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JennyS1138

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#122169
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Worst changes to OT in '97 and '04
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Wow, I agree with you on almost everything. The thing I hate the most is that technically, George has the right to do what he wants, BUT, he did not direct two of the three OT films and therefore should not have been allowed to tamper with them. The director is the person whose vision makes it to the screen, not the executive producer! I doubt Irvin Kershner originally intended to make some of the changes.

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#120816
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I saw Empire at the AFI Silver theatre on Saturday!
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The AFI Silver Theatre in Silver Spring MD has been showing the Star Wars films in honor of George getting the AFI Lifetime Acheivement award. They had the entire OT play on Saturday and Sunday and episodes 1 and 2 on Friday and today. They will also be playing the Indiana Jones trilogy and other Lucas films in the coming month.

The size of the crowd for Empire was very big and very impressive considering the recent DVD release. They showed the 1997 Special Edition version (scream and all) and the audience was laughing throughout the movie (especially at Yoda, R2D2 and Han). Nothing beats seeing the SW films on the big screen with a crowd.
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#119744
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Am I the only one who thinks the CGI effects look fake?
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I know Emperor Lucas is in love with CGI, but I actually think most of the effects in the prequels were INFERIOR to those in the OT because they look cartoonish and fake. Tatooine, Hoth, Daghobah and Endor were real looking. Heck, even Bespin was more believable than Naboo and Coruscant. I really think they went overboard on the CGI, which I think should have only been used for space battle scenes or action sequences. The computer generated backgrounds and characters looked like they belong in Shrek and not in Star Wars, at least IMO.
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#119741
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Did George actually have an "original vision?"
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I sure don't think so based on many of the inconsistancies in the series. There are plenty of things that I don't think George "originally envisioned" when he made the original Star Wars films. Some examples:

1. I don't think he originally envisioned the character Qui-Gon Jin when he was making the OT.
2. I doubt he originally envisioned Anakin being conceived by midichlorians or growing up as a slave
3. I'm not convinced he knew Vader was Luke's father when he made Star Wars or if Luke and Leia were always brother and sister
4. I really don't think he originally envisioned Boba Fett's daddy as the man who was cloned
5. Is there any way he originally planned to have Padme die when he wrote ROTJ and Leia said she remembered her mother?!
6. Didn't he originally envision a tension between Owen and Anakin as well as tension between Owen and Obiwan? None of this was developed in the prequels. Heck, Owen met Anakin AFTER he had left Tatooine and "gotten involved." There was just no impression that Owen thought Obiwan was a wacky old man either. I mean the dude gave him Luke to raise!!!!
7. Nobody can convince me that George had visions of trade disputes and Jar Jar Binks 30 years ago
8. There is no way he originally envisioned Greedo shooting first. I mean, Han was clearly loading his reched blaster
9. If Anakin wanted Luke to have his lightsaber when he was old enough, then why didn't he ever say anything
10. The terms "Padawan" and "midichlorians" were absent from the OT, so how could this have been part of the plan?

There's plenty more I could come up with, but I really think his so-called vision was never really clear.
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#119738
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Anakin & Obi-Wan: The Friendship We Never Really Saw
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Wow, this is a great thread and I've had the exact same thoughts as many people here. I really never understood what the point of Qui-gon was, when Obiwan's friendship to Anakin needed to be developed.

In the OT, the characters really showed that they liked each other and came across as Friends. Han and Luke are joking around about Leia and then they have that great moment right before the Battle of Yavin when Han says "May the Force Be With You." Oh man, is that a great moment or what? And the way the three friends are embracing, smiling and shouting after the Death Star is destroyed is awesome.

In Empire there's a great scene which shows the Friendship between Luke and Han. Right before the Battle of Hoth, just the way they look at each other shows that they care about each other and the way Luke is so concerned about his friends on Cloud City.

The only person I was really convinced Anakin loved was his mother.
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#119547
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Parody interview with George Lucas on OT changes
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I thought it would be fun to write a fake interview on George's thoughts on this issue

George Lucas interview
By Hugh Ken Knott B. Seriuz

George Lucas, the man behind the Star Wars curtain has taken a lot of flack in recent years for his refusal to release his original trilogy. I decided to sit down with Lucas at Skywalker Ranch to discuss the issue.

Seriuz: Mr. Lucas, you just released the Star Wars trilogy on DVD, but many of your most devoted fans have urged you to release the original versions. Why won't you do it? You'd probably make a ton of money.

Lucas: First of all, I'm a billionaire, any money that might bring in would be chump change to me. Secondly, you have to understand that this just cannot happen. The original versions were utter failures. The special effects were amateurishly done and the films were just not like my original vision had been.

Seriuz: But Mr. Lucas, you're original vision of Star Wars had Han Solo as a Giant Green monster with gills. You had a Journal of the Whills. At one point, you heroes were midgets. If you wanted to go with your original vision, you'd remake the films based on your first draft!

Lucas: I threw the early drafts away buddy. Anyway, those Star Wars fans are really nuts sometimes. They should just accept the fact that the old versions of Star Wars sucked.

Seriuz: What about the people who worked their tails off to get the films made? Don't you feel badly that you've altered and in some cases, taken out parts of the film that they worked so hard to create?

Lucas: Oh come on, I gave them all profit points, why should they care if I cut a few seconds out?

Seriuz: Mr. Lucas, have you ever stopped to think about how strange it is that the most popular trilogy of all-time is unavailable in its original theatrical form?

Lucas: Um...

Seriuz: Could you imagine if people went back and changed other classic films? Like what if they did a digital version of Snow White, Fantasia, and all the animated Disney films and combined them with the old audio tracks, pretending it was the original version? And what if, the scenery of the Wizard of Oz was replaced by digitally animated backgrounds? And how about they took out "You Must Remember This" from Casablanca and replaced it with a breakdance routine?

Lucas: Those don't sound like bad ideas actually?

Seriuz: You must be joking.

Lucas: No, I'm not. Films are never finished and I think more filmmakers should go back and continue working on their films. Heck, I can hook them up with ILM and we can go rewrite movie history! I've always wondered what my companies could do with the original King Kong, or Gone With the Wind, Lawrence of Arabia and other classics.

Seriuz: So, Mr. Lucas, does that mean someone should repaint the Mona Lisa?

Lucas: I doubt DaVinci would care. He's dead you know.

Seriuz: Why am I not surprised that the man who created Jar Jar Binks said that? Anyway, do you think you will ever be done tinkering with Star Wars?

Lucas: No, never. In fact, we're working on them right now. We are going to completely redo the background of all three films. It's time that the look of the originals completely matches the look of the prequels.

Seriuz: Ugh.

Lucas: That's right Mister. We're going to totally redo the two week points of Star Wars: the Cantina scene and the Death Star. I'm going to completely recreate the cantina by dumping all the lame muppets and replacing them with digital characters.

Serius: Oh yay, more cartoons.

Lucas: And the Death Star is going to be opened up like we did with Cloud City. When you see Leia in her cell, or Tarkin and Vader in the meeting room, you're going to see large open windows with ships flying in the background, just like in the throne room in Jedi. And, I've always felt that the scenes on Tatooine drag. Too much time elapses without a special effects scene. Right after the droids reunite in the Jawa's transporter thingy, I'm cutting to some scenes on Coruscant and we're going to show Palpatine dissolving the Senate. Then I'm going to have some scenes on Daghobah with Yoda communicating through the force with Qui-Gon.

Seriuz: Dude, I think the brain damage you suffered from that car accident over 30 years ago is finally starting to show.

Lucas: Hey don't mess with me pal. I wasn't done telling you about the other changes.

Seriuz: Oh please continue:

Lucas: Anyway, the originals will finally meet the standards of the prequels. We are redoing all the special effects and all the backgrounds. The entire trilogy will now look the the prequels. Thank goodness the prequels lived up to my standards.

Seriuz: Technical standards, yes. But have you realized that the originals were superior films in terms of storytelling, characterization, acting and character interraction?

Lucas: No, I think both trilogies are equal in that department.

Seriuz: And don't you think that one of the reasons people liked the originals was that the special effects, though not as advanced were actually more realistic? That people liked the realness as opposed to the videogame look of the prequels? The puppets were believable, and people could buy into everything because things looked worn down and dirty and real.

Lucas: You are one weird dude. This is the 21st century. They're my movies and nobody else can tell me what to do with them.

Seriuz: Okay, I've had enough of this. As one Mr. Binks would say. Thisa interview isa ova!