Hey Harmy! Glad to see you back! Cant wait to see what you have in store for the 3.0 versions.
I must be the only one who liked the Casino scene. It sets up some galaxy world building, (perhaps) sets up a plot point for the next film, provides some relief from an otherwise downer of a film and reinforces the film’s overall theme of failure and learning from your mistakes.
On another note: I do wonder if scenes of Leia shot for this film won’t be used/reworked for the next one. They might have to be clever with what they have but it could be doable.
This entire time I’ve remained completely spoiler free and literally one day before I go to see it some asshole I’m friends with posts a meme that jokingly includes a huge spoiler and it’s true. I’m fucking pissed and I unfriended him over it.
That sucks man. 😦
I have a much more positive opinion of this film now that I’ve had a few days to reflect.
In essence, this film tells a very dour story: the First Order have caught up with the Rebellion that is on the run and alone after the destruction of the Republic, and they are slowly picked off one by one. What started with a whole base at the beginning, is just a handful of people that can fit in the Millennium Falcon by the end.
Another downer: people are making decisions that they think are the right ones, but they turn out to be completely wrong:
However, despite all of these terrible decisions comes a spark of hope:
TL;DR: it’s good.
One can actually survive being in space for a very short period of time. It’s not the bloody explosion that’s been glorified in other sci fi films.
A great film but definitely one that makes you go…huh. Ok. Wow. Gee. What??
…‘but’?
There are perhaps certain ‘buts’… however it’s difficult to discuss these in this thread.
I do feel this film will be controversial among fans and history will decide where it stands amongst the other films.
A simple yes or no to this as this is a NON SPOILER thread.
I’ve willingly chosen not to know anything about the film from the trailers, ads, clips, articles etc. since it was first announced and will be spoil-free about the plot until tomorrow.
Is TLJ worth it to be seen in IMAX(3D)?
I saw it in Dolby Cinema. I enjoyed the quality that’s for sure! But with any good movie, you stop looking at pixel counts and contrast and 3d and you just let yourself get sucked in.
Just saw it. I’m with other people when they say that a second viewing is required.
I do love, however, how they really mess with your expectations.
Just got back from a showing.
Everything I expected was wrong. There’s a crapton to process.
A great film but definitely one that makes you go…huh. Ok. Wow. Gee. What??
WHAT AN ENTRY!!!
Working on a cinema here in Norway, I had the privilege to watch TAL. Get your saber ready for tomorrow!!!
The emotions, the feelings - the battles! I HATED TFA. I really did. I hate it still. I liked Rogue One because if it 30 minute ending and K2 droid.
This movie, however… wow! I love it! No spoiler, but this is literally what EPISODE II and III should have been (pacing and battles and banter!). WHAT A MOVIE!
Thanks for your impressions! This is what I keep hearing from all over the internet, so I’m getting more excited for tomorrow!
Tv shows are still being shot on tape, only now in HD. Some 70’s sitcoms shot on tape look really bad now for some reason, especially Norman Lear productions. Maybe the video masters on those need restoration?
On the flip side the first two seasons of Saturday Night Live look great for their age. I’ve only seen one video glitch so far, and I’m not sure it would even have been visible on a CRT. You can tell NBC didn’t allocate their best cameras to the show early on though. It’s a shame they didn’t remaster the film inserts because the telecine they had at the time was pretty awful. (I could get better results shooting a projector aimed at a blank wall.) Whether that footage still exists is anyone’s guess.
It’s a shame a lot of Universal’s 60’s/70’s tv output shot on 35mm hasn’t been remastered. Some of what I see airing on Cozi TV are from really old broadcast video masters.
The company I work for is quoting on a lot of 70s sitcoms at the moment for restoration.
I’ve been looking at a bunch of master tapes of 70s shows over the last few months, and there is a rather awful historical footnote.
The ‘white’ sitcoms were shot on film, and occasionally in the highest tech tape based system of the day, the ‘black’ sitcoms at the same companies were shot on tape, with lower quality gear.
Make of that what you will, but it is why some US 70s tv shows look a lot better than others. Restoring the tape based ones is very hard to get looking good in hidef, but it is being done right now.
Interesting! While I see old shows like A-Team, Knight Rider etc being trivial to convert because they look as though they actually have a cut negative for each episode… how would one convert an old TV show shot on video?
Interlace? De interlace? Heavy sharpening? What would one do for glitches? I can imagine the headaches the conversion could cause for those working on them.
I remember reading a review for the Twilight Zone BD set and they mentioned that those episodes were presented in 1080i.
So initial reviewers aren’t spoiling anything, but the majority of them seem to be really positive. I am now going to avoid looking at anything related to the film until Wednesday. (Yay Europe!)
Didn’t he say that if the forum went down that that would be a sign of good news?
I don’t know how I’m just now noticing all these things, but it looks like there are still some artifacts of optical compositing (or shitty rotoscoping) left in the SE:
JEDIT 2: Fixed it.
That’s normal motion pucture blur and digital rotoscoping (if it were optical compositing, we’d see a black outline around the legs).
The problem with this part of the shot is that you have two overlapping objects that are in motion with film that is moving at 1/48th of a second. Anyone who’s shot a camera in manual mode knows that things get blurry pretty easily under 1/60th of a second.
In this shot you have the camera panning and following the speeder going right and crisscrossing the man who is walking left. With these two opposite motions, you’re going to get some weird artifacts.
Concerning the legs: because of the blur, there is no hard outline separating the two objects, and it’s difficult to cleanly create a matte for the shadow and erased wheels.
Yeah, so far this print looks softer than the IB, but some scenes are more ‘clear’ due to better composites, like the sabre training scene.
Of course; that is to be expected since all of the special-effects shots were recomposited digitally.
There is a certain level of detail naturally present in the SE prints that I just can’t find in some of the greatest of IB tech scans. I wouldn’t mind a ‘Cinema Despecialized’ edition that uses mostly SE 35mm footage, plugging in 77 35mm footage whenever necessary. Or if some technical genius could digitally average the two together, that would be fantastic.
That’s an interesting opinion because all the Tech prints I’ve seen have been relatively sharp and this SE print looks quite grainy and soft. Do you have any side by side examples that led you to this opinion?
Help Me Zombie-Wan_Kenobi, your our only hope…
Best caption competition for this image is now open…
“And blood-black nothingness began to spin… A system of cells interlinked within cells interlinked within cells interlinked within one stem… And dreadfully distinct against the dark, a tall white fountain played. Cells.”
“Cells.”
“Have you ever been in an institution? Cells.”
“Cells.”
“Do they keep you in a cell? Cells.”
“Cells.”
“When you’re not performing your duties do they keep you in a little box? Cells.”
“Cells.”
Ah yes, I didn’t think about the Disney films. Indeed, OBWAT is not the first DI.
There was also the Gone With the Wind restoration from the early 90s. That was completely digitized.
I am pretty sure that the first film to ever do a complete DI is O Brother Where Art Thou?.
I cannot imagine them doing this in 96-97. My money is on no.
This thread needs to die already.
Wouldn’t it be 2.66:1, though?
And the Dolby Stereo box shows a monaural schematic.
Yup. 1.33 x 2 is 2.66
Seeing as at least one of the edits out there included the blu-ray footage of the cartoon, has any one considered editing the footage of the ships in the Holiday Special?
I personally think it’d be too jarring. But if that’s something you’d like to see, go right ahead! There’s other footage as well: Vader walking down the corridors for example.
I asked for the lossless files a while back but it might have gotten lost in the discussion.
In any case I’m still open to doing the sync!
I would prefer if the Italian track didn’t come out in high quality until Poita’s project is done as it would devalue any attempt to resell the print to fund more projects. Because you can be sure that it’s gonna end up being shared on pirate websites.
Hmmm, I personally don’t see the issue here. First of all, the quality isn’t that great (35mm optical, pop, hiss, gaps of silence because of missing frames). Second, it’s the same dub as the TV cut that was discovered a while ago and I would think the same dub as any other Italian home version. That cat is out of the bag. Third, the optical sound quality on all film prints are crap. That doesn’t seem to affect their value in any way.
Actually I do have it! Someone else had asked for it a while ago and it was really easy to export from the original iMovie file.
Shooting you a PM.
I forget where does the Italian track that you have comes from
It’s from Poita’s Italian version scan - the one this version is built from. My grindhouse version is synced to the Laserdisc cut so the shot order isn’t the same.
Making this Italian track was very simple: I just muted the English audio track and unmuted the Italian sound. Export Audio -> Save.
