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#1636558
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It's Not a Trap! - Calling all Admiral Ackbars!
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Bored at 3AM said:

I remember reading that there was a female pilot as well in that battle, but they were edited out because Lucas didn’t think America was ready to see women die in battle. Is there any footage of that available?

They shot quite a few female pilots, and one is actually in the film redubbed as a man: “Red 3” who gets blown up by two interceptors. I frankly don’t think the redub had anything to do with “watching a woman die in battle”, but rather the rushed state of Jedi’s production. (If you see the original footage it’s obvious that all of it was going to be redubbed.)

Here’s some of the female pilots footage: https://youtu.be/806P_lVgPM8?si=GmzCwY5wYZ0bq34t

I haven’t seen any color prints of the female pilots, because if I had, I would have found a way to cut “grandma” in, lol!

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#1635986
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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jkimm said:

JoyOfEditing said:

O00ll00O said:

Just wait til we get to the Arena Battle. It’s gonna be Force Mad!

I know you said it’s something that you’re really proud of, so I can’t wait to see it!

FYI It’s live: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C-UtrN7ew7RJ46eIARA26fIql07RbBKF/view?usp=drive_link

I really like the pacing of the arena battle. Of course, I had to take a crack at it. Same order as yours but Anakin and Padme don’t ride the chariot (horrible sfx) and Dooku doesn’t stop the battle. Just about every scene has some type of trim.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19LF-MApgyiPyhRYUuEIE5UCClEeZ_q3w/view?usp=sharing

Awesome! I’ll take a good look at it tomorrow. In the meantime, you can tell me everything I did wrong over here 😉: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Its-Not-a-Trap-Calling-all-Admiral-Ackbars-/id/129423/page/1#1635984

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#1635907
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It's Not a Trap! - Calling all Admiral Ackbars!
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.Mac. said:

Absolutely loved this, Joy! Very interested in seeing how this goes.

Also, couldn’t help but wonder what the Mon Calamari would possibly be saying to himself right after each kill.

“That was a trap.”

“That was a trap.”

“Heh, he fell for that trap!”
😄

“Wedge, why is Red 2 flying a Y-Wing?”

Wedge: “If I let Fadlan fly an X-Wing, there’d be War Crimes.”

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#1635905
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It's Not a Trap! - Calling all Admiral Ackbars!
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.Mac. said:

Absolutely loved this, Joy! Very interested in seeing how this goes.

Also, couldn’t help but wonder what the Mon Calamari would possibly be saying to himself right after each kill.

“That was a trap.”

“That was a trap.”

“Heh, he fell for that trap!”
😄

Imperial Fleet moves in to attack

Capt. Fadlan: “Got 'em right where I want 'em!”

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#1635904
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It's Not a Trap! - Calling all Admiral Ackbars!
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G&G-Fan said:

Honestly I unironically support edits that add even more alien presence to Star Wars. I think it’s cool. This is a galaxy full of different sentient alien species, they shouldn’t be regarded as looney tunes characters.

Bro, no joke when I posted this last night, I was thinking to myself this might be something G&G will unironically enjoy!

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#1635622
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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Phase3 said:

JoyOfEditing said:

O00ll00O said:

Just wait til we get to the Arena Battle. It’s gonna be Force Mad!

I know you said it’s something that you’re really proud of, so I can’t wait to see it!

FYI It’s live: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C-UtrN7ew7RJ46eIARA26fIql07RbBKF/view?usp=drive_link

That looks great, and flows very nicely!
Would you want a clip to correct the continuity error of Ki-Adi-Mundi’s Lightsaber changing colour? In the film it goes from blue, to green, then back to blue. I can send you a clip where it stays blue the whole time if you like?

“Do it.”

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#1635270
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It's Not a Trap! - Calling all Admiral Ackbars!
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Some of y’all are probably aware that footage was shot of Alien Pilots for RotJ during production. I was bored the other day, and decided to see if I could cut some of those pilots into the space battle as a joke. . . It worked far better than I expected. . . I ended up using the Sullustan Pilot as Blade Leader and was able to turn “Red 2” into a Mon Calamari Pilot with an absurd kill count.

Here’s a WIP of the Alien Pilots in context with the beginnings of Phase3’s restoration of the unused footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNbINBT88XY

I was able to create some good dialogue for the Sullustan Pilot from scraps of Nien Nunb’s VO from Battlefront 1, but I need to redub the Mon Calamari Pilot with VO that sounds well. . . a little more Mon-Cal than Simon Williamson.

If anyone does an Adimral Ackbar impression (It doesn’t need to be dead on, because the Pilot is a different character), and wants to redub Simon’s lines for fun, shot me a PM. I find real VO is always much more fun than AI.

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#1635227
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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jkimm said:

JoyOfEditing said:

jkimm said:

Adding in Padme and Typho being thrown definitely works better for the reasons you mentioned. I didn’t even notice it was cut originally. 😄 Removing the Palpatine bit to Yoda is a nice call. Makes him come across as being more confident now.

I’m a little torn about the droid factory sequence. The last bit where Anakin slices the robot arm to make the cauldron fall still doesn’t connect for me. I messed around with it some more and am curious what you think of these changes?

• Kept the cut between Anaking slicing geonosian in half and Padme navigating through machinery. This keeps the action going from left to right and fixes the abrupt music change.

• Kept shot of Anakin looking up when Padme is being taken away in cauldron.

• Insert brief shot of cauldron moving along to further sell what Anakin is looking at.

• Insert different shot of Padme looking up in the cauldron.

• Reinsert Anakin force throwing objects at geonosians and added thud sound fx when they get hit.

• Anakin jumps up to higher platform and uses force to unhook the cauldron. Only problem is the same force shot is used twice. Still need to find a fix.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M3I3ybJ2-Ac0EPGf4hLaFmZ1yKE4euh_/view?usp=sharing

Yeah, I’m with you that the Force move on the Vat lands with way more punch, and I like a lot of the minor tweaks. I don’t worry too much about “abrupt music changes” as long as they aren’t distracting. There are quite a few “abrupt changes” in the Vanilla cut that are waaayyyy more abrupt than mine, lol! But I’ll see if I can clean that exchange up a bit. I think the “Perfect Version” is somewhere halfway between both of ours. . . Imma think about it and do another take.

In the meantime, I’m rendering out the Arena Battle for you to chew on. Stand by.

YES!!!

Aight. It’s uploading. About an hour from now it should be live at this link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-GJ1VlEvPO5XlQALDODDeZdWrGEH_ZHP?usp=sharing

You’ll know which one it is 😉

UPDATE: It’s live.

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#1635222
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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jkimm said:

Adding in Padme and Typho being thrown definitely works better for the reasons you mentioned. I didn’t even notice it was cut originally. 😄 Removing the Palpatine bit to Yoda is a nice call. Makes him come across as being more confident now.

I’m a little torn about the droid factory sequence. The last bit where Anakin slices the robot arm to make the cauldron fall still doesn’t connect for me. I messed around with it some more and am curious what you think of these changes?

• Kept the cut between Anaking slicing geonosian in half and Padme navigating through machinery. This keeps the action going from left to right and fixes the abrupt music change.

• Kept shot of Anakin looking up when Padme is being taken away in cauldron.

• Insert brief shot of cauldron moving along to further sell what Anakin is looking at.

• Insert different shot of Padme looking up in the cauldron.

• Reinsert Anakin force throwing objects at geonosians and added thud sound fx when they get hit.

• Anakin jumps up to higher platform and uses force to unhook the cauldron. Only problem is the same force shot is used twice. Still need to find a fix.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M3I3ybJ2-Ac0EPGf4hLaFmZ1yKE4euh_/view?usp=sharing

Yeah, I’m with you that the Force move on the Vat lands with way more punch, and I like a lot of the minor tweaks. I don’t worry too much about “abrupt music changes” as long as they aren’t distracting. There are quite a few “abrupt changes” in the Vanilla cut that are waaayyyy more abrupt than mine, lol! But I’ll see if I can clean that exchange up a bit. I think the “Perfect Version” is somewhere halfway between both of ours. . . Imma think about it and do another take.

In the meantime, I’m rendering out the Arena Battle for you to chew on. Stand by.

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#1634733
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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jkimm said:

100% on the way you’re handling the politics of Attack of the Clones. The inclusion of Phase3’s deleted scenes work really well. Of course, I had to attempt some additional trimming to both scenes.

Intro
• Cut enthusiastic “we made it”
• Cut decoy and Padme dialogue
• Tiny trims here and there

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18zumkxyzy44pru49Yc69FLBErRZrdGL_/view?usp=sharing

Factory
• Cut sequence between Anaking slicing geonosian in half and Padme navigating through machinery
• Insert shot of Anakin looking up when Padme is being taken away in cauldron
• Remove Anakin using force to throw objects at geonosians
• Add Anakin chopping geonosian and then using force to unlatch cauldron

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UkJpyZpclH_eiu-EWQTkKwU6L3gmjUwr/view?usp=sharing

Thoughts?

UPDATE: I’ve uploaded new versions of each sequence.

Here’s Sequence 1 (Bomb-Padme Addresses the Senate-Palptine’s Office): https://drive.google.com/file/d/14M7QuUx_Nmql8iYmG5aa_e2P8nAl-KBZ/view?usp=drive_link

-I Slightly tweaked your change, by adding back in Padme and Typho being thrown by the blast. I think that change adds a bit more context, and a bit more Ooomph to the blast, while still achieving the change you’re going for. Other than that I just went with your changes! GREAT WORK! So much better.

-I also made a small change to the scene in Palpatine’s Office. I cut the bit where Palpy asks Yoda, “Do you really think it will come to war?” right after he just said that his “Negotiations Will Not Fail.” . . . A bit double minded if you ask me. . .

And Here’s Sequence 2 (Droid Factory-Dooku’s Interrogation-Emergency Powers): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yvbmct2jlqnUbwIEHE7nDCzEN-KZvlu8/view?usp=drive_link

-For this one I completely reworked the end of the Droid Factory to take advantage our your idea for Anakin looking up as Padme is taken away in the vat. I’m MUCH happier with this version, but you’ll have to let me know what you think.

Keep the suggestions coming 😉

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#1634510
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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jkimm said:

100% on the way you’re handling the politics of Attack of the Clones. The inclusion of Phase3’s deleted scenes work really well. Of course, I had to attempt some additional trimming to both scenes.

Intro
• Cut enthusiastic “we made it”
• Cut decoy and Padme dialogue
• Tiny trims here and there

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18zumkxyzy44pru49Yc69FLBErRZrdGL_/view?usp=sharing

Factory
• Cut sequence between Anaking slicing geonosian in half and Padme navigating through machinery
• Insert shot of Anakin looking up when Padme is being taken away in cauldron
• Remove Anakin using force to throw objects at geonosians
• Add Anakin chopping geonosian and then using force to unlatch cauldron

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UkJpyZpclH_eiu-EWQTkKwU6L3gmjUwr/view?usp=sharing

Thoughts?

I was counting down to one of y’all sending in some revisions on those, lol!

Once again great cutting, I think all of those changes work!

In the case of the Bomb scene I think I’m gonna change my edit to something close to what you have. I tried both of those changes but never at the same time, so it always felt off (Quick-to-Slow and Slow-to-Quick), but your Quick-Quick sets the scene in superb timing to my mind. Excellent work!

On the Droid Factory, I think it definitely works (Your cut is pretty similar to Hal-9000’s, if you’ve seen it), but I would personally stick closer to what I have mainly due to the Meta-Pacing I’m going for (My AotC clocks in at just over 90 minutes, so I need to use as much good footage as I can). I also really like my extended action intro/outro of Anakin being a Jedi boss, because of what it does for his character, but again that’s all down to taste. The one change in that sequence that I’m gonna try to implement is the way you have Anakin look up at Padme being carried away. That is a fantastic bridge cut!

Keep up the great work, I’ve been really enjoying these!

UPDATE: I messed around with both of these sequences and ended up making a bunch of changes. I don’t have time to render them out tonight, but in the next day or so, I’ll re-render them so you can see them. Your change to the Droid Factory gave me an idea that made the end SO MUCH BETTER! Thanks buddy!

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#1634453
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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BedeHistory731 said:

JoyOfEditing said:

Okay first off, I need to know the story behind your username. Anyone whose username references one of the greatest tomes to come out of the twin monasteries of Monkwearmouth-Jarrow, must have an extreme amount of class.

That was an outgrowth of a medieval manuscripts class I took in college. The name really appealed to me and I’ve been rocking it ever since.

To your Jedi question, the answer to that is blasphemous. . . You have to cut Boba Fett out of the fight, because if you do, suddenly everything works. It turns out the main villain of the Sail Barge should have been the bro with the deck gun, because he ties together Luke’s swashbuckling and Han’s skiff sinking together like a bow.

That’s exactly the kind of change I was thinking of to improve the scene. Cutting Boba out focuses the action a lot more.

I also studied ol’ Bede in college and for some dang reason took two full courses on Old English literature. What was I thinking!?! . . . Ironically, those classes really helped me recut George’s films, because he borrows quite a few tricks from the Anglo-Saxons.

I love Boba Fett, but it’s Luke Skywalker’s movie. If you cut that sequencce you get three benefits: Luke looks like Obi-Wan from the Prequels, Han is suddenly back to his Empire/A New Hope form, and Boba Fett survives the Sarlaac Battle. . . is it too late to reshoot the Book of Boba Fett? It is. . . dang it!

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#1634351
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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G&G-Fan said:

I don’t agree that ROTJ is the “first Prequel”. It’s different from the other two OT movies, but not any more then ANH and ESB are different, and it’s closer to those then the Prequels. It’s character-focused rather than plot-focused, the plot isn’t as convoluted as the Prequels, it’s methodically yet effectively paced (IMO), the visuals are far more prettier, and the writing is clear and well-articulated where it needs to be and subtle where it needs to be, unlike the Prequels where it’s often either muddy and messy or on-the-nose.

I find it interesting that Hal said that, since he didn’t make an edit of it in the same vein as his Prequels.

I think Hal and I are coming from a technical standpoint. (If I remember that Hal post correctly, he was saying Jedi is his favorite). When you crack open these films as an editor, you see them completely differently than you do when you’re experiencing them as a viewer. From an experiencial standpoint, I 100% agree with you (I like the Theatrical Cut of RotJ WAY better than any of the Prequels because it’s tone much closer to IV and V), but from a technical editing standpoint Jedi is closer to the Prequels than it is to IV and V.

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#1634330
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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So at least for this nerf herder, I might prefer an edit that doesn’t remove nearly as much (and that’s coming from someone who’s actually okay with excising existing shots/scenes [within reason of course, lol]) as I’d want certain scenes to have both flow and still make enough sense for a first-time viewer - even if it might mean keeping some of the flaws (and that’s where Ady often applies his magical brush at concealing much of that!). Otherwise, I still very much enjoyed this, Joy! Thank you for sharing it and I’m sure Ady will see something in there that works for his vision 😉 I look forward to seeing more of your clips!

And Joy, if you’re at all interested and have plenty of free time (emphasis on “plenty”), I invite you to take a gander through my ROTJ wishlist. There you can see much of my thoughts regarding ROTJ and understand my take on certain scenes (including what I think can be deleted/trimmed) and, who knows, perhaps there’s something in there you’ll like for your future editing 😃

Haha, I totally get y’all’s concerns on the pacing/lack of setup. I think the thing to keep in mind with my cuts are that I’m doing all six of Georges films at the same time to align all of them, so the Jabba setup has already happened in the Phantom Menace’s Podrace scene. I also MASSIVELY reworked Dagobah in Empire, so that the single scene of Yoda’s Death would make sense in Jedi (I’m trying to do a Dark Crystal style setup where the first scene sets up the Emperor, and the second scene is the death of the eldest mystic (Yoda)). Because you’ve seen so much of Yoda in the Prequels, and you know from the Prequels that Vader is Luke’s daddy, you don’t need the bit where Yoda confirms this (I’m pretty sure that scene was put into Vanilla Jedi because so many folks were convinced Vader was lying at the end of Empire). In short, the Yoda scene doesn’t feel too short in the scale of the full saga, but it would be WAY too short/unsatisfying, if you don’t have the Prequels.

FYI I was never actually arguing that Ady should use my recut for his version of Jedi (I don’t think it will match at all with the other two, lol). I was just trying to give an example of how you can indeed effectively start on Dagobah, if you want to. 😉

I don’t have a ton of free time at the moment, but go on you can PM me anyway. I just can’t promise that I’ll look it over in a timely manner.

As far as Jedi being the best of all six, I know that sounds ridiculous, but I think you can actually get it pretty stinking close to the level of VI and V, with the just the material from the Vanilla Cut. If you wanna see more of that, I’d hop over to my thread (right now we’re talking Attack of the Clones, but we’ll eventually get to recutting the Sail Barge, the Final Duel, and other cool Jedi stuff, and I really don’t wanna sidetrack Ady’s thread down a rabbit hole, haha!).

Cheers!

-JoE

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#1634218
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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Okay y’all time to talk some Politics!

The Politics of Attack of the Clones are pretty convoluted in the Vanilla Cut. My theory is that George was working from two or three different ideas for the political landscape and never landed on one, so we ended up with several of these conflicting visions fighting each other.

To me the way to fix it is incredible simple: Padme doesn’t want a war, The Jedi don’t have an opinion, The Trade Federation wants a war, and Count Dooku/Palpatine are working together to engineer a war from both sides.

The war might start because a pacifist Senator (Padme) is assassinated (since she can no longer lead the opposition), or the war might start because the pacifist Senator is removed from the capital for her own safety, or the war might start because detective Obi-Wan uncovers the Seperatist Plot, or the war might start because Arch Duke Poggle the Lesser decides to execute a group of Republic Political Prisoners, or the war might start because a Gungan Senator hates the Trade Federation because of what they did to his homeworld (This is why you don’t need Palpatine to tempt Jar-Jar, and you can cut the scene where Padme leaves Jar Jar in charge. Once Jar Jar finds out from Obi-Wan that the Trade Federation are building a secret army, OF COURSE he’s gonna argue that the Chancellor from his homeworld should be given the emergency powers necessary to stop them.)

If you think of it this way, Dooku and Palpatine don’t have a set “plan” to start the war, rather they are crafting the specific conditions for a war to break out. To make that work you only have to make two changes: First we have to cut the scene where Dooku interogates Obi-Wan, because it never did, and it never will make any sense. Dooku has so little screen time that he needs to stay a one-dimensional baddie for the sake of this film’s clarity. Secondly, we have to cut the Nute Gunray “Head on my desk” subplot, and restructure that scene so that Dooku is using the Trade Federation’s willingness to join the Separatist cause as a selling point to recruit the Bank Clan, Techno Union, and so on. . . The other benefit of cutting the Gunray subplot, is that now we have no idea who ordered the hit on Padme. It quite possibly could be Palpatine who is growing tired of her efforts to stop the war from starting. If you assume that, the whole argument over the extra security takes on a new meaning, because Padme’s tense look at the Chancellor may now mean, “You may not have ordered the hit, but you sure are benefitting from it. . .”

BUT! Now we have a big problem! The two scenes that make this entire story work were deleted: Padme’s Address to the Senate, and Count Dooku’s Interogation of Anakin and Padme.

BUT THERE’S GOOD NEWS!!! The Wonder from Down Under, Phase3 has managed some upscale wizardry and restored those scenes as far as humanly possible, and now I present to you those two scenes restored and in context (I’ve added the scene before and the scene after both deleted scenes, so y’all can see how they work within the natural flow of the film).

Scene 1 [Padme Addresses the Senate]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wPY5iDlp3LuX9Zfn96XoFDXHWW3BVjtK/view?usp=sharing

Scene 2 [Count Dooku Interogates Padme and Anakin]: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bhwsKZK-S643nxx76z4N-ZFgsFmRK8oJ/view?usp=sharing

Everyone give Phase3 a huge round of applause! The lad deserves it!

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#1634208
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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I’m glad you enjoyed that, it’s a funny little video I made, I love chaotic absurdism. I love Walking with Dinosaurs so much, it’s my favorite piece of media after the Original Star Wars Trilogy.
I made a two part video essay about WWD. And a video essay about ROTJ (also had to be split in two). If you’re interested.

Watched the first part of your Jedi Review and really enjoyed it! Great work!

Have you ever seen the BBC version of Conan Doyle’s “Lost World” (I’m sure you have)? My favorite thing about that EXCELLENT series is that they reused all the dino models from Walking With Dinosaurs. In my head, I can see some BBC executive leaning back in his chair saying, “So we paid all this money to bring these dinosaurs to life and you just want to make an Attenborough special?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXwsTDmniPM

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#1634205
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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BedeHistory731 said:

I’m curious how you’ll handle the Sail Barge battle, as I’ve never been particularly keen on how it’s structured in the movie.

Okay first off, I need to know the story behind your username. Anyone whose username references one of the greatest tomes to come out of the twin monasteries of Monkwearmouth-Jarrow, must have an extreme amount of class.

To your Jedi question, the answer to that is blasphemous. . . You have to cut Boba Fett out of the fight, because if you do, suddenly everything works. It turns out the main villain of the Sail Barge should have been the bro with the deck gun, because he ties together Luke’s swashbuckling and Han’s skiff sinking together like a bow.

If you make that major change and recut the fight choreography to match the Prequels (think the Arena Battle), suddenly the sequence turns into the STAR WARS version of Errol Flynn’s “Robin Hood” in the best way possible.

Sadly, my cut of that sequence (And most of my Return of the Jedi), were destroyed when my copy of Adobe Premiere gained sentience and began deleting footage of its own accord. But not to worry, it will be rebuilt by the end of this year, and if you remind me in a few months I’ll probably have that sequence ready.

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#1634186
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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Phase3 said:

O00ll00O said:
The only shot that looks a little off to me is the shot of Obi-Wan hopping off the little ship ramp, to be followed by the next frame where they’re both in different spots (due to cutting out Padme’s little blurp about getting a transport). How do you think it looks without the little ramp hop? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UV6fCLpxe9O_tQ3mfAJgCCbVlsPYF85y/view?usp=sharing

That is such a great cut! I am going to revisit my own AOTC edit, and incorporate many of the changes shown in this thread!

Just wait til we get to the Arena Battle. It’s gonna be Force Mad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJdb59IuHU

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#1634182
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New YouTube Series about recutting George's STAR WARS SAGA.
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O00ll00O said:

JoyOfEditing said:

O00ll00O said:

I like the structure of your opening. The sequencing is vastly different in comparison to the original, but it makes a lot of sense.

I actually attempted to make an edit inside your edit. This is the first cut I’ve ever done, so let me know your thoughts. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y5ZUOb6-XaXDjLtnVwtdiNBEZeFayocU/view?usp=sharing

-Start the music a beat after 3P0 says “he agrees!”. I think that feels closer to the atmosphere of the cantina when everyone abruptly moves on after a conflict is settled. It’s also a little more chaotic with Chewy trying to yell over the music.
-Remove Landos helmet bonk on the ceiling
-Remove how long the shot of Lando pulling down his mask is. It’s way to in your face.

Yo! I really like your recut! Great job! It just goes to show you there are 100s of good ways to skin a cat.

I quite like the way you cut around the Chewie sequence. It’s very effective at getting rid of the helmet bonk, and the music cut is pretty smooth.

For my cut I would stick with what I have on all of those points, for sequence balancing reasons (if you pop up to #1633920 on this thread, I explain how that kind of editing works in detail). The back half of that Jabba sequence, I’m trying to throttle down the pace in order to move into a more contemplative Dagobah scene, so the helmet bonk (while a bit goofy), gives me the meta-pace I’m looking for. As a side note. . . I’m almost convinced George worked in a helmet bonk into all six of his films. . . I don’t know where they all are, but there are so many of them, I’m starting to think it turned into an intentional running gag by the time we get to the Prequels (See the Jango Fett bonk on Kamino).

Last thing: (Brace yourself this is gonna be super pedantic) The reason I personally wouldn’t tighten up the music cue the way you did, is because a Jazz (Jizz?) song of that type starts with a silent count, because the opening notes begin before the first “1”. So instead of “1-2-3-4-Bummmm-budum-budum-bum-bum” (Jedi Rocks from the Special Edition), it’s “1-2-3-(4)budum-(1)BumBum”. If you watch Max Rebo’s hand, he’s doing the silent count so the band can start on “4”. The silent beat that you cut is the beginning of the silent count. Basically, there’s no way a real musician could start that song as quickly as you cut it and have everybody come in on time.

PS Thank you mom for all of those stupid Clarinet lessons in High School. . .

I appreciate all the helpful feedback, thank you! And hey maybe just add a helmet bonk sound like in ANH:SE and lean in to it lol

Your updated AOTC Dooku fight is so much more menacing and quick paced. He’s an experienced Jedi master who’s tapped in to the dark side, and your cut gives that feeling much more naturally. The only shot that looks a little off to me is the shot of Obi-Wan hopping off the little ship ramp, to be followed by the next frame where they’re both in different spots (due to cutting out Padme’s little blurp about getting a transport). How do you think it looks without the little ramp hop? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UV6fCLpxe9O_tQ3mfAJgCCbVlsPYF85y/view?usp=sharing

The reason I’m pretty sure the helmet bonking is intentional, is the gratuitous CGI Jango Fett head bonk when he boards the Slave I in AotC. That SFX was really annoying to scrub.

HOLY FENCING INSTRUCTOR! That Dooku cut is sick!!! I tried so many times to find an elegant fix for that stupid ramp hop, and it turns out there was a beautiful match cut staring me right in the face. . . Fantastic work, bro! I’m adding that tweak to my cut, and the old link now has the version with your change: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-GJ1VlEvPO5XlQALDODDeZdWrGEH_ZHP?usp=sharing

Between the 10 of us, I think we finally cut an epic version of my least favorite duel.

Keep up the great work!

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G&G-Fan said:

JoyOfEditing said:

Hey y’all! In response to a question posed on Adywan’s RotJ Thread about how easy/hard it is for Luke to start on Dagobah, and then go to Tatooine, I posted a link to my version of the opening of RotJ. It seems like some of y’all wanna talk about it, so I’m reposting it here so we don’t derail Ady’s Thread.

Link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EleIyLvBBrk-D8zN9zy23NJhEeg6FMcs?usp=sharing

Enjoy!

-JoE

Why delete Vader’s line, “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them”? It’s a great way of showing his ruthlessness towards his own men.

And the replacement of low-angle shot of Vader walking down the shuttle is really odd to me. That is one of the most badass shots of Vader, powerful and menacing. It’s one of the reasons his entrance in ROTJ is my favorite. Why replace it with the boring long shot from the ESB SE?

. . . Is this the part where I tell you Vader never kills any of his own men in my cut. . . 😉

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD CATCH THAT SHOT SWITCHEROO!!! The basic logic is this. I want that scene to focus on the Empire’s unpreparedness to face the Rebel Fleet, and the coming showdown with the Emperor, which means that Vader’s inherent awesomeness needs to take a back seat for that specific scene. In other scenes like the scene where the shuttle Tyderium “sneaks” past the Imperial Fleet, I recut that sequence entirely from Vader’s perspective, to focus on how perceptive he is in the Force, and in all of the fights scenes I made Vader infinitely more lethal, because the original fight choreography was. . . well. . . lacking in that department.

So the basic answer to your question is that in all my scene cuts I try to realign the “focus” to the primary point of that scene, which sometimes means cutting one of the greatest Vader shots of all time, and switching it with a lamer shot of him rushing down the gangway to emphasis the Empire’s growing weakness. (Essentially it’s visually showing the dramatic power shift that’s happened since Vader blasted his way onto the Blockade Runner in IV. The Rebels are no longer a couple X-Wings and a lucky torpedo, that Fleet massing near Sullust is now a force to be reckoned with.) It’s okay I know the sin I committed is unforgivable. 😃

On a completely different note, is your YouTube name “Lord Vader Tyrannus”? If so, I stumbled on your “Ornithocheirus ASMR” video and laughed sooooo hard! I miss Walking with Dinosaurs sooooo much!!! The newer series just didn’t hit the same way.