Lord Haseo

ThomasBolt said:

And Darth Vader's revel in STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE is not the climax. 

Climax

Noun- The most intense, exciting, or important point of something; a culmination or apex.

To me its the climax of the opening scene is it not? The definition didn't mention it had to be be at the end of a story.

ThomasBolt said:

I think you mean cinematic. But I see what you mean I'm still deciding what I'm going to do with Episode III so I'll keep that in mind. 

Having Vader appear in Episode III in the scene when the Death Star is being built totally makes Vader's reveal in STAR WARS less climatic. DON'T DO IT!

ben_danger said:

I'd be really surprised if anything is set in stone until the moment it is released. ESB:R is evidence of that.

How so?

On the Star Wars Revisited page on face book Ady said that he despises the ROTS Vader suit and he wouldn't be using of the footage of Vader IN THE SUIT. He never said anything about cutting the stretcher scene, but if he did that there would be no continuity problems. 

Has anyone else noticed that Adywan taking out the Darth Vader scenes in ROTS doesn't keep the "No, I am your father" reveal a secret until ESB? I've read on facebook that the last we see of Anakin in ROTS is when he's on that medical stretcher thing on Coruscant after he was beaten by Obi-Wan. We can obviously assume that he survived without being shown how he exactly got put into the suit. Plus, before Vader and Obi-Wan duel Vader says " I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master." Anyone with half a brain can come to the conclusion that Vader is Anakin. Also, when Aunt Beru says "He has too much of his father in him." and Uncle Owen responds "That's what I'm afraid of." you don't think anyone is going to come to the obvious conclusion that Vader is Luke's father after Obi-Wan and Vader's conversation if they are watching this in order? 

CatBus said:

Lord Haseo said:

I said name 5 IMPORTANT things that happened in TMP....Read before you reply dude.

s/good/important/g

T,FTFY. I.

..........What?

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

Lord Haseo said:

I really don't care how much of an OT fanboy you are you've have to admit that ROTS isn't anywhere near bad.

TMP molests the story of the OOT, AOTC beats it to a bloody pulp, and ROTS completely disembowels it.

So, yeah, it isn't anywhere near bad - it's far, far beyond that.

 

Oh you OT  fanboys and your consensuses. :D

CatBus said:

Lord Haseo said:

Name 5 IMPORTANT things that happened in TPM that shapes the rest of the series.....

 

The pacing in TMP was awful, it demystified the mythology of The Force, Jake Lloyd's performance was awful, every character and plot point of significance is reintroduced in AOTC so really we don't need TPM and the movie was just boring.....But its better than ROTS.......Give me a break.....

Wrong forum, but I'll keep it brief.  None of the movies had 5 good things going for them at all, so that's not a good metric for distinguishing them.  TPM was annoying enough to keep me awake and left a deep enough impression that I can remember parts of it.  That's a pretty low bar, but ROTS failed to clear it.  AOTC cleared the annoying hurdle*, placing it in the middle of the pack.  Not only do I feel ROTS is the worst prequel (much more boring and forgettable than the rest), I've found that many here agree.  Just because so many share my opinion doesn't mean yours is invalid though.

* AOTC was more annoying than TPM, but that doesn't really work in its favor.  I actually had to walk out of the theatre for a few minutes during AOTC, while wincing seemed adequate to stomach TPM.  I don't disagree with any of your TPM criticisms.

I said name 5 IMPORTANT things that happened in TMP....Read before you reply dude.

Name 5 IMPORTANT things that happened in TPM that shapes the rest of the series.....

The pacing in TMP was awful, it demystified the mythology of The Force, Jake Lloyd's performance was awful, every character and plot point of significance is reintroduced in AOTC so really we don't need TPM and the movie was just boring.....But its better than ROTS.......Give me a break.....

First of all let me quote myself...

Blasphemy! *throws acid on face*

But the original three Star Wars films indeed ARE masterpieces. Great story, characters, pacing (except ROTJ), arguably the greatest music ever written and composed, awesome and intriguing mythology and SW is filled to the brim with symbology. Even though the PT fell short, it still kept plenty of the elements of the OT alive. Calling the SW saga anything but art is insulting.

The reality here is simply mathematical. Out of six Star Wars films two qualify as good.

SW, ESB, ROTJ ANNNND ROTS are good-great films.

ROTS had great pacing, story telling (except for the plot hole concerning Leia's memories of Padme) action, amazing music and was emotional as hell. I really don't care how much of an OT fanboy you are you've have to admit that ROTS isn't anywhere near bad.

ROTJ was also a good film. Yes it had pacing issues (ewoks >_>) but, it had some of the greatest moments in the Star Wars Saga and calling ROTJ anything less than a good film is insanity.

So that leaves the ratio at 2:3

The truth is that George Lucas only made one masterpiece in his career, and that’s the weirdly underappreciated American Graffiti.

Empire Strikes Back......I rest my case.

So overated.....not in the slightest. >_>

AntcuFaalb said:

Lord Haseo said:

Calling the SW saga anything but art is insulting.

Insulting to whom?

Humanity.

AntcuFaalb said:

So I certainly love StarWars, but come on... it's not the Mona Lisa.

WATCH IT AGAIN! :)

AntcuFaalb said:

I guess my opinion is unpopular here, but I'll repeat it again because the meat of what I'm trying to say is hidden in that big comment block in my previous post.

I love Star Wars, I really do, but I fail to see its value as anything more than a three-part morality tale with great characters, creatures, and Jim Henson Muppet-monsters.

I just don't see the point in bickering about the ROTJ plot. It fits in with the others because they're collectively just three silly little movies. That is, they're three very successful and entertaining movies, but silly little ones nonetheless. Enjoy them!

Star Wars =/= Citizen Kane

Blasphemy! *throws acid on face*

But the original three Star Wars films indeed ARE masterpieces. Great story, characters, pacing (except ROTJ), arguably the greatest music ever written and composed, awesome and intriguing mythology and SW is filled to the brim with symbology. Even though the PT fell short, it still kept plenty of the elements of the OT alive. Calling the SW saga anything but art is insulting.

ROTJ doesn't come close to ESB or SW. The problem I have with this film is not that the Ewoks are in the film, it is because the Ewoks slow the film down exponentially. And until ROTJ:R comes out I have to be constantly reminded of the gaping plot hole concerning Leia's true mother. But the 2nd act of the movie was fantastic especially when Anakin killed Palpatine and when he says to Luke "Let me look on you with my own eyes." I cry every time. I have ROTS slightly above ROTJ.

adywan said:

You can't play 720p or 1080p on a DVD player. Harmy has done a set of brilliant theatrical versions in 720p but i think they are in AVCHD format so you would have to convert them to a playable format for the Xbox360. Check out the de-specialized version in the preservations thread.

Ok and what format does the xbox360 need?

PS: ANH:R made me feel like a kid when I watched it.

I’m looking for a HD (720p or 1080p) fan edit of the theatrical versions of the OT than can be played on a DVD player or on a 360. (I don’t have a BluRay player)