Lord Haseo

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

1. Star Wars
2. Revenge of The Sith
3. The Empire Strikes Back
4. Attack of The Clones/The Phantom Menace/Return of The Jedi(with Victory Celebration)
5. Return of The Jedi sans Victory Celebration
6. The Special Edition OT
7. The Force Awakens

Have you even seen TFA or do you just disregard it because Lucas wasn’t involved?

I just found it to be a completely imagination-free uninspired cash grab.

And ROTS isn’t?

Bosk said:

TV’s Frink said:

It’s barely a film. It’s a bunch of cutscenes.

An accurate review of tfa

In a alternate dimension where Trump is the leader of the entire planet…that’s a world I don’t want to live in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4D0wnze6ZI

@ 0:06 seems to indicate that the interrogation scene did initially have him with his mask on.

Bosk said:

Your opinion indeed, ROTJ is the end of saga so will never be bettered by any sequel. Star Wars started with anh and finished with jedi. Anything after that is just am exercise in mass commercialism, consumerism and capitalism. The myth has gone, the magic vanished, the force… Tainted.

Even when I was a kid I was never content with ROTJ’s ending. I want more. Hopefully the ST will have a more grandiose ending to the Saga. While ROTJ’s ending was great when the OT only existed now that Star Wars is a Saga the impact has dissipated.

Bosk said:

Lord Haseo said:

Bosk said:

Esb
Anh
ROTJ

All the rest don’t exist…

Your anger and hatred is palpable. Ironically this trilogy will be talked about for hundreds of years if not longer. So when we’re all dead it’ll still be alive in the minds of the people who watch them.

The 3 I mentioned will…the rest…doubtful they will even be remembered, well they will be but for all the wrong reasons…pt bollocks and Disney dogshit

History loves comebacks man. TFA is a shining example of one. For that reason alone it will be remembered along side the OT. Even if the sequels blow TFA out of the water it will still be considered as the catalyst for the return of Star Wars.

Bosk said:

I was just disappointed

Please. No matter how the movie turned out it would have disappointed you. So saying you are disappointed doesn’t mean a whole lot.

The teasers were false advertising at best.

Explain please…

Well given that TFA is better than ROTJ by a decent margin in my opinion I’d say the future seems bright. The sequels are set up in such a way that a number of things can transpire. In turn that makes me want to watch the next films and that’s something ANH fails at.

Bosk said:

Esb
Anh
ROTJ

All the rest don’t exist…

Your anger and hatred is palpable. Ironically this trilogy will be talked about for hundreds of years if not longer. So when we’re all dead it’ll still be alive in the minds of the people who watch them.

joefavs said:

The portrayals of Yoda and Palpatine

Yoda was really desecrated in AOTC to be fair

Everything involving Grievous

Fair point.

The lame way that Padme is handled

Padme was misused throughout the PT but her death was inexcusable. It really shows George didn’t even ponder about how his assbackwards ideas would effect the OT

The excessive CGI sets

This is a problem with the entirety of the PT and ROTS has the best CGI effects by far. AOTC has the worst.

The bloated action scenes

Fair point.

The dialogue

Yet another thing that is seen throughout the entire PT and something that ROTS is better at…for the most part.

Has anyone on here tried to justify why they hate ROTS more than any prequel? And no…hating on it because most people regard it as the “best” Prequel isn’t a reason. It comes off as vain attempt to be a contrarian.

darklordoftech said:

That in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, Bane causes the very thing that his character revolves around preventing: the extinction of the Sith through infighting.

The Brotherhood of Darkness needed to be purged because they followed Lord Kaan and his asinine beliefs of equality among the Sith. So Bane destroyed them so he could rebuild the Sith Order under The Rule of Two

Diego said:

Lord Haseo said:

Diego said:
Anakin killing little Jedi kids is so cheap and stupid

Cheap? Yes. Stupid? No…if you’re going to kill all of the Jedi it’s reasonable to kill the kids too just in case one of them comes across a holocron. It’s called a contingency for God’s sake.

any clone could have shot the children

True but maybe Palpatine specifically had Anakin kill the children to show his commitment.

instead we’re shown the clones fighting older lightsaber-weilding Jedi

Younglings had lightsabers too.

while Anakin goes to kill the baby Jedi. Not a great start for the “awesome” Darth Vader.

Every villain has to start somewhere. To think he’d be instantly like the Vader in the OT is a ridiculous expectation.

It’s a nonsense scene to get the “Anakin is evil” reaction

Primarily yes but is it really that pertinent? Whether it was kids or random innocent people there was going to be a scene that exists for the explicit purpose to show how far Anakin has fallen. Even a good version of the PT would have had such a scene.

Diego said:
Anakin killing little Jedi kids is so cheap and stupid

Cheap? Yes. Stupid? No…if you’re going to kill all of the Jedi it’s reasonable to kill the kids too just in case one of them comes across a holocron. It’s called a contingency for God’s sake.

TavorX said:

Lord Haseo said:
Ezra’s power is growing pretty fast. Granted that he survives Rebels it’s feasible to believe Ezra could be an expert force wielder by the time the ST happens.

I still have issue with that. Run of the mill comments, like mine, hopes Ezra dies leading up to ANH. Doesn’t mean I necessarily hate the character, but his presence certainly challenges everything we’ve seen in the OT. It not only disrupts the Luke/Leia duo being the galaxy’s “only hope” but that also goes against the grain of when the Emperor/Vader talk about the attractive possibility of a “powerful ally” during that time.

Ezra being alive won’t disrupt anything if he turns to the Dark Side and stays there. Ahsoka on the other hand definitely needs to die. She grew on me but she has to go.

imperialscum said:

Maybe it is Emperor who surviving the fall.

Didn’t Ian say that Palpatine is deader than most of the Starks?

TV’s Frink said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

What that says about his origins, I’m not sure. He’s probably plagueis (Hopefully not) but maybe he’ll be introduced as a younger character in something like Rebels? Darth Ezra! 😉

C’mon you know he’s better than Ezra.

Ezra’s power is growing pretty fast. Granted that he survives Rebels it’s feasible to believe Ezra could be an expert force wielder by the time the ST happens.

Ryan McAvoy said:

I mentioned somewhere or other after I first saw TFA, that I loved the way Snoke looked like an Evil version of the Lincoln Memorial…

…but I just compared those nice shots from the OP with some Lincoln face-casts and there is a possible influence there IMO…

Darth Ezra!

This…makes sense. Age wise Ezra would old and Dark Side degradation would exacerbate his aging. Also in the new Rebels trailer it is being made apparent that Ezra will be tempted by Darth Maul.

And everyone else knows it happened and most people are more than content with it.

Hal 9000 said:

Lord Haseo said:
Come on now there has to be something wrong with them. I simply can’t believe they didn’t screw that up too. It’s easily the hardest part of the film to make

Whereas the previous six films’ starfield faded away prior to the scrolling portion of the end credits, this one carries it until the end.

JJ Abrams should really pull an Obi-Wan/Luke/Yoda and go into exile because he has utterly failed Star Wars. The end credit scene is crucial to the totality of the film and he failed to do that right…incompetent hack.

darklordoftech said:

Darth Bane, the one who started the conspiracy that led to the rise of the Empire and has no canon fate.

Well there’s this abomination

MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

3. STAR WARS (has a better plot than TFA but falls short in just about every other way)

I really like TFA but I’m gonna disagree there.

It’s one of those unpopular opinion things that I can’t adequately explain but every time I watched TFA I enjoyed it way more than I have ever enjoyed STAR WARS. Maybe it’s because it’s new but I’ve seen the film 4 times and it’s embrace has only tightened.

At least STAR WARS stands on its own, while TFA needs its two sequels to know if the story is relevant or not.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing. After STAR WARS there’s no real reason to watch the others; everything is wrapped in a tight little bow while there are many things to look forward to in the upcoming sequels and that in turn invokes more of yearning to watch Episode’s VIII and IX.

Also let’s be honest. While ANH is a really good jumping off point most of the uber important stuff happened in Episodes V and VI.

And the new characters are not as interesting

Very debatable. The only thing that tips the odds in the ST’s favor is that Leia isn’t interesting at all beyond her “I’m not going to take shit from anyone” attitude. I’m interested in the dormant emotions Rey has and how that could effect her when she is tempted. I’m interested in Rey’s parentage, I’m interested in how Finn is going to transition from the First Order to The Resistance in terms of ideals. I’m interested in Kylo Ren progression as a Dark Sider and his pull towards the light. I am also interested in his deteriorating mental state.

I could keep going on and on but I think you get it. If we were in 1977 the only character we could really ponder about is Luke and his progression.

Rey has nothing to accomplish

Rey wanted to get off Jakku and be reunited with her family. Not only she set off at the end of the film to accomplish her training. Other than Luke blowing up isn’t that his only aspiration? To becoming a Jedi?

everything is easy for her

A lot of that has to do with the fact that she had to be self sufficient unlike Luke’s pathetic farming ass. Also as it pertains to flying the Falcon she almost crashed it before the chase even started.

with “Full Force Unlocked” plot holes

It’s way premature when we don’t know her origins. The possibility of her having her mind wiped is still a decent possibility and that would explain her being competent with a Lightsaber after she tapped into The Force

Finn is just a “traitor”

They decided to show us what it’s like for a morally wholesome person being a storm trooper is like…Yeah sucks that they tried to do something different.

Poe is on screen 10 minutes

Poe was certainly underused and underdeveloped but even then he was still more enjoyable to watch than Leia.

The mythology is also a missed point (the soul of an “excalibur” light saber ? Seriously ?!?).

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Psychometry

Also the Force Flashback not only introduced a new element to The Force but it is ushering in flashbacks into the Star Wars universe. A story telling element Star Wars doesn’t necessarily need but something that can improve it.

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:
Regardless, the lightsaber falling to Bespin makes sense…as do many other theories. They’re all theories, however, because nothing definitive was ever shown in the movie. Too bad impscum doesn’t understand this, so we go round and round, second verse same as the first.

I guess as an engineer I have to admit that no system is 100% reliable. The lightsabre could be missed. And let’s assume the big main shaft had no purpose (such as city stabilisation, etc.) and at the bottom there was simply an empty floor.

Okay then, let’s go to the point. The lightsabre ending up in Rey’s hand at exactly that particular moment is not only practically impossible but also stupid and unoriginal from the story perspective. It is about hundred times more stupid than any OT-connecting point in PT. All we need now is Rey being Skywalker/Solo and the PT will look like masterpiece.

You are ignoring the part where Yoda professes his love for Chewie. Nothing can possibly be as stupid as that.

So was naively thought until we saw TFA.

hyperbole

noun

obvious and intentional exaggeration.

an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”.

Has anyone considered making the Starkiller Base an actual Star Killer? Like a super weapon capable of sucking the life from a Sun, leaving the solar system to freeze in unfathomable darkness?

I’m pretty sure I’m not the only person who’s thought of this…

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

3. STAR WARS (has a better plot than TFA but falls short in just about every other way)

I really like TFA but I’m gonna disagree there.

It’s one of those unpopular opinion things that I can’t adequately explain but every time I watched TFA I enjoyed it way more than I have ever enjoyed STAR WARS. Maybe it’s because it’s new but I’ve seen the film 4 times and it’s embrace has only tightened.

They both were around during the clone wars and I’m sure Tarkin has the initiative to become Supreme Leader but there’s one problem with this. Not even in the Tarvin novel has he shown any type of affinity for The Force.

Also there’s no way Tarkin could have escaped.