Lord Haseo

MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

MalàStrana said:
Oh dude, it was a joke, like the ones Frink and others are constantly making and you don’t seem to have anything to say against.

I have gotten on him about that in regards to Metal and him seemingly being opposed to people expressing their sexuality so you’re wrong about that one bud.

Ok, fine, I don’t read everything around. There still is quite a difference between being slightly sarcastic and calling someone an “ass”, don’t you think ?

That’s a fair point and if I’m being honest there wasn’t that much scorn in that “ass”. It’s like when Archer’s mom calls him an ass most of the time but regardless of that I apologize. Now, I think it’d be better if we got back to talking about Star Wars.

MalàStrana said:
Oh dude, it was a joke, like the ones Frink and others are constantly making and you don’t seem to have anything to say against.

I have gotten on him about that in regards to Metal and him seemingly being opposed to people expressing their sexuality so you’re wrong about that one bud.

MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

MalàStrana said:

Tobar said:

ROTS literally has him slaughtering children but a hallway of soldiers is a step too far?

Oh yeah I forgot about that ! But we don’t see him doing that, and he’s the main character of the movie, not a random dude killing random extras. But I don’t like it either. If he really wanted the plans he could have got them with the Force. The scene is totally dumb.

He also had to defend himself

Great:

• Vader ! What have you done ?!?
• It was self-defense, sir. I had to defend myself !

I was talking about his use of blast deflection but whatever.

By the way Haseo: play nice and stop insulting people you don’t agree with, ok ?

You already know why I called you an ass so let’s not even.

Alderaan said:

When did Lord Haseo jump the shark? I mean his views on the movies were always bad, but I remember him at least being pleasant about it. Now every post is **** this and you’re an ass that. Try being more civil and don’t take it so personal when people have different taste than you.

It’s not the opinion; it’s the rationale. They’re complaining for the sake of complaining and I think that warrants some type of scorn. Also isn’t it hypocritical to say that whilst saying things like “I mean his views on the movies were always bad” in the same post? That’s real civil buddy.

EDIT:

I called Mala an ass because of his sarcastic response that wasn’t warranted in the first place. But fuck me right?

MalàStrana said:

Tobar said:

ROTS literally has him slaughtering children but a hallway of soldiers is a step too far?

Oh yeah I forgot about that ! But we don’t see him doing that, and he’s the main character of the movie, not a random dude killing random extras. But I don’t like it either. If he really wanted the plans he could have got them with the Force. The scene is totally dumb.

He also had to defend himself and if I recall the plans were in the other room by the time he Force Pulled the blasters away. Basically him trying to take the plans via the Force could have gotten him killed.

MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

All I’ve ever wanted in life is to see Vader kill some Jedi.

Watch ANH [SPOILER He kills Obi-Wan]

Besides him, ass. I meant I wanted to see him kill Jedi in the Great Jedi Purge

I want a Vader movie to pretty much fill the void in my heart the PT left in terms of Vader. All I’ve ever wanted in life is to see Vader kill some Jedi.

The plans…were LITERALLY in the hands of the Rebels. What the fuck don’t people understand about that? Also this isn’t the first time we’ve seen Vader be brutish. Why is it ok here for Vader to go all barbarian but not in some other film?

The ship Cassian and Jyn escaped in when Jedha was getting blown to shit.

Not 5 feet from them mind you; I mean like outside of his place.

Wasn’t the ship right there though?

I actually said “Oh no” out loud before she actually said it. I think had this been like 5-10 years in the future it would have been seamless. CGI Tarkin was right near the peak of the uncanny valley but he couldn’t come down the other side.

Even though I think it was premature to pullout the use CGI to bring back old characters thing, it does set an interesting precedent as this will be utilized quite a bit in the future. Maybe we could get ST prequel movies instead of novels. I sure hope not.

Though truly great ones will only come once in a while. Episode VIII seems like it’s shaping up to be one of those.

cybr1d said:
-I think they said “hope” too much. Probably just me.

You are not alone on that one. One line that emphasized “hope” would have been perfect but they chose to run it into the ground. Preferably I would keep the “Rebellions are built on hope” line and scrap CGI Leia and the “Hope” line by proxy and it’s be perfect.

-After Tarkin, CG Leia wasn’t so much of a surprise (the suprise was them ending on the Tantive IV), but she’s worth a mention, and again, I think she looked great.

You may be alone on this point though…actually I’d bet some PT fans would agree with you though.

And if anyone finds fault with that remind them of the quote in STAR WARS where Obi-Wan says The Force controls your actions and obeys your commands.

digitalfreaknyc said:

Lord Haseo said:

Telling them the story of SW and ESB progresses the plot in no way.

Are you so busy ranting that you’ve forgotten how to read? You just got your explanation. It absolutely does.

I have yet to be shown how story time progresses the plot or develops our characters.

hydrospanner said:

For a trained Jedi… sure. Look how Luke struggled with the remote with the blast shield down.

Eh. After being hit with it like once he was able to hit 3 bolts in a row.

Even with his inate force powers and first hand instruction from a Jedi it was a struggle to get a couple blocks in. Now compare that to seeing see Chirrut basically take out a squadron of stormtroopers on his own with nothing but a stick and then we also see him shoot down a TIE Fighter from the ground with one shot. Just seemed a little over the top to me.

I really don’t know Chirrut’s background but if he self trained himself for a decade or so that level of Force based physical augmentation is within reason. Now if he were using Force Speed like Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in TPM, doing giant force leaps like ROTS Anakin or literally ripping people to shreds like Darth Plagueis then I’d understand where you’re coming from.

Forced based physical augmentation is child’s play.

Telling them the story of SW and ESB progresses the plot in no way.

MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

MalàStrana said:

The ROTJ “storytelling scene” stays a very charming moment in the saga.

If by charming you really mean childish and stupid, then yes. It’s beyond cringeworthy.

Ok, you don’t like the scene, childish I can understand (SW is childish, even TESB and ROTS are), but expand on why this is stupid.

Besides the silly premise of C3P0 giving a campfire story to teddy bears it doesn’t push the plot forward in any way. Nor does it develop any of characters or gives us a sense of how they interact with each other. The only thing this scene does is trivialize the saga via childish framing (unlike good childish framing like in Stranger Things) and damage the film’s pacing.

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SW and ESB have their goofier moments but nothing like teddy bear story time. The Jawas are the silliest things in those two films and they use technology unlike the Ewoks so it’s easier to swallow.

MalàStrana said:

The ROTJ “storytelling scene” stays a very charming moment in the saga.

If by charming you really mean childish and stupid, then yes. It’s beyond cringeworthy.

Mithrandir said:

MalàStrana said:

Between Vader quietly walking in front of his men in TESB to get the Falcon and the one showing off his Force skills to kill a few random rebel extras, there is a gap. One is classy Darth Vader, while the other is Darth Jason Voorhees.

I agree. However, crashing a rebellion and capturing his son knowing he is alive and well can happen any day, while getting back the plans of the most important military development of your country when you know that there’s a mole in your ranks that probably has compromised the functionality of the weapon just needs some action to be taken.

I felt that Vader and Tarkin both acted recklessly just because the stakes were very very high, and that is something that explains and changes things in ANH in a better way. Exactly the same way you just do not think of Vader as such a random evil guy when you rewatch Empire knowing all he did was to find Luke.

People act as though just because Vader had disdain for the Death Star means he wouldn’t do anything necessary to get it back. Also it was literally in the hands of the Rebels. The time for some type of subtlety is over when you literally have no time left.

Why not both?

darthrush said:

Lord Haseo said:

NeverarGreat said:

People keep on bringing up the idea that the characters in Rogue One are worse than those of TFA, but I think that these movies present two very different ways to create a character. In the case of TFA, the characters for the most part are larger than life, all of them at least idealized, at most mythologized. Everything they do is part of a larger destiny, and they cannot die in vain. Even Han Solo’s death was played on a huge, dramatically lit stage surrounded by other figures of destiny who will surely avenge him.

Contrast this with the characters of Rogue One, who are often subdued, restrained, ordinary. They are not figures of destiny, and even the one who has genuinely magical powers is treated as no more important in the story than the grunts in the Rebellion. It is the story of everyday people coming together to achieve a goal that will be largely unsung in the annals of history and overshadowed by the achievements of Chosen Ones.

To say that one interpretation of character is better than another is to misunderstand how TFA and Rogue One are fundamentally different movies. One is about heroes of destiny, the other about people acting heroically.

I think even with the story and tone they had there still could have been more character development for the characters that were underdeveloped and character development period for characters who aren’t developed at all. TFA had more things to balance and still was able to pull off having most of our new characters be layered. Even if someone like Jyn just had more personality it would go along way.

I kinda agree with both of you guys to a certain extent. I do agree that the purpose of the characters for Rogue One was very much different from that of the Force Awakens. It is more about their actions. But one of my problems with Rogue One is precisely about a characters actions.

I think stronger characters would have made the strong character actions even stronger.

Jyn’s struggle against the Empire doesn’t feel earned at all because she didn’t care about the empire and then suddenly did in a couple minutes. Whereas in the Force Awakens we got completely fleshed out characters with believable arcs.

Compare that to Rey who both had a Rebellion Soldier doll in her room and showed an interest in the Resistance before she was dragged into the conflict and it makes perfect sense for her to fight against the First Order. Even taking that away her moral compass (which is something emphasized in the beginning) would lead one to believe that Rey would not agree with how The First Order operates. Rogue One needed something like this.

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

The preview of that Guardians of the Galaxy movie that I saw during the opening trailers at Rogue One made me feel the same way. Literally one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen in my life.

I thought you were going away again. What ever happened with that?

You continue to display your exemplary character.

Only for you baby 😉

But seriously though your anti everything but OT is very reminiscent of Impscum and I want you to cease posting so that he can mysteriously pop up again. Thus further confirming my suspicion that your an Impscum sock.