Mike O

Hey, as long as the mono is there. It is on the BR right?

I mean I wouldn't mind hearing the remix on a killer sound system, it might be fun. But to me it'd be a curio, as if I had the choice (which unlike Lucas, this gives me), I'll watch the original. 

Hoth-Nudist said:

Watched Close Encounters and JAWS blurays today and LOVED them!  Couldnt believe the picture clarity of JAWS!

Attn George Luca$:  Please loosen up your collar, thus restoring normal blood flow to your brain, and make the OOT into Bluray already!

There's a better chance of Richard Dawkins converting to Christianity, sadly. 

I'd rather watch Jaws with the original mono track. Maybe if I had a killer sound system, the remix would be fun though. 

I aspire to one day be one of those people who's name is buried in the credits, the least they could do is show them all.

She's clearly playing on the Big Bang fame.

captainsolo said:

You're right, they really have no clue-on both sides of the camera. People cannot think for themselves these days. Just look at poor Christopher Lee and the sheer amount of terrible films he's been in over the years. Yet, even in the worst of them, even being overdubbed by someone else, he maintains such a regal and fascinating presence that it works. Always. If AOTC had simply stopped it's story right at Dooku first confronting Obi-Wan and continued seriously from that point, it would have been saved on every level. Or following Dooku leading his Separatist movement while actually going into the political reasons behind their breakaway...but oh wait that requires actual thought and drama.

You have to remember, actors have to eat. Ideally, once they got a starring role in something interesting, they could continue in that vein, but of course that have to take whatever they can get as long as they're marketable. It's a job like anything else. It's a different job than what you and I have, but they still have to eat.

SilverWook said:

The sad part is '97 Jabba looks more like this fellow than the original Jedi puppet. ;)

What is God's name is that!?

Jetrell Fo said:

Mike O said:

Apparently, it's still a pretty big hit at cons: penthousemagazine.com/features/geek-love/

I got a real kick out of that article.....they really do know how to have a good time at those conventions......  :)

It surprised the hell out of me, I'd never heard such tales...

Fang Zei said:

Hell, even George himself said this time around that "it would be too expensive" to properly restore and remaster the OOT. I think he knows the excuse that the originals "don't exist anymore" died the moment he put out the GOUT. Not that "it's expensive" is any kind of excuse either, but at least he's not kidding us anymore: it's about money.

What always bugged me about the GOUT was how half-assed it was. If the answer is no, the OOT is never coming out again, then stick to your guns. If the OOT had never been released since 1995, I certainly wouldn't like it, but at least Lucas would have stuck to his principles. Now he just looks like a fool.

I've always maintained that what they should do is release the OOT in a big giant box, fuck you fanboy, you have to buy the SE and the PT too. There is NO PRICE I WILL NOT PAY if the OOT comes out CORRECTLY, remastered and restored properly. But Star Wars isn't a cult property, it's as mainstream as possible, and I reiterate my previous statement that most people will just buy whatever has the brand name on it. The minority don't matter, and clearly Star Wars still clicks with kids, the video games and toys still sell like crazy and they show no signs of slowing down. And unless there's something to put a big enough dent in Star Wars profits to make them think about releasing the OOT, I don't see it happening. And there isn't. I always hoped for a grassroots movement from social media or the idea of that ad in the magazines, but it's all for naught, we're just a drop of water in the ocean.

zombie84 said:

No one except a small band of teenagers and clueless fanboys would say they wouldn't prefer the originals exist.

Doubt most people care.

Wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which fills up faster, as they say...

walking_carpet said:

Will it turn the tide? not sure.  With the clone wars and other things, bouncy lightsaber yoda is becoming more and more the definitive image.  But I can gaurantee demand for de-specialized editions will skyrocket even more than last year.

Um, what makes you think that? I think that the massive,  record-breaking sales of the Blu-Ray indicate more than ever that the average person in the mainstream doesn't give two shits.

Apparently, it's still a pretty big hit at cons: penthousemagazine.com/features/geek-love/

none said:

TV's Frink wrote:  there was no internet in the late 70's or early 80's.

Here are some posts to usenet from May 1981 about 'Star Wars'

http://groups.google.com/groups/search?safe=off&q=%22star+wars%22&btnG=Search&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=1981&as_drrb=b&sitesearch=

back then a well worded letter to the editor of a sci-fi publication or film magazine was just as powerful as today's internet postings.

We have no power whatsoever, as evidenced by the fact that we're still using this forum and this petition after all of these years. Few mainstream media outlets or people know about us, and fewer still actually care.

Yes, but who says there weren't complaints? You can easily compare it with American Graffiti which also got an updated title sequence in '98. There are fans who don't like it but most people don't care or first take notice when they suddenly see a big walking dinosaur in front of the camera. These minor alterations have a better chance to succeed with going unnoticed by the large crowd, you can still to this day hear people that are confused by or unsure if Star Wars had a title number in its crawl back in '77.

These are so minor the average person probably won't notice them. I don't LIKE them, I wish the wouldn't happen, but they're different than the exensive changes made to Star Wars or THX. Like I tell people who think I'm just fixated on nostalgia for what they see as inferior versions, there's a major issue of film preservation here.

Baronlando said:

Most of it could still be used but some of the shots would have to come from other sources, which is not uncommon in restoration. (Or they could ignore the negative and use something else, like the Blade Runner '82 blu-ray)

I find it very difficult to believe that THX COULDN'T do a proper restoration, it's a question of the cost and Lucas' willingness. I also find it pretty difficult to believe that there isn't a usable negative that could be used to restore it SOMEWHERE. Still, we're tilting at windmills, in any case, since it's never happening. I am sort of surprised they didn't do something for the 35th anniversary this year, just like they didn't for the 30th. What did they do for Blade Runner? An example, incidentally, of how Star Wars should've been handled, but that's beside the point.

There was apparently some thought of putting an ad for OT.com and our cause in some press magazine like Wired, Sound and Vision, Empire or particularly Variety, etc., but apparently the price is more than a little ridiculous and we'd all have to kick in more than would be worthwhile for something that likely won't work anyway.

So basically, even if Lucas suddenly went insane and did want to restore the OOT, the negatives don't exist for it to happen?

walking_carpet said:

Mike O said:

.....

 Move along.

 These are not the LFL change in directions we were looking for????

What we're looking for is a pipe-dream, there's a better chance of Richard Dawkins converting to Christianity than of the OOT ever getting properly restored.

This probably doesn't mean much, I'm sure Lucas has some sort of contractual way of ensure we'll never see the OOT again. Lucasfilm doesn't really do much outside of marketing stuff out or putting their logo on things anyway since the PT ended. I'm not going to get too excited, it'll probably be business as usual. Move along.

I'll join the chorus of cynicism that Star Wars isn't around for it's own anniversary. Sigh. 

Lucas has given away tons of his money through philanthropy and has obviously brought joy into the hearts of many. Much as I have decidedly harsh feelings towards him for his attitude about a work of fiction, there's no denying he's done a ton of great things on a personal level. Kudos to him for giving to those in need. He deserves the credit, and that's a great thing.

Al May 4th ever reminds me of is the crushing disappointment after the soaring happiness I heard about the OOT that turned out to be the GOUT.

At least the originals haven't gone anywhere. That's more than can be said for Star Wars, forever gone and debased.

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

PSYCHO_DAYV said:

WHAT IS BEING DONE TO THIS THREAD!?

It's, like, totally evolving, man.

 

What's your avatar from?

Obviously, I am none too pleased with this kind of thing, but to be fair, changes like this are probably like the ones in Raiders. They're so small that 99.9% of the population probably wouldn't notice them.