Lord Haseo

Same here as it’s something I wanted to see since I was a wee lad.

Also Vader looks pretty badass in Black & White and so does the all white saber. I love the contrast a lot and I can’t wait to see what Degobah looks like in Black & White.

With the hype building for these past few months how do you feel about the Vader slaughtering scene?

Spankbang gets movies uploaded to their site on a regular basis.

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

Very nice! Lower neckline, skirt, and heels would be perfect.

Not feelin the other pics as much though, I’ve seen some better ones of her.

I agree on the last part. I have’t really been saving too many pictures of anything lately.

Daisy Ridley has been long overdue to be put ITT:

and she has never been more attractive than when she made this video:

JawsTDS said:

Alderaan said:
…continues to enjoy the new films like a few of you do, and understands that some or most people here aren’t going to like the new abominations that Disney keeps putting out.

Can you provide evidence to support your claim that a majority of this forum hates the new movies?

Asking for that is like asking for Chic Fil-A sandwiches to rain from the sky. I would love nothing more than for that to happen but such a thing will never come to pass.

Alderaan said:

joefavs said:

Eh, if I’m being honest I’m sure I won’t stay gone, but I do think I need a break. It seems that the board is becoming more about hating most of Star Wars than liking any of it.

The name of the board is Original Trilogy. OT = 3 movies. That means 5/8 movies are not OT movies, which is more than half, and would constitute most.

Out of 8 movies that have been made, only 2 and half of them are any good. Eventually, there will be 15 or 20 Star Wars movies or more and they will almost all be terrible. Enjoy.

As always we thank you for your contribution to the site.

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

going out with Rogue One

Did it say yes?

Actually I was the one who said yes and it was magical.

joefavs said:

Maybe the character was always supposed to die in VIII anyway. That would really be ideal.

Yep. I think it was confirmed she would be in IX prior to Carrie’s death but no one knows exactly how she could be used.

I was too but I can wait no longer. Also in the next two weeks I’m going to stop smoking so going out with Rogue One onward is the best way one can go out.

Frank your Majesty said:

Of course. I don’t expect you or anyone else to exactly share my views, or to change their views based on these two posts. I was just explaining where I’m coming from when I put Star Wars over Empire.

I feel you man and I see where you’re coming from in terms of a strictly visual experience but I tend to think of these things in retrospect so that I can clearly analyze things.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Tomorrow?

Doesn’t it release digitally today?

So Gorillaz is coming out with some new heat…Awesome

Also The Heart Part IV is fire.

Frank your Majesty said:

Lord Haseo said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Lord Haseo said:

The only one that can really be considered high art is ESB and that’s not to say that SW and TFA aren’t great films but if we compare those films to some of the all time greats they won’t hold up nearly as well as ESB would. Then if we bring Rogue1 and ROTJ into the fold any kind of argument for why those are as great as ESB (or the other all time greats) would wither and die very swiftly.

I disagree. The overall writing in Empire may be better than in Star Wars, but stylistically Empire isn’t nearly as bold as its predecessor. In my opinion, the cinematography in Star Wars is unmatched by any other movie in the franchise.

I think cinematography (and style in general) only goes so far when we’re talking about all time greats. In my opinion strong writing in terms of plot and characters trumps all.

That’s why I said “in the franchise”.
If I only cared about stories and characters, I could just as well read a book. This doesn’t mean I don’t care about these things, they are just not the most important aspects of a movie to me. A simple story, like in Star Wars, told in a visually interesting way trumps a very complex story, filmed in a rather basic way.
For example, the way the fighter movements are created during the attack on the Death Star, by moving the ship in one direction and moving the background relative to that to create this complex sense of motion, is fantastic. It’s a very unique stylistic element, that sadly hasn’t been used since then. Now the spaceship movements in Empire or Jedi are much more realistic, since they were created by thinking where the ships are moving in 3D space, but they are not as visaully engaging, at least for me.

Well I believe the same to be true of franchises as well so we’ll just have to agree to disagree 😉

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

When it comes to comparison to other great films, I think ANH is the only one that can stand alone and be compared. Yes, ESB has more complex story and a bit better execution, but its story is completely dependant on the other two films and it builds on many concepts introduced in the original. Not to mention ANH was by far more culturally impactful and historically significant.

That’s fine and all but if we compare the movies in all aspects of film making and storytelling Empire towers over STAR WARS in my opinion as all that other stuff you’re talking about has no bearing on how I view a film. I rate movies solely on the content.

You mean all other stuff I am talking about, like story, has no bearing on how you view the film? If you rate solely on the content in the individual film, ESB is quite weak story-wise. The story is incomplete in the beginning and more-so in the end.

I’m not saying to act as if STAR WARS didn’t exist while watching/rating ESB; I’m just judging the competency of the writing. When I’m discussing the quality of two movies in the same series I don’t have preconceived notions about other entries in the Saga because that’s just weird.

If you compare within the series that is fine. But that is not what we are talking about here. If you compare a film to other great films you have to do it individually.

But if you compare ESB to those films without preconceived notions and with quality being the only thing you’re analyzing you wouldn’t have that problem. The problem is yours buddy.

So the most important part of the film (i.e. story) is not part of your “quality”? And unless you can provide me an objective measure to define quality (you cannot), your argument fails in its basics.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

When it comes to comparison to other great films, I think ANH is the only one that can stand alone and be compared. Yes, ESB has more complex story and a bit better execution, but its story is completely dependant on the other two films and it builds on many concepts introduced in the original. Not to mention ANH was by far more culturally impactful and historically significant.

That’s fine and all but if we compare the movies in all aspects of film making and storytelling Empire towers over STAR WARS in my opinion as all that other stuff you’re talking about has no bearing on how I view a film. I rate movies solely on the content.

You mean all other stuff I am talking about, like story, has no bearing on how you view the film? If you rate solely on the content in the individual film, ESB is quite weak story-wise. The story is incomplete in the beginning and more-so in the end.

I’m not saying to act as if STAR WARS didn’t exist while watching/rating ESB; I’m just judging the competency of the writing. When I’m discussing the quality of two movies in the same series I don’t have preconceived notions about other entries in the Saga because that’s just weird.

If you compare within the series that is fine. But that is not what we are talking about here. If you compare a film to other great films you have to do it individually.

But if you compare ESB to those films without preconceived notions and with quality being the only thing you’re analyzing you wouldn’t have that problem. The problem is yours buddy.

On a side note I’d like to one one of these mothafuckas as a pet.

Alderaan said:
A **** film gets made with all kinds of junk plotholes

Elaborate.

rehashes

totally illogical things going on

Elaborate.

no character development

Some character development but not enough for most of the characters.

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

When it comes to comparison to other great films, I think ANH is the only one that can stand alone and be compared. Yes, ESB has more complex story and a bit better execution, but its story is completely dependant on the other two films and it builds on many concepts introduced in the original. Not to mention ANH was by far more culturally impactful and historically significant.

That’s fine and all but if we compare the movies in all aspects of film making and storytelling Empire towers over STAR WARS in my opinion as all that other stuff you’re talking about has no bearing on how I view a film. I rate movies solely on the content.

You mean all other stuff I am talking about, like story, has no bearing on how you view the film? If you rate solely on the content in the individual film, ESB is quite weak story-wise. The story is incomplete in the beginning and more-so in the end.

I’m not saying to act as if STAR WARS didn’t exist while watching/rating ESB; I’m just judging the competency of the writing. When I’m discussing the quality of two movies in the same series I don’t have preconceived notions about other entries in the Saga because that’s just weird.

DuracellEnergizer said:
the B&W look really worked wonders for many parts of the film; it lent some of the outdoor scenes a nice Bergman flavour, Snoke looked slightly better in monochrome (emphasis on slightly), it gave everything associated with the First Order a more mechanical aesthetic (which I liked), and it even made Kylo Ren and his lightsaber look more impressive – like the Grim Reaper wielding a medieval longsword.

Well I know what I’m doing this weekend. Admittedly I’m probably going to bite the bullet and buy Rouge One tomorrow so I’ll watch that, the OT and TFA all in B&W. Thanks for the idea man 😉

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Frank your Majesty said:

Lord Haseo said:

The only one that can really be considered high art is ESB and that’s not to say that SW and TFA aren’t great films but if we compare those films to some of the all time greats they won’t hold up nearly as well as ESB would. Then if we bring Rogue1 and ROTJ into the fold any kind of argument for why those are as great as ESB (or the other all time greats) would wither and die very swiftly.

I disagree. The overall writing in Empire may be better than in Star Wars, but stylistically Empire isn’t nearly as bold as its predecessor. In my opinion, the cinematography in Star Wars is unmatched by any other movie in the franchise.

I think cinematography (and style in general) only goes so far when we’re talking about all time greats. In my opinion strong writing in terms of plot and characters trumps all.

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

The only one that can really be considered high art is ESB and that’s not to say that SW and TFA aren’t great films but if we compare those films to some of the all time greats they won’t hold up nearly as well as ESB would.

First, what is this “high art” crap anyway? Seem like some irrelevant snobbish thing that does not have any connection to the reality.

When it comes to comparison to other great films, I think ANH is the only one that can stand alone and be compared. Yes, ESB has more complex story and a bit better execution, but its story is completely dependant on the other two films and it builds on many concepts introduced in the original. Not to mention ANH was by far more culturally impactful and historically significant.

That’s fine and all but if we compare the movies in all aspects of film making and storytelling Empire towers over STAR WARS in my opinion as all that other stuff you’re talking about has no bearing on how I view a film. I rate movies solely on the content.

The only one that can really be considered high art is ESB and that’s not to say that SW and TFA aren’t great films but if we compare those films to some of the all time greats they won’t hold up nearly as well as ESB would. Then if we bring Rogue1 and ROTJ into the fold any kind of argument for why those are as great as ESB (or the other all time greats) would wither and die very swiftly.

What are the specific points of contention that JJ and Kathleen had?