Mike O

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TV's Frink wrote:  there was no internet in the late 70's or early 80's.

Here are some posts to usenet from May 1981 about 'Star Wars'

http://groups.google.com/groups/search?safe=off&q=%22star+wars%22&btnG=Search&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=1981&as_drrb=b&sitesearch=

back then a well worded letter to the editor of a sci-fi publication or film magazine was just as powerful as today's internet postings.

We have no power whatsoever, as evidenced by the fact that we're still using this forum and this petition after all of these years. Few mainstream media outlets or people know about us, and fewer still actually care.

Yes, but who says there weren't complaints? You can easily compare it with American Graffiti which also got an updated title sequence in '98. There are fans who don't like it but most people don't care or first take notice when they suddenly see a big walking dinosaur in front of the camera. These minor alterations have a better chance to succeed with going unnoticed by the large crowd, you can still to this day hear people that are confused by or unsure if Star Wars had a title number in its crawl back in '77.

These are so minor the average person probably won't notice them. I don't LIKE them, I wish the wouldn't happen, but they're different than the exensive changes made to Star Wars or THX. Like I tell people who think I'm just fixated on nostalgia for what they see as inferior versions, there's a major issue of film preservation here.

Baronlando said:

Most of it could still be used but some of the shots would have to come from other sources, which is not uncommon in restoration. (Or they could ignore the negative and use something else, like the Blade Runner '82 blu-ray)

I find it very difficult to believe that THX COULDN'T do a proper restoration, it's a question of the cost and Lucas' willingness. I also find it pretty difficult to believe that there isn't a usable negative that could be used to restore it SOMEWHERE. Still, we're tilting at windmills, in any case, since it's never happening. I am sort of surprised they didn't do something for the 35th anniversary this year, just like they didn't for the 30th. What did they do for Blade Runner? An example, incidentally, of how Star Wars should've been handled, but that's beside the point.

There was apparently some thought of putting an ad for OT.com and our cause in some press magazine like Wired, Sound and Vision, Empire or particularly Variety, etc., but apparently the price is more than a little ridiculous and we'd all have to kick in more than would be worthwhile for something that likely won't work anyway.

So basically, even if Lucas suddenly went insane and did want to restore the OOT, the negatives don't exist for it to happen?

walking_carpet said:

Mike O said:

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 Move along.

 These are not the LFL change in directions we were looking for????

What we're looking for is a pipe-dream, there's a better chance of Richard Dawkins converting to Christianity than of the OOT ever getting properly restored.

This probably doesn't mean much, I'm sure Lucas has some sort of contractual way of ensure we'll never see the OOT again. Lucasfilm doesn't really do much outside of marketing stuff out or putting their logo on things anyway since the PT ended. I'm not going to get too excited, it'll probably be business as usual. Move along.

I'll join the chorus of cynicism that Star Wars isn't around for it's own anniversary. Sigh. 

Lucas has given away tons of his money through philanthropy and has obviously brought joy into the hearts of many. Much as I have decidedly harsh feelings towards him for his attitude about a work of fiction, there's no denying he's done a ton of great things on a personal level. Kudos to him for giving to those in need. He deserves the credit, and that's a great thing.

Al May 4th ever reminds me of is the crushing disappointment after the soaring happiness I heard about the OOT that turned out to be the GOUT.

At least the originals haven't gone anywhere. That's more than can be said for Star Wars, forever gone and debased.

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

PSYCHO_DAYV said:

WHAT IS BEING DONE TO THIS THREAD!?

It's, like, totally evolving, man.

 

What's your avatar from?

Obviously, I am none too pleased with this kind of thing, but to be fair, changes like this are probably like the ones in Raiders. They're so small that 99.9% of the population probably wouldn't notice them.

It's terrifying how much time you can waste listening to these things :p!

Anyway, listen to Kermode and Mayo and Elvis Mitchell's The Treatment and iFanboy.

Stephen King's The Stand, Marc Andreyko and Brian Michael Bendis' Torso, Arthur Conan Doyle's The Valley of Fear, and if the damn audiobook comes, The Hunger Games.

AuggieBenDoggie said:

 

Middle of the day on a Friday, so barely anyone attending or running the theater. This time I know the movie is academy going in. I get there during the trailers, and oh man, I immediately know something is wrong. It's the trailer for Drive and the light is spilling onto the top and bottom black curtains which are still set up for scope. I've learned from experience that if something is wrong during the trailers, it's gonna be wrong during the movie. I run out and tell a guy about how they gotta open up the screen in auditorium 7. The guy says "ok," gets out his walkie-talkie and I run back. By the time the movie starts, they still haven't fixed the problem. I run back out to tell the guy again. He gives this frustrated look as he reaches for the walkie-talkie, a look that says "I told them to fix it."

 

Sounds like they had a newbie up in booth that didn't know how to change over the masking. My main complaint with AMC is with the shutter ghosting during the 35mm presentations. I also have big issues with their IMAX presentations regarding the shrill sound at insane levels. I will never watch IMAX at AMC again.

 

Perhaps I'm simply not observant, but I haven't had much trouble with my local AMC theater. The IMAX sound is loud, but I always figured that was just because it was IMAX sound.

It finally works, presumably YouTube themselves fixed it.

I have an iPhone 4S. The app itself doesn't let you do certain things the mobile site does, so I like to use both. It used to work fine, then one day, it didn't work fine. It's....irritating...

...is currently driving me crazy. I tend use their mobile site because for some reason, my YouTube app that comes with my iPhone doesn't load anywhere near as quickly, doesn't let me respond directly to comments, and is generally annoying and poorly designed. Their mobile site, for some reason, is being irritating and isn't letting me load my playlists. It'll show the first set of videos, and when I click "more," it just flashes and shows the same videos again. Peculiarly, it DOES let me see my favorites and cycles through them. Is this just foul-up on YouTube's part that I really can't do anything about and will just have to wait for them to fix, or am I doing something wrong?

So the hope for that was dashed too, huh? Lucas probably really has destroyed every print and there really isn't any way to restore the OOT...

SilverWook said:

CN doesn't hesitate much in killing off shows that don't pull in the numbers, or sell enough toys.

My guess would be this does plenty of both.

I hear that the TCW TV series is doing gangbusters anyway.

Mielr said:

 

DavidBrennan said:

Any people with distaste for the current state of the SW "brand" or LFL in general feel any vindication by the floppage of TPM 3D?

I do. And even if it ends up making a profit, I'll still consider it a "flop" because the standards have been set higher by the franchise, tarnished or not.

As far as the marketing goes, I must be watching the wrong channels because I think I saw a total of ONE tv commercial for TPM3D and only one or two posters at bus stops. :-?

 

Being a year behind on my Wittertainment and hearing Mark pontificate about the "death of the 3-D," the vindictive bastard in me is hoping that the fad will be in its death throes by the end of the AOTC relelease and LFL won't get to the OT and will lose big time. But the realist in me knows that the OT will do gangbusters in the theaters, even with the Amazon backlash and people knowing full well it's not the original film, and will just be another nail in the OOT's coffin.

David Filoni was a director the animated series Avatar: The Last Airbender, which was an excellent TV series which did the kind of fantasy stuff that Lucas used to do very well. I'd love to believe that the Star Wars brand is diluting and that TPM 3-D didn't do very well, but it just feels too much like wishful thinking to me.

1anakin said:

'Star Wars: Phantom Menace' Crosses $1 Billion Mark at Box Office

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/star-wars-episode-i-phantom-menace-box-office-294680

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

Don't hate the messenger. 

Just another nail in the coffin. RIP OOT.

Look, this forum is NOT condusive to use on a mobile phone, I have to do the best I can with what I have!