imperialscum said:
I agree that the thread should not get locked. It was the most fun thread at the moment.
Truth
OBI-WAN37 said:
Someone asked me in the "sick of prequel bashing" thread why I think the prequels are good films. Here is why: they are just as moving and fun, if not more so, than the Original trilogy.
I would be interested in hearing all of the reasons why you think the prequels are just as moving and as fun, if not more so, than the Original Trilogy. Please list your reasons so we can discuss them.
I would be interested in learning in what ways you think Clones and Wars are alike.
OBI-WAN37 said:
KilroyMcFadden said:
OBI-WAN37 said:
This thread is getting out of hand. People seem to be making violent threats. That's serious.
Gold. :D
No no no no no..... you're mistaken.... that's a quote (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quote). This is gold:(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold).
Oh, and for reference, this is the average person like yourself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_(geology))
Again. Gold. this is why I enjoy reading this thread. The broken links are just icing on the comedy cake.
OBI-WAN37 said:
This thread is getting out of hand. People seem to be making violent threats. That's serious.
Gold. :D
OBI-WAN37 said:
KilroyMcFadden said:
Some say "Prequel Hater" some say "Film Lover" You are participating in a forum that attracts people who have some technical interest in restoring, or at a minimum, watching Star Wars movies that are not George Lucas's version of the Star Wars universe. As the other trilogy represents the pinnacle of what at least a few of us think went wrong with the Star Wars universe, at least a few of us simply aren't going to agree with you unless you can convince us why and how we are wrong.
Merely saying, "Everything is awesome" isn't a way to convince me nor I suspect is it a way to convince many of the people who hang out here.
OBI-WAN37, my interpretation of why the thread is still open is because you are fun and mostly harmless. For me, It's light entertainment to come here to see what kind of zaniness you've cooked up each day. If this thread does get the TFN treatment, I certainly hope you declare some other piece of non-defensible opinion in some new thread so we can go there for an occasional smile
Ummm.... okay that's kind of weird entertainment but... thanks....
It's not weird to enjoy something ironically. You function as a little piece of transplanted TFN prequel forum that randomly regurgitates hilarious TFN sounding things right here just for our private enjoyment without having to leave OT.com!
Some say "Prequel Hater" some say "Film Lover" You are participating in a forum that attracts people who have some technical interest in restoring, or at a minimum, watching Star Wars movies that are not George Lucas's version of the Star Wars universe. As the other trilogy represents the pinnacle of what at least a few of us think went wrong with the Star Wars universe, at least a few of us simply aren't going to agree with you unless you can convince us why and how we are wrong.
Merely saying, "Everything is awesome" isn't a way to convince me nor I suspect is it a way to convince many of the people who hang out here.
OBI-WAN37, my interpretation of why the thread is still open is because you are fun and mostly harmless. For me, It's light entertainment to come here to see what kind of zaniness you've cooked up each day. If this thread does get the TFN treatment, I certainly hope you declare some other piece of non-defensible opinion in some new thread so we can go there for an occasional smile
Yeah!
A flying astromech...
He is pretty focused on the reward. He mentions it 3 of the 6 times it's mentioned in the movie. I wonder if there is some sort of character driven reason for that?
vacuum said:
funny that the prequels aren't rated that badly by most critics. in video review books they're usually rated well.
The actual ratings are not completely horrible, coming in at the 67% mark, but once you start actually reading those "positive" reviews...
"Lucas has never been able to conjure another Han Solo, a character who could, with simply a wink, remind us that this was just an overgrown Saturday afternoon serial."
"A commendable example of the sort of movie we once loved and then outgrew."
"The scale of the enterprise is thrilling; it's too bad the movie is so muddled on so many different levels."
"Though, lacking in plotline it makes up for in action and entertainment."
"Lucas does not always recognize his limitations. This tends to make films of mixed quality. Still, there is always enough that is excellent to make them worth seeing."
"While it lacks the quality of Empire's script and performances, Clones is the most visually enthralling of the series so far."
"The critics that actually didn't like the PT were a bit more harsh.
Ah... Seagoat.
I noticed that your thread got locked over at TFN after two pages.
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/sick-of-prequel-bashing.50017795/
Were they able to offer you any insight into how to cope with the "bashers" at OT.com?
Putting aside that they are totally without credibility. Latino Review comes up with some amazing ideas!
OBI-WAN37 said:
No, I just don't see it. I don't know why so many of the original-trilogy-fans tend to hate the prequels. I guess it's just a cultural phenomena. I love the prequels.
I don't know if it's accurate to say that it's just original trilogy fans that hate the prequels. When you use the phrase "Prequels" it seems like most people know that you're not referring to "Rise of the Lycans", "Scorpion King", or "Monsters U" They seem to know that you're talking about the Star Wars PT. It also seems like the term "Prequels" has become a societal shorthand for a type of bad movie making that has transcended normal bad movie making.
When I tell a friend that a movie was "prequel bad", even if that friend has not actually viewed the PT him or her self, they are still cognizant of what I mean, without my having to say another word.
Regardless of the esteem in which you hold them, and there is nothing wrong with that, the PT is not gaining a following as it ages... except within that circle of people who enjoy taking the piss out of them.
OBI-WAN37 said:
I was just about to get a possible answer to my arguments I made in the three posts just before yours. And, although I'm not totally sure this is by coincidence, someone always seems to prevent a direct response from coming from an OT fan after his argument is challenged well, whether it's the OT fan making the argument or someone who's watching, and this seems to be one of those times. So, I'm asking as politely as possible, can any of the individual posters I was responding to please give me a response to the response I gave them in any of my previous three posts?
Please mention your arguments one by one so that they are clear to everyone.
The bottom line for me is that the PT is just George Lucas's version of Darth Vader's back story. It's not the only version, it's by no means the best version, and it's certainly not the version on which I'm raising my child.
Furthermore, the PT is only tangentially related to the OT. It is not important to the story of how the Rebellion defeated the Empire or how Luke redeemed Vader.
I can appreciate that you really like the PT, but to me, it's Star Wars in name only. The way I see it, some really rich out of touch guy, basically made a mediocre fan film that you seem to prefer.
The CPY fan club? tell me more!
OBI-WAN37 said:
...and the way Palpatine manipulates anakin into doing so is so cool, especially in episode III when you're just watching and thinking, "no, don't turn to the dark side",...
Are you sure you don't mean... "
, don't turn to the darkside!"?
Is this
Already a discussion somewhere?
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
Did Lucas intend the Jedi to be so stupid in the prequels or is Lucas himself actually as stupid as they are?
The prequels are a shrine of stupidity.
My theory is that George Lucas is a genius who got really sick of fanboys, so he set out deliberately to ruin Star Wars... first with the SE, and then with the PT.
...He would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling fan-edits.
Let the angsty canon wars begin. One poster has already suggested that there may be suicides.
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/disney-throwing-out-the-eu.50017636/
Is there a thread at OT.com just for keeping up with the TFN melodrama?
I'm not going to walk out. This time I'm going to wait 6 months and find out if it sucks before watching it. Not going to get fooled again.
Tobar said:
I don't know how you came that conclusion. But instead of trying to dissect the article I'll just post the following twitter conversation with one of the men in charge of Star Wars canon:
@A_Targaryen 6 Jan
@HolocronKeeper will the new Marvel Star Wars comics be considered canon or they could still be contradicted by the movies and tv shows?
@HolocronKeeper 6 Jan
@A_Targaryen Story Group has a hand in all facets of Star Wars storytelling, including movies, TV, games, and publishing.
@12MG12 6 Jan
@HolocronKeeper @StephenVincent Are you implying that the goal is to dispose of the hierarchy and have one cohesive canon?
@HolocronKeeper 6 Jan
@12MG12 @StephenVincent That's definitely a primary goal of the Story Group.
ffs. The EU is just glorified fanfic. They should just put out the licenses and let people write what they will. because of LFL's tremendous missteps with this franchise, I already, (and I bet I'm not alone,) determine what is "canon" to me.*
*Which is why Splinter is a fever dream Luke has after conking his head on an overhang after battling Vader in the cave on Dagobah and is therefore included in my canon.
Of all of the things about the EU that I hate, I hate the melodrama the most. Drama doesn't have to be cheesy.