Lord Haseo

John Doom said:

When I say he’s “emo”, I’m joking, of course 😄
I agree he’s been fleshed out. But what’s his purpose in the movie? If he’s a villain, does he work as a villain?
Sure, Luke was a bit cocky in ANH, but his attitude didn’t affect his actions, and so his character: he’s a brave one, he does save the princess, he “does care”, we’re with him when he blows up the Death Star, he’s the hero.
Ren, on the other hand, as a villain, takes off his mask too early, and we get to know he’s just a boy. He’s constantly mocked by our heroes, he’s afraid, can’t take control of the situation and, finally, gets defeated. Is he a true villain, is he actually a threat to the heroes? 😄 If you ask me, no, and this affected the whole movie, especially its second part.

We’re not supposed to take Kylo Ren seriously because like Luke he has yet to finish his training. Once he does there’s no telling how stronger he will become. Also seeing as how he has fully given himself to the dark side the worrisome traits he has exhibited are going to be exponentially worse. I see Kylo Ren as an idea that has yet to be fully realized.

John Doom said:

When I say he’s “emo”, I’m joking, of course 😄
I agree he’s been fleshed out. But what’s his purpose in the movie? If he’s a villain, does he work as a villain?
Sure, Luke was a bit cocky in ANH, but his attitude didn’t affect his actions, and so his character: he’s a brave one, he does save the princess, he “does care”, we’re with him when he blows up the Death Star, he’s the hero.
Ren, on the other hand, as a villain, takes off his mask too early, and we get to know he’s just a boy. He’s constantly mocked by our heroes, he’s afraid, can’t take control of the situation and, finally, gets defeated. Is he a true villain, is he actually a threat to the heroes? 😄 If you ask me, no, and this affected the whole movie, especially its second part.

Well that is a pretty unpopular opinion but if that’s the way you feel good for you. I liked the film. It wasn’t perfect and yes it was similar to ANH but luckily they repackaged it and made it feel new. I was entertained by the film and it makes me want to see where these characters are going to go. It was far better then I expected it to be.

TV’s Frink said:

Yoda Is Your Father said:

Just out of curiosity, are you a filmmaker?

I only ask because you’re throwing out some pretty big opinions, and I’m curious about your credentials.

For the record, I make TV commercials. Admittedly I don’t make films, but it’s the same ballpark. I write the scripts, then oversee every stage of production. I choose the director and work closely with them during pre-prod and on set, I sit in on casting and have final say on actors, I oversee the edit, post and sound (all while juggling client and audience considerations and concerns). Although my ‘storytelling’ is confined to a couple of minutes, rather than full length features, I do like to think that years in the industry have

And you know what?.. I would NEVER pipe up about how terrible the editing was on a Star Wars movie. Sure, I might say I don’t like it, or this and that bit sucked, but real, granular filmmaking critique?.. I’m simply not qualified, and I know how amazingly hard it is to balance every voice in the room and still end up with a finished product that makes sense and entertains people.

The director of every film you’ve ever seen, even the bad ones, deserves respect simply for getting a movie made and released in the first place. That doesn’t mean we can’t critique it (that’s part of the fun), but it always amazes me how easy people think it is, and how everybody thinks they can do better.

So are you a filmmaker? I’d love to see some of your work.

Are you ready for some real fun?

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/890436

So…much nitpicking. You can tell this person was not going to like the movie before he/she saw it.

STAR WARS Revisited

The Empire Strikes Back Despecialized 2.0

Fall of The Jedi I/II

Labyrinth of Evil V1

Return of The Jedi Despecialized

darklordoftech said:

Before TPM was released, people said that it couldn’t possibly be worse than ROTJ.

I’ve talked to many people who were at least teenagers/young adults when TMP came out and no one had such discussions…

I’d love to see a Vader movie set between ROTS and ANH in which Vader is hunting Jedi.

imperialscum said:

Bingowings said:

Some of the effects are amazing :

That's no special effect... that's a force kick...

 Shows how far Luke has come as a Force user.

Bingowings said:

Some of the effects are amazing :

Many if not all movies that has action have issues like that though I can't think of too many that are that blatant

generalfrevious said:

Lord Haseo said:

generalfrevious said:

TV's Frink said:

WHAT IF TFA TRAILER IS AWFUL

I thought it was good. 

 ..........never would I have thought..

 I think I liked the last trailer as well.

 You're full of surprises aren't you?

John Doom said:

joefavs said:

 As I said...

John Doom said:

[...] his cry, not only doesn't look goofy (just look at Dameron's face!), but is reminiscent of westerns' movies. In other words, it fits Ford's cowboy character.

I mean out of thousands if not millions of people in this war it's not far fetched that there's someone else in the galaxy who enjoys flying and dogfights. 

John Doom said:

That he's a pilot probably just about to risk his life, not a kid on the rollercoaster. Woow! :D

So what if he's reckless? I'd say a guy like that who is reckless and can crack jokes in semi serious moments is a good thing if they don't take it too too far. It would give the movie some life.

John Doom said:

Dameron's goofy "wooow!". As is, out of context, it looks ridiculous to me. Considering we're talking about Abrams, this isn't anything new, and to me it just looks... pointless and stupid :D

 He's enthusiastic about flying....So what?

RicOlie_2 said:

As I said in the other thread, the only problem I had with it is that it felt too dark. 

So long as it doesn't pull some GoT shit I'm okay with a darker tone so long as it's not done purely to shock people.

xxtelecine 7xx said:

that's More like it...

 Good God almighty that looks way better. Not sure why I hadn't noticed it.

generalfrevious said:

TV's Frink said:

WHAT IF TFA TRAILER IS AWFUL

I thought it was good. 

 ..........never would I have thought..

DominicCobb said:

Many of my friends have tried to push me to watch the trailer... but I'm not budging. It's like peaking at your presents before Christmas.

No real plot details are spoiled but a couple of rumors are confirmed in regards to a couple of characters. But good for you; I wish I had your resiliency.

As long as the plot, dialogue, characters, tone, music and pacing are all good I could give a motherfuck what it looks like. 

imperialscum said:

After watching the last trailer, I had a really bad feeling about it. It didn't feel like Star Wars for some reason.

 30+ years between sequels can do that....I want it to feel both new and old. 

CatBus said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Episode-VII-to-be-directed-by-JJ-Abrams-NON-SPOILER-THREAD/topic/15121/

Thank you. For some reason I haven't noticed this thread in months...just the spoiler one.

SilverWook said:

Trailer talk ought to be confined to the proper threads.

You mean the spoiler thread? If so then I might as well walk on a mine field. Ain't no way I'm getting spoiled. And plus this had to do with the film.

So that new trailer....pretty good stuff....

DuracellEnergizer said:

I care more about the forum migration than some damn movie I may not even end up seeing, so my answer is no, I don't agree.

 Your avatar lol

Marty.McFly said:

If I'm not mistaken Ady said he was releasing an HD version to ANH:R after he completes ROTJ:R which will also bring back the red lenses for Vader's eyes.

 And "Battle of the Heroes" would be out as well...right? I kinda remember something about this but it's been so long I could be completely wrong about the music.

 If he's trying to save the Vader reveal for ESB that would be advised.

Ronster said:

There is no MKV release for Star Wars Revisited as far as I am aware it is x-vid (avi), and DVD-5 and DVD-9.

http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/anhr-change-list/

If I'm not mistaken Ady said he was releasing an HD version to ANH:R after he completes ROTJ:R which will also bring back the red lenses for Vader's eyes.