Mavimao

Just saw this and came straight here. Cool!

DrDre said:

Mavimao said:

Williarob said:

Mavimao said:

If I’m not mistaken, if the Bluray were GOUT synced, one could apply these colors easily, right?

No, it’s not a matter of being sync’d. The GOUT appears to have had a single color correction applied to it, which allows us to apply a single LUT to correct the whole film. For example, if the GOUT is 10 points too red, it is 10 points too red on every frame, therefore we can apply a universal correction to reduce the red by 10 points and the whole film will look better.

On the blu-ray, the colors are all over the place, so this sort of universal correction will only improve some of the shots, while making others look worse. While the whole blu-ray can be greatly improved with a single LUT (as JawsTDS proves here http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1042832, it would not be possible to match the colors of all the shots in a single pass).

No, I get that. What I’m saying is that I thought that Dr Dre was going to do a one pass LUT with the GOUT and THEN export a shot by shot LUT. With this shot by shot LUT, you can take any GOUT synced video file and have it come out like the technicolor.

Yes, that would certainly be possible, but you would also have to contend with many of the color issues (missing gradients, and is some cases missing colors), that NeverarGreat has tackled for his bluray regrade.

Right, gotcha. So your shot by shot LUT would work best on neutral scans so to speak?

Williarob said:

Mavimao said:

If I’m not mistaken, if the Bluray were GOUT synced, one could apply these colors easily, right?

No, it’s not a matter of being sync’d. The GOUT appears to have had a single color correction applied to it, which allows us to apply a single LUT to correct the whole film. For example, if the GOUT is 10 points too red, it is 10 points too red on every frame, therefore we can apply a universal correction to reduce the red by 10 points and the whole film will look better.

On the blu-ray, the colors are all over the place, so this sort of universal correction will only improve some of the shots, while making others look worse. While the whole blu-ray can be greatly improved with a single LUT (as JawsTDS proves here http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1042832, it would not be possible to match the colors of all the shots in a single pass).

No, I get that. What I’m saying is that I thought that Dr Dre was going to do a one pass LUT with the GOUT and THEN export a shot by shot LUT. With this shot by shot LUT, you can take any GOUT synced video file and have it come out like the technicolor.

If I’m not mistaken, if the Bluray were GOUT synced, one could apply these colors easily, right?

Man I rememeber watching the downloaded trailer on my bestfriend’s blue G3 Powermac who had highspeed cable internet (man that shit was like lightening after dealing with dial up previously).

We were so fucking hyped. We were like 15 and 16 and big StarWars fans so we couldn’t believe this was happening.

I managed to procure the single of Dual of the Fates and listened to it on repeat. I read all the magazines I could on the production. This film could do no wrong.

Now I was living in France at this time and it didn’t come out until October which was excruciating. When we began to hear reports Stateside that the film was not good, we totally blew them off. They did not “understand” Star Wars.

I finally saw it on a matinee showing on opening day and my initial reaction was one of excitement. “This movie is so awesome!”

I later went to rewatch it a couple weeks later, but I remember feeling bored and wishing I had gone to see something else.

I just updated the OP to say that I won’t be giving out links anymore. You’ll find it at a certain site of human anatomy.

Great work Dr Dre! These are looking very nice!

This new discovery about the GOUT is certainly helpful

Of course, the 70mm scan is not authoritative and would never ask you to waste time matching it.

I think the bootleg is another piece of evidence that helps us get closer to what this film looked like. It was an eye opener to see how similar it was to the projected IB print and the EditDroid. That tells us that we’re getting closer.

More than likely the 1978 cut.

Those two versions or mine are about the only versions really available.

@thesearentthedroids: thank you for the kind words. Poita is working on a restoration of the print my version is based on and Harmy has expressed interest in creating a high quality Despecialized version using a variety of available sources, but whenever that happens… who knows.

So I have a question: I have been receiving requests for links which on one hand is great that people are interested, but is there anyway someone can put it on myspleen or something? I wasn’t expecting this to be so popular and I do wish to avoid being personally linked to copies of the film.

To be honest Dr Dre it looks like you’re trying to give it a modern grade here. It’s crushed, dark and contrasty and the red in his face looks too red.

The 70mm scan just above, although not perfect, looks much more like a film of the era.

Good luck for the shootout in the detention area 😛

Really great work DrDre! When/if you see this projected print, will you be taking stills/video, or both?

THX11384EB said:

Class316 said:

But is there a version that basically does the exact same thing as that 1971 restoration but restores the 1978 version as opposed to the 1971 release?

From what I remember, and what was established here in a few posts, the 1971 release is the same as the 1978 re-release. Am I mistaken?

No, they are slightly different: in the middle, the trial scenes are rearranged and there is an extended scene with SEN talking to the young boys… but that’s it.

Nothing like the “scandal” that George Lucas has alluded to in interviews.

I like it! I just hope they dont kill off Luke.

I always assumed it was Rey who triggers R2’s wake.

Here’s another plothole for episode 4: if Leia knew they had a tracking device on the Millenium Falcon, why did they go straight to the rebel base? Why not go to some moon, rendez vous with some rebels and use the MF as a lure later on.

I always saw the First Order as an ISIS type group that is able to take up arms and take over a small part of the world/galaxy through fanaticism. Obviously, they don’t have the ressources to take over the whole galaxy, but they are a worry since they have weapons and followers and can grow.

The Resistance is more like a special/black ops group that do a lot of the dirtier work that an official army would not do.

Back to my ISIS comparison, I guess the Starkiller Base is akin to ISIS developing a nuclear bomb and blowing up Washington. My one problem with TFA is the fact that they have a HUGE planet sized planet killer. I would have liked to have seen something smaller and more crude. I don’t think it even has to blow up the planets into pieces, maybe it just kills all carbon life forms, like a gas or the Genesis device from ST.

Who knows, I don’t know. I just feel the StarKiller is the main drag of TFA, a movie I love otherwise. It’s a silly overused Macguffin.

The OCN is composed of the camera negative (baring effects shots).

For what it’s worth: the next day after seeing RO with my wife and step father, ANH was on the television and my wife looked at me and said, “how the hell was this guy in two different films 40 years apart??” After explaining that the Tarkin in RO was CGI, she expressed amazement because she had no idea it was artificial.

The prequels for one. Great soundtracks. But mediocre films.

Tron Legacy…

Bobo Jameson said:

Mavimao said:

Bobo Jameson said:

Alderaan said:

When did Lord Haseo jump the shark? I mean his views on the movies were always bad, but I remember him at least being pleasant about it. Now every post is **** this and you’re an ass that. Try being more civil and don’t take it so personal when people have different taste than you.

Edit: well, I guess the post about wanting to see Vader kill Jedi shines a light on things. The dark side is strong in this one.

The reason that Lord Haseo called malastrana an ass is because malastrana keeps talking out of his ass! Why is it that people that rates Rogue One a 0 out of 10 is pampered on this lousy ass forum?!

It’s not called being pampered, it’s called being civil. We are allowed to agree/disagree, preferably explaining why we feel what we feel.

Being uncivil is resorting to childish acts like namecalling. We refrain from that here.

Calling someone an ass when they clearly were one isn’t childish, it’s warranted. Don’t bitch and whine when someone calls you out and have your mother change your diaper it’s beginning to stink around here.

No one’s asking for a warm bottle of milk, a burp and a cuddle. Even if Malastrana is a little excessive, you can call him out on his excessiveness, as Fink has done, but there’s no need to call him names.

And be careful, I don’t think you’re a bonefide troll but please read the rules before the ban hammer comes down.

Edit: ah looks like I spoke too soon.

I agree with you! But wifey likes the happy endings.

Just saw it for a second time and liked it better. There are a couple of things that still bother me (c3po/r2d2 cameo and that first appearence of Darth Vader in his castle) but it really is solid especially that final battle.

This time I went with my wife (not a Star Wars fan but loved TFA) and my step father (a lover of the original unaltered trilogy). They both liked it - my step father more than my wife who was mad that everyone died. In her words: “I was wanting them to screw at the end!”

Surprisingly, he didn’t realize that Peter Cushing was CGI. I was thinking, “Well how do you think they did it??”

Excellent news, Poita! Enjoy the holidays with your family!

I can definitely help with that having seen the film numerous times last year to find differences with this Italian print.