Lethe

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Join date: 22-Aug-2004
Last activity: 30-Nov-2004
Posts: 290

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Post: #68928
Topic: Help me settle an argument: does Luke use the ‘force choke’?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68928/action/topic#68928
Time: 30-Sep-2004 3:59 PM

*thumbs up to Yoda* I concur, his truth is my truth.

I think Luke definitely force choked the piggies, and Bailywolf was spot on talking about motivations. I think thats accurate.

Post: #68925
Topic: Why the fans complain...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68925/action/topic#68925
Time: 30-Sep-2004 3:54 PM

It all sounds like the speculation thrown around with the W brothers and the Matrix.

"Oh wow, the movie did great...yeah, did we mention it was originally a trilogy"

Im just saying. I dont particularly care if it was all written on the fly (Star Wars I mean) - I still loved them, and nothing would change that. Thats why I wish they were available on DVD.

Post: #68921
Topic: Greedo
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68921/action/topic#68921
Time: 30-Sep-2004 3:49 PM

Haha, thats great.

Post: #68704
Topic: Greedo
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68704/action/topic#68704
Time: 30-Sep-2004 6:01 AM

Quote
Now... the tail-stomp... Jaba should have had Fet shoot Han's testicles off for this indignity.

LMAO.

I can see your point about the new concept revealing something about Jaba - but I think, as I think you do, its a reach.

The original was amazing. It was about as a good a finish to Han's introduction as you can imagine. We already know he is cocky, and we know that he is "cool", now after he wastes Greedo, we know he is a real bad ass. Salty dog you know? I think that was the original draw to his character. (Im thinking about the lines in ESB, about Leia liking Han, because he's a scoundrel, etc.)

I never had much respect for Greedo, but I think some of that came from how slow he was to draw. I guess I just thought he was a loser, cause he was dead. Now, I already think he's a loser, and now he's a terrible shot, and then he's dead. Oh well.

Post: #68701
Topic: The intelligence of SW Fan boys....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68701/action/topic#68701
Time: 30-Sep-2004 5:55 AM

There are still a lot of legitimate threads on the forum. I think if you are tired of the fanboy/anti-fanboy thing you steer away from threads titled "The intelligence of SW Fan boys...."

Im not trying to be a jerk, obviously your input is appreciated wherever you want to give it. If you feel like these particular discussions are getting old, there are some great ones still around. Im with you for the most part, now that the DVDs are out - I dont want to see this board turn into one big ANTI-Lucas rant...So those of us with deeper interests should try to keep the board alive and healthy, no?

Peace, Lethe

Post: #68700
Topic: OT.com is so loved....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68700/action/topic#68700
Time: 30-Sep-2004 5:49 AM

They certainly seem to have no problem over generalizing. I agree with starboy, we have a very broad spectrum of opinins on this forum. Personally, I think thats great - diversity is the spice of life.

Not that we arent guilty of it from time to time, but that whole thread looks like a bunch of people who are gonna have tired arms soon, from patting eachother on the back so frequently.

*I just lost my concentration because Shaq is playing basketball with Regis on tv, WTF?*

At any rate, people making such broad generalizations should be ignored. I dont think we are all malicious and nasty. I dont want to see GL publicly flailed all the time.

I think the only people we ever really tear into are the StarWars.com fanboys, but thats just because they are silly.

Post: #68489
Topic: tr47 bootleg artwork help!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68489/action/topic#68489
Time: 29-Sep-2004 5:10 PM

I think one of the most expedious ways to get it would be PM TR47, or Rikter (I forget if thats how its spelled) Browse some of the other threads for names, and just PM a few people.

Post: #68421
Topic: Info Wanted: What versions is Rikter trading?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68421/action/topic#68421
Time: 29-Sep-2004 2:08 PM

I think that sounds like a fair price Jedi. The only problem for me is, I already traded my first born to a friend of mine in highschool, I forget the details of the transaction...but im sure it was urgent.

Hows a second born? And perhaps a shrubbery?

Post: #68513
Topic: A scary thought!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68513/action/topic#68513
Time: 29-Sep-2004 11:38 AM

I guess thats what we have to hope for? I hear people mentioning the glory that would be a Criterion release...but you know, I just dont think thats likely.

Post: #68511
Topic: Greedo
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68511/action/topic#68511
Time: 29-Sep-2004 11:36 AM

I cant believe thats canon now. A bounty hunter misses at point blank...talk about inefficiency. He was working for Jaba, perhaps he should have double checked his references...

Maybe they dont have a mandatory physical that would have revealed Greedo's glaring flaw - BLIND AS A "something blind"

Id say minoc (however thats spelled) but maybe they are like bats, and actually can see. Obviously StarWars.com folks cant see, or hear, or use any sort of logic - the last part is an effect that some might not think is directly related to having ones head firmly placed in GLs large ass. (But apparently...)

Post: #68508
Topic: Best Movie Endings
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68508/action/topic#68508
Time: 29-Sep-2004 11:29 AM

So as not be redundant (I agree with just about every movie stated above - THAT ive seen, thats not all of them haha)

Ill just add a few

-Waking Life
-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
-Lost in Translation
-Amadeus

Post: #68501
Topic: HERO
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68501/action/topic#68501
Time: 29-Sep-2004 11:23 AM

I think this was an amazing movie. However, I think that Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was better. And I get a lot of flak from people about that opinion, but whatever.
I think that Hero was truly amazing, but with the focus on more social elements. CTHD on the other hand was a bit more personal, and aimed at personal philosopy(Taoism, traditional Chinese religion, etc). After having some great discussions with people ive conceded that I gave both movies a perfect score. I think they are breathtaking pieces of art. In the end its a preference of subject matter, and also possibly my great respect for Chow Yun-Fat.

-Lethe

Post: #68499
Topic: Blade Runner DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68499/action/topic#68499
Time: 29-Sep-2004 11:19 AM

criterion LD version...dammit man, maybe I should have invested in an LD player those few years ago.

I also prefer the DC, but thats not to say that I dont appreciate the theatrical cut. I havent really heard much, but that news about Warner Bros. (thanks windexed) sounds very promising...at least in terms of having a better DVD around...the current one is deplorable.

-Lethe

Post: #68486
Topic: Class Action lawsuit?!?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68486/action/topic#68486
Time: 29-Sep-2004 11:08 AM

How do you get the number for that? Not that I looked, not even remotely...not even at all. Im sure if id look it wouldnt be hard to find. So if I call what do I say, "Hey, id like to report some misleading advertising!! I have about 40k people who think its misleading!!"

I wonder what they'd say? Lucas probobly bought them off long ago...

Post: #68483
Topic: Customized Tins/ Paul Champagne
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68483/action/topic#68483
Time: 29-Sep-2004 11:06 AM

LMAO jedi. Those jokes will never be un-funny.

p.s. TIN looks awesome, in RED I think. But I also think that white would be neat. I wonder how this is coming along, I would definitely be interested in one.

Post: #68478
Topic: The intelligence of SW Fan boys....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68478/action/topic#68478
Time: 29-Sep-2004 11:00 AM

While Im sure you dont generalize that everyone on this forum is a fanboy, I feel the need to make it clear that im not. However, I find myself in concurrance with these fanboys quite often.
Bizzle, as we deepened this conversation I see more and more about your argument that I agree with. I can really appreciate your perspective.

Where we still seem to disagree is on the topic of GL's obligations. Im not being a vindictive brat, he didnt "ruin my childhood," etc. Nonetheless, I feel that Lucas is indeed in debt to the Star Wars fanboys you speak of, as well as casual fans like myself. The position that he is currently in, to make these movies into whatever he would like (to complete them as he would have it), is soley the result of the fanbase created by the Original films. We can split hairs over this argument all day if you like...but I think you would have to concede, on some level, that this is accurate.
Dont get me wrong, Im not saying that they are our movies. Not by any means. And I dont really support the "re-visions" that fans have given the Prequels.
But I think that Lucas owes some level of respect to the fanbase. In an interview with EW I think, its been on another thread here, he is asked "whether or not he takes into consideration the opinions of fans when making these changes?" (My words). He responds "Not really, they are my movies, to do with what I like" (Again, my words, but the effect is accurate).

Now, Im not debating that with him, nor with you. They arent the fan's movies. But I think its silly of him to completely disregard the people who put him in the position he is in today.
This all goes without mentioning the other obligations I think he has, which I wont expand on as much. I believe he owes it to the entire community of film to preserve the originals the best way possible. Something as influential, and revolutionary as the o-OT should be around, for generations to come. (Oddly I was reflecting on a quote from the side of the 95 Faces Box Set, where it says something about "our children's children, blah blah" - another batch of wtf?)
There have been other suggested obligations, but I feel like they arent as defensible.

I really dont think we are at complete opposition Bizzle. Perhaps we just have a different point of view, and thats great. If all of us felt the same way about everything, a boring life it would be.

Back to topic, and in reply to R2s post. I really think you hit it on the head, about looking into things too much. I mean, im all for an intricate universe with all sorts of off-screen subplots. But thats all they are. Its glorified fan-fiction. Dont break your brain on it too much, its really not worth it.

Peace, Lethe

EDITED, FOR ONCE AGAIN I AM STRICKEN BY THE RARE DISEASE CSS - CANT SPELL SHIT.

Post: #68423
Topic: Class Action lawsuit?!?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68423/action/topic#68423
Time: 29-Sep-2004 8:12 AM

I think this is a pretty good point. Even if it just causes a recall of items currently on the shelves, and then a sticker has to be removed or affixed on later releases. It does get the information out there, and we do get to make a point. While it might be an insignificant cost to FOX, its still something. Not to mention that legally GL will have to give up his calling them "the classics" which is big moral victory for us.

Overall I think that if this happened, it would be positive for us. At least we might garner more support for the petition, etc. Get some more attention from FOX. Who knows?

Post: #68419
Topic: Watching with my fiancee
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68419/action/topic#68419
Time: 29-Sep-2004 8:06 AM

Id like to confer my congratulations as well Obi. There are few things in life as wonderful as a partner to share your greatest interests with.

I think this is a testament against the whole "nerds are always single, living in their mom's cellars" cliche. There seem to be a good number of "nerds" on the forum whom have wives or girlfriends. Its like a revolution in my mind.

Post: #68417
Topic: The intelligence of SW Fan boys....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68417/action/topic#68417
Time: 29-Sep-2004 8:00 AM

Bizzle, I can see that you put some thought into your posts. And I respect that. But I find I agree with Regicial - you are still missing some of the principle in the argument of this site.
The new versions are not AS GOOD as the originals - THAT IS a matter of opinion. But as you stated, the principal argument, the argument with the least grounds for refute, is simply that we want the Originals. And why not? (Like you said).
But I think you hasten over this point, and move on to saying that we should be able to appreciate the SEs on the same level. I dont think this works, not for me personally, and I can sense not for other people on this forum.
I have to go with Regicidal on this - its not rational to want to be respected when you are not first willing to respect.

Post: #67932
Topic: tr47 bootleg artwork help!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67932/action/topic#67932
Time: 27-Sep-2004 9:26 PM

I sure like those covers Rebel Rouser.

BTW pawnshopsign, the TR47s are awesome, no?

Post: #67886
Topic: Idea: About De-SEizing the DVDs... We need to Vote on Changes!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67886/action/topic#67886
Time: 27-Sep-2004 7:15 PM

1. Shiney
2. No darkened sky
3. Again, no
4. Im ok with these Dewbacks
5. Im ok with this shot of the Sandcrawler
6. No touched up Landspeeder
7. No new Obi-Wan hut shot
8. No Landspeeder touchups
9. No enhanced Mos Eisley shot
10. No digital speeder
11. No new Mos Eisley
12. No barking Dewback
13. Bring back the wolfman
14. No new Dewbacks
15. Han shoots first!!!
16. No digital droid
17. No digital air traffic
18. Remove the Jabba scene - DEFINITELY REMOVE, COMPLETELY
19. I dont mind this shot of the Falcon, I think its neat
20. No arching Falcon
21. I dont mind the explosions, but if it came to a vote, id vote KEEP THE OLD ONES.
22. I think this isnt very important, I like the TIE
23. No
24. No, a hallway's a hallway
25. No, maintain the old creature, and old colors
26. Leave the old
27. Keep this bit, it was in the OTR
28. NO, KEEP THE OLD ONES (except see below)
29. I dont mind this so much, when the shot is looking down the lightsaber it looks real weird, so the change is ok.
30. No
31. I dont mind this one
32. No
33. No
34. No
35. Yes, but only in its entirety - I agree
36. No
37. No
38. original - second this, KEEP ORIGINAL
39. No
40. I like the real people better
41. Obviously we need the OTR scene here, no "force ripples effecting the crystals in his lightsaber, etc" (thanks to the asshat starwars.com fanboys for that one (see the thread for laughs)
42. I dont think this is a very big deal, the only problem is you have to change the clock too for the Yavin approach - since we cant do that, I say leave the old and keep it consistent.

Thanks to Darth Justin for something I can copy/paste without pics, that was a big post anyways. Hal this is a great idea, I hope we really get a quality version out of this. Im awaiting the ESB changes.

ONE NOTE - we might want to stipulate that we have the old discussion between Tarkin and Leia, since the DVD versions have a weird audio level drop off, problem. Aside from that, this looks like a great list.

Post: #67927
Topic: The intelligence of SW Fan boys....
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67927/action/topic#67927
Time: 27-Sep-2004 3:15 PM

I guess I always assumed that the Empire monitored transmissions. And while, in effect, this wouldnt prevent the transmission, it would reveal the location of the resistance (on both ends of the transmission). That seems pretty dangerous, especially considering the near functionality of the Death Star.

Just a thought.

EDITED FOR MY LACK OF ABILITY TO SPELL.

Post: #67926
Topic: Posting stories here
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67926/action/topic#67926
Time: 27-Sep-2004 3:12 PM

Awesome. Well, I hope you keep chugging along with it. Im a writer myself, though I admit ive never tried to tackle a story longer than a few pages.

I eagerly await anything else you decide to share on the forum.

Post: #67925
Topic: Does this make sense?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67925/action/topic#67925
Time: 27-Sep-2004 3:10 PM

Psh, of course Vader was lying to the emperor...Palpatine was so weak, and naive with the force that he wouldnt have had the slightest clue...</sarcasm>

I think its obvious that if Vader was going to deceive anyone it was Luke, but he underestimated him. Anyone who thinks that Vader was lying to his master at THIS juncture, get your head checked.

Post: #67923
Topic: Watching with my fiancee
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/67923/action/topic#67923
Time: 27-Sep-2004 3:06 PM

Thanks starkiller, I have to admit that I thought you were calling me out or something. Im glad that ended up not being the case.

It just dawned on me, if that were the case you'd have been defending jimbo. Now thats not to say that nobody on the forum would defend jimbo, but I should have thought about that before making a conclusion.