from them. He doesn't simply change his films to meet the fans desires, but as he has stated, they are his films and his vision to make how he wants.


Although I happen to agree that that particular edit was a poor choice and should be reversed in the next SE, and I hope he has changed his mind about that scene. But that doesn't mean that if the Greedo shooting first edit is in the final edit that I will hate GL for it and think that he is an asshole, as it is his film that I'm a fan of, not a community project.


Fine. He can do whatever he wants to "his" films. I could really care less. All that I want is a crisp, high quality release of the original versions. That's it. The end. He can do whatever he pleases, I'll watch the version I want, and everyone will be happy. But of course, he won't do that. That's the problem.