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#155746
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My idea for the Star Wars TV show
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/155746/action/topic#155746
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Here's my premise for the show: it takes place half way between Sith and Star Wars. The show follows a group of flamboyant men who make it their mission to give Obiwan and Yoda some company during their solutude. They also realize that when they get there, both Jedi look like crap and live in two of the ugliest, boring and plain houses they have ever seen. They realize that both of them need a personal and home makeover. The name of this show? Queer Eye for the Jedi. Hehe.
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#154207
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Did anyone see The Apprentice last night?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/154207/action/topic#154207
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I couldn't believe the lack of knowledge on the Star Wars films these budding businessmen and women had. One lady thought having Darth Vader as the central character in the store display would scare away potential customers for the DVD and videogame releases!!! She thought putting the dude with the blue face who tells Obiwan that Grevious is holding them captive should be the main character in the display!!!! Can you believe nobody in that group could figure out why Vader SHOULD be the focus of the Revenge of the Sith store displays?

Obviously, there are still some people on this planet who don't know much about Star Wars, but it was pretty wacky to see that the majority of these people who are trying to get a job in business couldn't grasp the concept of Star Wars being a cultural phenomenon. The Donald told them that its been phenomenon for nearly 30 years, yet most of them didn't seem to get it. It was pretty strange. They needed to go rent some of the SW movies
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#153976
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Watching in order 1-6 is screwing up the original SW for newcomers!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/153976/action/topic#153976
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Here's my 2 cents on cgi. I think the problem with it was that George got carried away with it. He was like a kid in a candy store. "Oohhh, instead of having 3 ships, let's have 60 of them!!! And I want 2,000 Wookies in that shot!!! And the ships have to tilt, then swoop, then go under that ship and around, and then do this and that! Oh man, I wish I could have done this in the 70's and 80's!!!! Wouldn't this look GREAT in the original trilogy?!!!! Hey Rick, I need to make a few more OT changes!"

I also think that filming mostly in front of blue and green screens limited the actors' movement and performances. There are just way too many scenes of actors walking slowly, side-by-side delivering wordy conversations and scenes with people sitting still talking. To me, this was one of the biggest gripes I had with the PT. In many ways, the prequels look like stage plays, which is kind of the way they were filmed. I don't know if this is just me or if others felt that way too. The shots just aren't visually exciting and it kind of makes the prequels drag.

I wish there had been more fully built, man-made sets in the PT. I think part of the reason the OT performances were so convincing was that the actors could actually see the worlds that George had imagined. They saw the corridors of the Death Star, the trash compactor, the carbon freezing chamber, etc. I think the feel and pacing of the OT would have been vastly different if they had been filmed in front of blue screens.

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#153753
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Return of the Jedi + Revenge of the Sith = one amazing movie!
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I think Jedi and Sith are both good films, with some sections that are outstanding and others that are average, hence that's why I can't rank them as high as Empire or Star Wars. However, I think if you cut down on much of the Jabba, Ewok and space fight sequences in Jedi and then inserted the crucial parts of Sith as a flashback it would work really well.

A good place to "flash back" would be in the middle of the Luke/Obiwan scene on Daghobah. After Obiwan's "I thought I could instruct him as well as Yoda. I was wrong" line, it could say "24 years ago" and then you switch to Sith and see Anakin's fall. It's as if Obiwan is telling Luke the story about how Anakin fell to the Dark Side. Then after the Sith scenes are shown, it goes back to the rest of the Luke/Obiwan scene.

IMO, this would work for many reasons. Seeing Anakin's fall and redemption in the same film would add to the drama of the film. I think the Star Wars story is much more effective if Luke is still the central character, with Vader's importance growing in each SW film. Plus if one were to watch the films in this order, you still get the shock of the Vader revelation.

I think you could combine the films into a 2 1/2- 3 hour film. I also think you could edit the "Sith" section so that all the plotholes George created would be cut out. The whole saving Padme from dying could be cut out and Anakin's sole reason for turning could be that Palpy brainwashes him into thinking the Jedi don't trust Anakin and are planning to take over the Senate. That always seemed like the real reason he turned anyway. Padme's death could even be chopped out, and one could just imply she went to hiding on Alderaan with the Organas and died when Leia was maybe 4 or 5 years old. Her comments that her mother was kind, beautiful but sad would be a good way to describe Padme after Anakin force chokes her.

All I know is that whenever I watch Sith, I always want to watch Vader redeemed in Jedi!
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#153224
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Watching in order 1-6 is screwing up the original SW for newcomers!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/153224/action/topic#153224
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Does anyone remember that movie magazine (not sure which one) that had the "50 Reasons why we HATE Return of the Jedi (but love Star Wars and Empire)? I don't have it, but I remember the gist of it. Basically they despised the Ewoks, they LOVED the Emperor scenes and felt cheated by the fact that he wasn't in the movie more, bashed Vader for not acting evil at all in the entire film, complained that the Han and Leia romance was reduced to a 90210-like relationship and that 3P0 had become unbearable. It's a similar reaction that a lot of fans had to Menace.

I have no problem with special effects, except when they become the focal point of the film. A lot of the special effects, esp in the OT simply enhanced the story. Just compare the level of tension in the Battle of Yavin to the other space battles. All the cgi in the world couldn't produce a better space battle. It was a combination of the effects, John Williams' awesome music, the editing, and the emotions shown by the actor and the fact that the entire fate of the Rebellion depended on a tiny fighter plane destroying a fearsome battle station. Awesome.

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#153120
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Watching in order 1-6 is screwing up the original SW for newcomers!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/153120/action/topic#153120
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I don't know why its so hard for the younger generation to understand that Star Wars, Empire and Jedi were made BEFORE the prequel trilogy. They also seem quick to label the original Star Wars trilogy (esp A New Hope) as boring, dull and old fashioned but don't realize that if it weren't for the record-breaking success of the original film, and then the success of Empire, there NEVER, EVER would have been a prequel trilogy!!!!

A lot of younger fans don't seem to understand that any plot holes or major changes like Vader not being the lead character in the OT are due to changes Lucas made along the way. Like if it seems weird that Leia remembers her mother, they think the mistake was made in Return of the Jedi back in 1983!!!!

In many ways this reminds me of Back to the Future 2 with the alternate reality created by Biff. The entire town has changed and Doc and Marty know its changed, but to everyone else its reality. For the millions who grew up on the OT, Luke is the protagonist who redeems his father, and the galaxy is a realistic, "used future" place. To the kids who saw the PT first, the cgi infested Anakin centered galaxy is their reality.
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#151897
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Wal-Mart gets Star Wars bonus disc for ROTS
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151897/action/topic#151897
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BTW, with so many people now owning widescreen HDTV's, I don't even see the point of full screen anymore. I have a 32 inch flat/widescreen tv and the tv comes with a zoom button that not only enlarges the picture, but the only thing it cuts is part of the bars and NOT the picture! The only thing that gets cut is subtitles at the bottom of the screen. I can always switch to 16:9 for scenes with subtitles and go back to zoom.
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#151895
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Wal-Mart gets Star Wars bonus disc for ROTS
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151895/action/topic#151895
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I just got back from Walmart and they actually had the bonus disk with the widescreen. Also, they had a set of figures (Vader, Sidious and Dooku). It says it was created exclusively for the DVD release so I wonder if they are selling it anywhere besides Walmart. The three pack of toys was only $10. I think they might also be selling a couple other sets, but the Sith Lords set was the only one they had at my Walmart.
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#151644
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Star Wars named best score by AFI, Empire not even in top 250!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151644/action/topic#151644
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Originally posted by: Number20
Not saying I agree, but it is probably meaning the entire series, even if they say Star Wars specifically. Sort of like when they don't give academy awards or few academy awards to the first movie or so in the series, but all of them to the last. Like they did with LOTR.


So does that mean that Sith will win best picture for the entire series? Hehe. Actually, I think the Star Wars saga deserves an honorary Oscar. It's too good, too important, etc not to be recognized in that way.
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#151487
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Star Wars named best score by AFI, Empire not even in top 250!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151487/action/topic#151487
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I just went on the AFI site and saw that Star Wars had been named greatest film score ever. However, Empire, for whatever reason, did not qualify. That's pretty lame IMO. People can argue its a sequel, so it uses recycled themes and doesnt' count. But almost all the major themes in this film were brand spaning new. I bet most of the people who voted for Star Wars think the Imperial March was in that film. No seriously!

Sorry, AFI, but your lists are jokes.
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#151275
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Carrie Fisher should turn her AFI speech into a standup act!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151275/action/topic#151275
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Seriously, her speech was hillarious. I think she could make a great standup routine based on this speech:

"Hi, I'm Mrs. Han Solo, and I'm an alcoholic. I'm an alcoholic because George Lucas ruined my life. I mean that in the nicest possible way. Fifty-seven years ago, I did his little 'Star Wars' film, a cult film that then went on to redefine what they laughingly refer to as "the face of cinema." And now, sixty-five years later, people are still asking me if I knew it was going to be that big of a hit. Yes, I knew. We all knew. The only one who didn't know was George. We kept it from him, because we wanted to see what his faced looked like when it changed expression. George is a sadist. But, like any abused child wearing a metal bikini chained to a giant slug about to die, I keep coming back for more. Only a man like George could bring us whole new worlds populated by vivid extraordinary characters, and providing Mark and Harrison and myself with enough fan mail, and even a small merry band of stalkers -- it's lovely -– keeping us entertained for the rest of our unnatural lives. George, the fact that you made me into a little doll that my first husband could stick pins into ... a shampoo bottle where people could twist my head off and pour liquid out of my neck – "lather up with Leia and you'll feel like a princess yourself!" ... and yes, the little Pez dispensers so my daughter Billie could pull my head back and pull the wafer out of my neck every time she doesn't want to do her homework ... I suppose I don't mind. And though amongst your many possessions you have owned my likeness lo these many years, so that every time I look in the mirror I have to send you a check for a couple of bucks. Not to mention you had the unmitigated gall to let that chick – the new girl, who plays my mother, Queen Armadillo, or whatever her name is? – she wears a new hairstyle and outfit practically every time she walks through a door! I mean, I bet she even got to wear a bra, even though you told me I couldn't, "because there was no underwear in space!" I'm only slightly bitter, because you, my formerly silent friend, are an extraordinary talent, and let's face it, an artist -- the like of which is seen perhaps once in a generation, who helps define that generation -- and who deserves every award I now spend the latter half of my Leia-laden life helping to hurl your way! And in conclusion, your honor, I hope I slept with you to get the job, because if not, who the Hell was that guy?!?"
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#149826
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General Star Wars Caption This
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149826/action/topic#149826
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
http://www.r2-d2.de/Character/rotj8-k.jpg

Cut scene from ROTJ:

Mon Calamari: "Now, this mission will have two teams. One team, leaded by Lando Calrisian, will atack the Death Star in a suicidal mission in which almost everyone will likely perish in flames.I kid you not, some of you might not come back. And the rest of you REALLY won't come back. The last time we battled a Death Star, only three came back, Luke, Wedge, and this other guy. Battling a huge Death Star with only X-wings and Y-wings and A-wings is a real death sentence itself.

The other team, leaded by Han Solo, will go to the Endor moon, with a nice climate and a beautiful jungle, camp there for a night, singing songs and eating marshmellows, and then proceed with a morning walk to the place where the shield generator is. There, they will place the explosives, walk away, and await for it to explode. They don't even have to fight their way into the planet, because some stupid Bothans died to bring this old code that allows anyone to land there - and don't worry, no one will go check the ship after it lands, so you may just walk away after the landing.

Now, to sort out the teams, those of you who want to go to with Lando remain seated. Those of you who want to go with Captain Solo, get up now."

* Everyone gets up *

Mon Calamari: "Oh, yes, I forgot to mention. On the Endor moon, live the cute and furry little Ewok creatures..."

* Everyone gets down *

Lando: "Ha ha, Han old buddy, I didn't know you enjoyed Ewoks humping up on your leg."

Han: "Oh you piece of s(BEEP)t!!! *Fights Lando* Come here and fight like a f(BEEP)ing man you c(BEEP)t!"

Mon Calamari: "Gentleman you cannot fight here, this is the star war room! It's a trap!"



Brilliant! That was so funny!
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#149686
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If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149686/action/topic#149686
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To me, the whole irony is that for all these years, George whined that the sets, creatures, effects, etc didn't live up to his standards/vision, yet even with all the money and technology in the world, the stuff they did in the prequels was actually inferior.

IMO, the entire cast of creatures and droids created for the prequels were completely forgetable. The battle droids were a complete and utter joke. They looked like crap. They honestly looked like mechanical stick figures. And the creatures? Nute Gunray, Watto and Jar Jar all looked like crap. Even General Grievous was not that impressive. When you compare this stuff to R2D2, C3PO, OT Yoda, Chewie, the Tauntauns, Tuskin Raiders, Jawas, all the funky creatures at the cantina, the Wampa, the bounty hunters, Jabba the Puppet, the Gamorian guards, heck even that silly creature in the garbage chute, the prequel stuff just looks inferior.

On top of that, is the cgi podrace any more impressive than the Battle of Hoth, asteroid field and speeder bike chace sequence. Would the AT-AT's have been better as cgi creations? No way! The only real limits George had in the OT was the small budget for the first film, but after that he had a ton of money and almost no limitations for the other films.

I think one of the reasons people bought into Star Wars was that everything had a lived in, grimey, dirty look. Tatooine, Hoth, Daghobah, etc were simple, yet much more effective than the overblown Coruscant and Naboo. To this day, none of the CGI can top the imagination of the Carbon Freezing Chamber and all the other Cloud City sets. How cool was that place?!!!