This notion that Trump and Hillary are equally bad is, in my opinion, purely a product of an extraordinarily successful smear campaign. Before she was a candidate, Hillary was one of the most respected democrats among republicans:
That’s exactly the problem.
I know people hate her, but how was she not qualified?
People often say lots of things “disqualify” someone, rather than just looking at a set of prerequisites. I personally thought her vote on the AUMF was a war crime. I thought her vote on the MCA was abhorrent. I’m sure some people would say that because she used e-mail, she’s disqualified, but I’m not among them. I don’t think these things disqualify so much as significantly push down her appeal. Frankly if she’d never been a Senator, and she’d only been Secretary of State and First Lady (and all her qualifications from before), I may have happily voted for her, rather than with the same shudder I gave when I voted for Kerry. Nevertheless, the fact that she had any qualifications at all, and that she wasn’t endorsed by the Klan, and that she wasn’t the Kremlin’s pick, put her over the top for me. It’s a low bar, but she cleared it easily.
As for qualifications, she doesn’t rank up there with Jefferson or Bush I, but she’s up there. She was extremely qualified. But her record as a Senator was troubling.
So she’s a war criminal, but at least she’s not endorsed by people you don’t like?
My grandmother is the only democrat in my family. I am a liberal but do not consider myself a democrat. We are able to discuss politics with each other civilly and without a filter, whether we agree or disagree on an issue. The rest of our family are just nutters.
Anyway, after the election I told her I felt bad for her, because she’s getting up there in age, and I know it would have been a huge deal for women like her to see the first woman get elected president. They may not get another chance in their lifetime.
But at the same time, I felt relieved for younger women and girls. It would have been abhorrent for someone like Hillary to have been their first female president. Hopefully the day will come sooner rather than later, when a woman will get elected who they (and we) can all be proud of.
Hillary Clinton would not have been that person.
Tulsi Gabbard.
I’m more concerned about Rogue One being so high. It’s the most boring SW movie to date with characters so lame even Jar Jar is badass in comparaison…
Or maybe you’re a hipster and therefore enjoy not enjoying things when a significant number of the mainstream seems to like them.
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I think this problem could be alleviated by having a main character stuck in that hallway with Vader. Maybe a current character could be rewritten to be in that scene, or it could be a new character. The idea is that the audience is hopeful because this character managed to avoid the destruction of Scariff, so we’re rooting for him to get out of there.
B) use him in place of CGI-Tarkin.
I think that could actually work pretty well. It fits with his character to be mistrusting of Imperial officers, so he could be just as antagonistic to Krennic as Tarkin was without it seeming out of place. It would make sense for him to be frustrated in ANH because for the whole of Rogue One he’s been against Krennic, and then Krennic royally fucks up and now he has to clean up the mess.
Dominic, I see what you mean; of course his presence is not necessary. But you said in your earlier post that he “does not belong in this movie.” That’s a bit hyperbole, I think, and implies that his presence is damaging. I just wonder in what way you think his presence is damaging to the film.
It depends what you consider damaging. Vader’s scene is the most obvious reshoot material because he never meets the heroes face to face. It comes across as a very last minute addition (which it is). It also overturns their sacrifice by making the audience root for him instead.
I think this problem could be alleviated by having a main character stuck in that hallway with Vader. Maybe a current character could be rewritten to be in that scene, or it could be a new character. The idea is that the audience is hopeful because this character managed to avoid the destruction of Scariff, so we’re rooting for him to get out of there. Things are looking up for this character. Then the hallway scene plays out like normal, and this main character is cut down by Vader. That way the audience is conflicted, we’re rooting for the main character because we’ve spent the last 2 hours with him, but we’re also rooting for Vader, because he’s badass. The scene would carry more emotional weight than it currently does, because as it is Vader is just cutting down nameless rebels.
That being said, I still love the hallway scene. I think it totally makes sense for Vader to be there, and for him to be using his lightsaber in that way.
I get the idea here, but there are a couple of issues that need to be resolved for this to work. First, Scariff and Tatooine require some travel time. We need to perhaps see the Tantive IV in hyperspace. If someone could superimpose the tantive IV and a star destroyer over the Enterprise being shot at in warp by the Vengeance (ST:ID) that would help with the transition between the two planets. Second, the visuals are just too crisp in Rogue One. If this is an intended edit, the RO footage needs A LOT of grading to simulate a 70’s era film.
I don’t really know anything about color grading, but I made an attempt;
Helen Keller once described a cheese grater as; “the most violent book I’ve ever read.”
screaming like an autist
Nice.
What a shitty thread I’ve discovered!
You couldn’t tell when you saw who the OP was? 😛
I’m glad the AHCA failed miserably; I still think the Republican party are just a bunch of subhuman scum that doesn’t deserve to live, but then that’s just my frustration blowing off steam.
I don’t think you can excuse calling for genocide by saying you’re “just blowing off steam.”
Republicans hate every single human being that isn’t white, male, straight, christian, and/or unborn. They have done everything in their power to shove their delusional vision of America down our throats, even when 90% of the country opposes their policies. They believe the wealthiest of the wealthy should be protected from taxation at any cost, even if 24 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE to achieve that goal. They are infinitely worse than every single evil political party that has ever existed in the last 100 years. They are beyond dangerous, and they are headed by one of the most evil men in history, Donald Trump.
All republicans are clinical sociopaths. They do not deserve any fucking sympathy. We are in the worst period in human history and it’s all their fault.
Ridiculous doom saying.
I’m glad the AHCA failed miserably; I still think the Republican party are just a bunch of subhuman scum that doesn’t deserve to live, but then that’s just my frustration blowing off steam.
I don’t think you can excuse calling for genocide by saying you’re “just blowing off steam.”
I don’t want Obamacare repealed, I want it fixed.
How so?
Man, I love dogs.
His real name is Hannse Ollo. He got tired of people mispronouncing it.
Can’t say I blame him. I wouldn’t want people calling me “Hansi” either.
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Would a Ric-pic be suitable for this occasion?
A reminder to generalfrevious and Alderaan:
- No crazy conspiracy theories (aliens killed JFK, Elvis did 911, Moon Landing was faked, 911 was an inside job)
- No ridiculous doom saying (like all non-Trump supporters will be rounded up and executed)
The next time I see either of you violate those rules, I will report you.
If you see something that you think violates the rules, please skip this step and just report it.
As Hillary said, she would have been a good president
No. No she wouldn’t have been. She would have been god-awful terrible. Just like Trump is god-awful terrible, but in a different way.
Just because Trump is a joke, and he is, does not mean she would have been good or better.
It was truly a lose-lose situation in this country.
Woah, I think that’s the first thing I agree with you on 😛
Trump has managed to find a base so stupid that he can say and do anything and they’ll keep right on supporting him.
If you think 1 person has cornered the market on stupid, talk to Bernie Sanders, ask him how he feels about being cheated by his own people.
😉 (a wink in jest)
Joking or not, it’s not a valid comparison. Sanders “base” were not thrilled when he was doing things like endorsing Hillary. Trump’s base would just keep cheering him no matter what.
Just to make sure, are you insinuating Trump’s base would still cheer him if he endorsed Hillary?
They cheered him after he made of a disable reporter
They cheered him after he said he wanted to ban Muslims from coming into the country’
They cheered him after he said a judge a unqualified because he was Mexican
They cheered him after he insulted the parents of soldier whom made the ultimate sacrifice for the country
They cheered him after he said he would “grab them by the p****”
They cheered him after multiple women accused him of sexual assault/harassment.
After all of that, I am left to wonder just what would cause them to stop cheering him. I don’t think it is a stretch to say they would cheer him no matter what.
The only uniting factor between all Trump voters is that they all prefer him over Hillary. Him endorsing Hillary is pretty much the only thing he could do to upset his entire base at once. Trump does not have the power to make people believe things contrary to what they actually believe only, because it’s him that said it (I hope that wasn’t phrased too confusingly).
The Internet is no place for such rational conclusions.
EDIT: Fo beat me to it.
Voting for Hillary was the best shot at defeating Trump.
In retrospect, perhaps it wasn’t. At least regarding the primaries.
- If you will look at my original post, you will see I was talking about the general election and not the primaries. Btw, I a RINO(Repubican in name only), I didn’t vote in the Democratic Primary. In the Republican Primary(which was basically locked up before it got to my state), I voted for Kasich.
You live in a closed primary state?
The Internet is no place for such rational conclusions.
EDIT: Fo beat me to it.
Voting for Hillary was the best shot at defeating Trump.
In retrospect, perhaps it wasn’t. At least regarding the primaries.
I’ve taken out Tatooine… works much better now. Vader also now says “Send a detachment to retrieve them.” instead of “Send a detachment DOWN to retrieve them.”
(still needs to be fine-tuned, but gets the idea across)
Very nicely done.
What version of the Imperial March did you use when for when Vader boards the Tantive and assesses the aftermath?
Mace Windu (who somehow survived his fall in ROTS)?
I really hope they don’t do this.
Walt Disney Pictures made Beauty and the Beast. Lucasfilm made TFA and RO. Walt Disney Studios distributed both. Maybe some day people will learn the difference (spoiler: they won’t).
Actually, if you had watched TFA and R1, which I’m sure you did, you could tell they were made by about 50 different executives, all with their own sometimes disparate ideas, crammed into 2 hours.
Which is how dysfunctional rehash movies get made.
TFA? Fine but Rogue One? Nah. It just a movie that takes place around the time of the OT. How does that make it a rehash?
Another movie with the Death Star, even though they’ve been blown up 2-3 times, depending on how you count them? Another movie with Darth Vader? That’s five movies now since he died, and he’s managed to appear in all of them. Another movie with Grand Moff Tarkin? Now there’s going to be another movie with Han Solo?
That’s… that’s just actually stupid.