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iamweasel said:
Forgot to say, the scream would be a really nice touch. :)
^ This!
EDIT: As for a scream you could use; Leia gives a nice scream when escaping with Han and C-3P0 from Hoth.
Bingowings said:
Lord Haseo said:
Bingowings said:
The droid could be fixed with a physical model and a composite of the flipped bandolier could be done but it would take more time.
There is an argument to be made to get on with the release and if Ady found a moment of free time and enough thrill in the challenge while doing the other edits to really go to town on these minor details, releasing a final-final fancier pants version sometime in the future.
I personally find flip shots so distracting it would be worth the effort at sometime but maybe not this time.
Not trying to be rude, but who the hell cares? This is the smallest of problems in comparison to the train-wreck that is the Battle of Hoth (editing wise of course), The asteroid field, Cloud City skyline and buildings and Yoda lip syncing and Ady has fixed all of these imperative problems. So why even have a discussion about something so trivial?
You aren't being at all rude.
The reason I'm continuing with this point raised by others is that like the number of guns in the rack on the Death Star security room or which side of Slave One is pointing at the camera it's a continuity/compositional issue. If those are worth fixing this is worth fixing also and vice versa.
I hate continuity errors as much as the next SW fan, but this one is something I haven't noticed even though I've watched ESB far more times than most people would deem normal. I just wouldn't want something people barely notice to take up the time Ady could be using to fix the problems that still persist which are of more significance.
Bingowings said:
The droid could be fixed with a physical model and a composite of the flipped bandolier could be done but it would take more time.
There is an argument to be made to get on with the release and if Ady found a moment of free time and enough thrill in the challenge while doing the other edits to really go to town on these minor details, releasing a final-final fancier pants version sometime in the future.
I personally find flip shots so distracting it would be worth the effort at sometime but maybe not this time.
Not trying to be rude, but who the hell cares? This is the smallest of problems in comparison to the train-wreck that is the Battle of Hoth (editing wise of course), The asteroid field, Cloud City skyline and buildings and Yoda lip syncing and Ady has fixed all of these imperative problems. So why even have a discussion about something so trivial?
Joshua_Blue said:
My almost final attempt at removing the torture droid:
I just could not manage the correct tracking of the mask throughout the scene, so I replaced parts of it with Lea. Not perfect, but the best I can do.
Other than the audio it works.
adywan said:
Darth Lars said:
It is not a flaw that some building in the far distance is the same behind both the Millenium Falcon and the Slave I.
Some buildings? Actually it's all of them, including the same clouds because they used the exact same matte for both platforms, so it is a flaw:
Obvious trolling is obvious. It didn't dignify a response.
Darth Lars said:
Hmm.. I like the original cityscape and sky better. First, Slave I going up into a bluer sky illustrates better that it is heading towards Space. Second, I prefer McQuarries architecture better. It is not a flaw that some building in the far distance is the same behind both the Millenium Falcon and the Slave I.
Ryan McAvoy said:
That's the Cloud City the child version of me thought he saw!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEkvWKl5gHw
(^ Pretty much how those 10 minutes and 53 seconds made me feel)
Thanks Adywan :-)
Couldn't of said it better. That is what prepubescent teenage boners are made of.
adywan said:
Latest video. Just over 10 minutes of completed ESB:R
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=862811780401072&set=vb.223279371020986&type=2&theater
Ryan McAvoy said:
Lord Haseo said:
FrankT said:
Maybe by the end of the year. Or the next.
It really shows how bad of a job they did editing this film seeing as how it's taking so long for Ady to fix all these errors. Oh well. ESB Despecialized 2.0 will hold me over until then.
They probably took a great deal of care but errors happen in all movies, with no relationship between the amount of errrors, to how great the film is. It's just that we watch these 3 movies a hundred times more often than other films, so we spot more. People are employed on film crews with the sole job of trying to minimise these errors.
That is true, but this project was started 6 years ago...I'm just saying it's sad that a fan is doing better at editing a film than people in the industry.
FrankT said:
Maybe by the end of the year. Or the next.
It really shows how bad of a job they did editing this film seeing as how it's taking so long for Ady to fix all these errors. Oh well. ESB Despecialized 2.0 will hold me over until then.
doubleofive said:
ESBR will not be released on made-up free-advertising terrible-pun day. Of that I can assure you.
Okay. Well since Harmy did bring up May 21st......
mrbenja0618 said:
Lord Haseo said:
Goddammit......I really hate to be that guy, BUT since national Star Wars Day is on Sunday is there any chance it will be released then?
I really hate you because you're that guy! ;)
I shall not be chastised for asking what everyone who knows about ESB:R is is thinking about given future events. So sayeth I!
Goddammit......I really hate to be that guy, BUT since national Star Wars Day is on Sunday is there any chance it will be released then?
I was watching a few of Ady's Yoda clips on youtube (When Yoda's lips move more) and in the description of one video that was released in 2009 stated that the effects weren't finished. So does this mean that Ady improved Yoda's lips moving even further?
ray_afraid said:
Lord Haseo said:
ray_afraid said:
Lord Haseo said:
ray_afraid said:
Matticon said:
Ray,
it is my understanding that the crushed blacks are unfixable using the blue ray as the source. See hamy's making the despecialized Star Wars Youtube to see why. The detail in the black areas is just gone. ANH:R suffers the same problem.
however as ady has shown with the restored cockpit shots, he has access to a HD film scan of ESB. Therefore from that source the information lost in the crushed blacks is still present. A lot of work to restore.... But it could theoretically be done.
matt
Harmy's editions are why I'm askin'. The detail restored in his SW:DE is absolutely amazing. I'd love to see the same done to the Revisited projects if possible. In fact, it's probably what I'd be most excited about.
But, if it's not doable, it's not.Except for the low res Vader eyebrows lol
Vader doesn't have eyebrows in Star Wars and Harmy hasn't restored the crushed blacks in the other two films, so that's not what I'm talking about.
Also, Harmy's first efforts at repairing Anikin's eyebrows in his edition of ROTJ is very much appreciated.I'm not saying to really critique him, but it was more of a joke hence the "lol"
Why so defensive?
*Anakin
Your post seemed very dismissive and mocking of Harmy's efforts. I worship his work and won't have it slandered.
; )
Well let me dismiss these allegations here and now; Harmy's edits or the OT are the kitty's titties.
ray_afraid said:
Lord Haseo said:
ray_afraid said:
Matticon said:
Ray,
it is my understanding that the crushed blacks are unfixable using the blue ray as the source. See hamy's making the despecialized Star Wars Youtube to see why. The detail in the black areas is just gone. ANH:R suffers the same problem.
however as ady has shown with the restored cockpit shots, he has access to a HD film scan of ESB. Therefore from that source the information lost in the crushed blacks is still present. A lot of work to restore.... But it could theoretically be done.
matt
Harmy's editions are why I'm askin'. The detail restored in his SW:DE is absolutely amazing. I'd love to see the same done to the Revisited projects if possible. In fact, it's probably what I'd be most excited about.
But, if it's not doable, it's not.Except for the low res Vader eyebrows lol
Vader doesn't have eyebrows in Star Wars and Harmy hasn't restored the crushed blacks in the other two films, so that's not what I'm talking about.
Also, Harmy's first efforts at repairing Anikin's eyebrows in his edition of ROTJ is very much appreciated.
I'm not saying to really critique him, but it was more of a joke hence the "lol"
Why so defensive?
*Anakin
ray_afraid said:
Matticon said:
Ray,
it is my understanding that the crushed blacks are unfixable using the blue ray as the source. See hamy's making the despecialized Star Wars Youtube to see why. The detail in the black areas is just gone. ANH:R suffers the same problem.
however as ady has shown with the restored cockpit shots, he has access to a HD film scan of ESB. Therefore from that source the information lost in the crushed blacks is still present. A lot of work to restore.... But it could theoretically be done.
matt
Harmy's editions are why I'm askin'. The detail restored in his SW:DE is absolutely amazing. I'd love to see the same done to the Revisited projects if possible. In fact, it's probably what I'd be most excited about.
But, if it's not doable, it's not.
Except for the low res Vader eyebrows lol
timdiggerm said:
Lord Haseo said:
Bobocop said:
If Lucas was going to nitpick the framing of shots 17 years later, maybe he shouldn't have hired a director and just done it himself to begin with. That's disrespectful to Kershner's original vision of the film HE directed.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
You say that as if it's a bad thing. If the world lived by the Sith Code the world would be an exponentially better place.
Bobocop said:
If Lucas was going to nitpick the framing of shots 17 years later, maybe he shouldn't have hired a director and just done it himself to begin with. That's disrespectful to Kershner's original vision of the film HE directed.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Joshua_Blue said:
No, I do not plan a HD version.
I am now working on my last try at masking the torture droid. If it does't work out, than I'll probably try to recut the scene or just leave it in.
Okay if not then please for the love of all that is good in the universe release it in DVD-9.
DarkRha said:
is it true Addy will take a year break before starting RoTJ:R? i think i read that somewhere
He will be taking a year off after the release of ESB:R; and well deserved from what I've seen.
I've watched a few of your clips and I have to say I'm impressed. Keep us updated.
Also are you going to convert this to HD once ANH:R HD comes out?
ctlw83 said:
I think the real question here shouldn't be about framing, 4th wall, etc. The real question should be, is anyone honestly going to enjoy the film any LESS because of the change?
Thank you! I love how trivial debates like this get so heated, but ideas to strengthen the narrative gets ignored.
sonofjones said:
I don't see much reason for this since he had underestimated Luke by assuming that pushing him into the carbon freezer would be enough to defeat him when he showed himself, by jumping out in time, to be in tune with his surroundings, which is why during the rest of their duel he didn't hold back as he did before
Darth Vader was toying with Luke up until he struck from the shadows. With more of Luke's skills on display, the "Impressive" line makes more sense.
And don't forget about the "Obi-Wan has taught you well." being more significant if removed from ESB due to Luke's skill coming full circle.
After watching ESB for the umpteenth time I got an idea to change some of the dialogue in the Luke vs Vader scene. I always felt Vader saying "Impressive....most impressive." after Luke jumped out of the Carbonite chamber to be very odd seeing as how he has barely proven himself in that duel up to that point. So I propose this: after Luke blinds Vader with the steam, grabs hit light saber and defends himself against Vader's attack then Vader should say "Impressive. Now release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me."
This does 2 things; making this change will give more context to the "Obi-Wan has taught you well." line used in ROTJ seeing as at that point Luke's skills had exponentially increased since their duel on Bespin. Also this makes the "Impressive." line more weight seeing as how Luke has done alot more than jump out of the Carbonite chamber and climb up a few inches.
Thoughts?
