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#717382
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<strong>STAR WARS: REBELS</strong> (animated tv series) - a general discussion thread
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Tobar said:

The answer to that problem is to not have a Jedi in your main cast. But they're too afraid to not cater to the Force loving crowd to do that.

I still think the show will turn out great, I'm just disappointed they had to shoehorn Jedi into it.

 It shouldn't be a problem, though. We know Vader hunted down and whipped the shit out of every Jedi during the purge that he came across. The rebels never win any real victories until ANH. The Rebels series should be all about Vader kicking the rebels ass for 20 years.

Like you I still think it will be good, but wish it had taken a slightly different direction.

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#717221
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Ryan McAvoy said:

JediZombie said:

I shall talk about random things related to Star Wars on a thread entitled General Star Wars Random thoughts. 

Basically, I think I'll stay on this lawn and relax with a nice cool glass of blue milk.

Nope, you can't talk about random things in this thread, only random thoughts and those thoughts must be Star Wars related and also cover a wide spectrum of topics within the subset "Star Wars".

 Why would anyone talk about non Star Wars related things on a Star Wars forum?

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#717218
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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TV's Frink said:

Don't tell me what my thread is about.

There are plenty of other places here to discuss things like the EU, PT vs OT, film vs. digital, etc.

Basically, get off my thread's lawn.

 Random would indicate there are no patterns or regularity. Therefore, I shall talk about random things related to Star Wars on a thread entitled General Star Wars Random thoughts. 

Basically, I think I'll stay on this lawn and relax with a nice cool glass of blue milk.

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#717199
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EU, Sith, comics, novels, etc etc etc.
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darklordoftech said:

TheBoost said:

darklordoftech said:

Darth Bane concept art for The Clone Wars:

http://starwars.com/img/explore/the-clone-wars/slideshow/ep613/conceptart/darth-bane-clone-wars-613.jpg

 Kinda neat, but why doesn't it line up with the other images/toys/covers we've seen of him? 

I wouldn't have cared, but wouldn't a lot of people complain at great length if that had happened?

I guess GL thought the orbalisks looked silly.

 GL made Jar Jar. He forfeited his right to judge what is silly or not.

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#717195
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If Disney was to make their own edition
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darklordoftech said:

JediZombie said:

Get rid of as much Jar Jar as possible. Get rid of the microscopic Force bugs living in everyone's blood. I know what they're called but don't care. Get rid of horrid CG Jabba. Change Vader's Nooooo in RoTS to a pain filled cry of rage. Take Vader's Nooooo in RoTJ out. Put Shaw back in. Han shoots first. After all that just some touch ups here and there and for me it would be perfect. Of course this is what I want and not what Disney will do. But a fella can dream. Right? 

At least two of the things that you referred to are from the prequels, not the special editions.

 True. Just figured I'd throw what I personally want Disney to do with the entire Saga out there. As for what they'll do with the OT... I haven't a clue.

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#717124
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If Disney was to make their own edition
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Get rid of as much Jar Jar as possible. Get rid of the microscopic Force bugs living in everyone's blood. I know what they're called but don't care. Get rid of horrid CG Jabba. Change Vader's Nooooo in RoTS to a pain filled cry of rage. Take Vader's Nooooo in RoTJ out. Put Shaw back in. Han shoots first. After all that just some touch ups here and there and for me it would be perfect. Of course this is what I want and not what Disney will do. But a fella can dream. Right? 

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#717123
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DuracellEnergizer said:

JediZombie said:

You sound kind of silly when you complain about fans spitting venom on those that question Lucas when you're spitting venom on those that like the PT.

I don't mind if someone likes the PT -- as long as they support the preservation of the OOT. What I do mind, however, is when someone who does like the PT treats the OOT like used toilet paper and decrees that Lucas is a perfect god who can never be questioned and personally attacks and insults anyone who says otherwise.

 I agree. I also run into this type of fan on both sides, though. PT fans that will shit all over you and SW purists that will shit all over you. I''m in the middle of the isle, so I sometimes find myself getting shit on twice. ;)

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#717051
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DuracellEnergizer said:

How to tell when a Star Wars fan isn't really a Star Wars fan:

  1. When they consider the PT better than the OT.
  2. When they consider the "I-II-III-IV-V-VI" viewing order the "right" order.
  3. When they defend Lucas' refusal to properly restore the OOT.
  4. When they spit venom on anyone who dares to question Lucas in even the smallest way possible.

 I'll give you number three. All versions of a film should be there for those who want them. Denying one version while pushing another is a shitty thing to do, and basically says fans of that version don't matter. The rest of your points are nonsense. You sound kind of silly when you complain about fans spitting venom on those that question Lucas when you're spitting venom on those that like the PT. I personally say a true fan is anyone that likes Star Wars. What parts they like or don't like is irrelevant. The fans on both sides of the isle that spit venom at each other do a disservice to the Star Wars fan community as a whole.

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#716683
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Here is an experience from a newish Star Wars fan that started with TPM and had no idea where the story would go. Many of us older fans hate the PT and feel that we got the better experience seeing the OT first. But I think this post from another Star Wars forum shows that the PT is just as important as the OT, and can change a persons life as well.
 

I didn't know.

It was heartbreaking.

A lot of people rag on the Chosen One prophecy, but for people who start with the PT, it's a great misdirection technique because it makes you believe that no matter what, Anakin will save the day and defeat the Sith. So when everything goes to hell, it messes with all your expectations. I thought everything that had come before Anakin's turn -- like the Tusken slaughter or Anakin killing Dooku, was just Lucas "misdirecting" us so to speak. Trying to make us believe that there was the possibility that Anakin would turn so that when he finally did the right thing and saved the day, there would be loads of dramatic effect. NOPE.

I still remember how I felt when Anakin chopped Mace's hand off. I was as shocked as he was. And then…when he knelt before Palpatine. The children…christ, the children. I was just stupefied for that entire sequence. People will make fun, for instance, of the "younglings" line, but I was just watching everything unfold in total disbelief.

But even then, somehow, I thought things would turn out alright. When Padmé went after him, I thought she would get through to him. I figured, having done something so terrible like killing the children, that Anakin was likely going to die by that point. But I thought he would team up with Obi-Wan and sacrifice himself to do the right thing, in the end. NOPE. He chokes her instead and he and Obi-Wan fight to the death. And then Anakin burns. I can't even begin to describe how shocking it is to watch him burn, even knowing how much he deserves it. It really takes your breath away -- like being punched in the gut. Granted, I was a lot younger when I watched it and it's just a movie, but still. I just didn't expect something like that. AT ALL.

I mean, I went into this series seeing sweet, little nine-year-old Anakin…and by the end, I'm watching him burn alive, screaming in pain, after murdering children and choking his pregnant wife. It just unsettles you terribly. To have your expectations so completely overturned. Padmé dies. Obi-Wan goes into exile. Palpatine wins. And Anakin…well, Anakin would be better off dead.

Now, granted, I was a bit older than most when I watched Star Wars for the first time (young teenager) but it still hit really, really hard. To this day, it's still among one of the most unexpected narratives I've ever watched, especially because Star Wars is generally such a fun, family friendly series.

I still remember that it was the first film I ever watched the special features for -- my family had rented the film and usually we didn't bother with the extras. But that night, after everyone else went to bed, I snuck down and watched the "Chosen One" documentary by myself because I was upset and I wanted answers.

It's why I always advocate watching the prequels first, because I don't think any twist in Star Wars, not even "I am your father," can come close to matching that.

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#715492
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Star Wars: Episode VIII to be directed by Rian Johnson
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emanswfan said:

JediZombie said:

mfastx said:

I'm not sure why everyone is talking about CGI.  The Prequels were weaker films because of poor plot, dialogue, and directing.  CGI was still kind of new then so some shots looked way too cartoony, but by the time ROTS rolled around I thought the CGI looked great in that.  

It's 2014, I'm sure that any CGI used will look great.  I'm more worried about the storyline at this point. 

 I'm one of those odd people that don't care one way or the other how the effects are done. CGI or models, if it looks good who cares. Eps 1&2 had some problems with the CGI but still looked okay. I agree with you that the CGI in ROTS looked pretty damn good. I have no doubts that visually this Star Wars trilogy will look the best.

I'm not sure I want to say the CGI looks good anymore (at the time maybe), but there are a lot of shots in ROTS, that a next-gen gaming console (ps4, xbox one, wii u) can easily beat.  Even TCW had more detailed digital characters than the digital doubles used in certain shots.

 Definitely not as good today as it was then. But that's how it always goes. Still think ROTS looks decent enough, though. I'm expecting these new films to blow me away visually, and hopefully with the story as well.

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#715388
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Harmy said:

We're not fans f the same thing, you and I, I am a fan of the original Star Wars trilogy in its unaltered form - if I had the choice of watching the BDs of Star Wars or staring at a blank wall for 6 hours, I'm pretty sure I'd choose the later. And I wasn't there in '77 either.

 Where did I ever say that I wasn't a fan of the original Star Wars trilogy? I simply like all the versions where most fans liking stops at the OT. That's the only difference between us.

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#715378
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Darth Id said:

JediZombie said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

JediZombie said:

Here's my random thought:

Star Wars is perfection because even the shitty parts make wish I lived there.

This is what happens after you become a zombie from drinking the Lucasfilm/Lucas Licensing Kool-Aid. 

 Sad for you that you seem to feel the need to insult a fellow fan simply because we have differing view points.

 Well you sorta opened yourself to it with the schizophrenic, cognitively dissonant doublethink you displayed.  "Star Wars" (by which you seem to mean not the movie, but everything with the trademark slapped on it) is "perfection" even though it has admitted "shitty parts"?  Seems to smack of epicyclical rationalization and apologism for a whole lot of what we on this board all know to be unforgivable Sins against Cinema.

 Oh, I don't care if he feels that he needs to insult me. He can do that all he wants. No sweat off my ass. I just find it sad and pathetic on his part. And I make no apologies for the fuck ups in Star Wars. There are plenty, and I wish they weren't there. However, I have excepted them and moved past them, and unlike a lot of fans I don't work myself into a rage over the shit that should never have been there, and then declare them unforgivable sins against cinema. That's a little melodramatic in my opinion.

But I understand that many fans feel that way and that's fine. They have the right. And maybe if I'd been there in 77 I'd feel the same way. But I personally like the original trilogy, and the SE, the PT, the EU, and even the all despised Blu-ray box set. And there's a lot of shit in there. And I still love all of it. That's why I said it's perfection. If I can still love something with so many flaws then it has transcended those flaws and reached some level of perfection in my eyes. And if other fans don't agree that's fine. But seeing as how we're all fans of the same thing I see no reason for insulting each other just because we don't all see things the same.

And for the record, the Star Wars Saga I want will never be, so I've embraced what is. A very unpopular choice with most fans.  

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#715352
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So....did Grievous know that Palpatine was Sidious?
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I try not to look too deeply into the PT. The PT is like a pretty chick with little brains. She's nice to look at but can't carry on a good conversation. Admire it for its beauty and not for what it has to say, and it's much more enjoyable that way. The OT is the not quite as superficially pretty sister because her nose is a little crooked. But her mind is sharp and engaging, and that slightly crooked nose gives her a shit tone of beautiful character.