Jedi Master DJR

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Post: #43746
Topic: A new petition?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43746/action/topic#43746
Time: 17-Apr-2004 6:57 AM

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Originally posted by: motti_soL
nice that we agree DJR!

Agreed

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
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How about when they went after Mel Gibson for the Passion?

thats true... but look at the content...
its religion based... and if we know one thing.. you get flamed whenever you voice your opinion on religion... you cant please everyone...
i still dont see why jewish people were offened.... maybe they should read the bible...

i also agree that the force lost its mysticism...
i could have done without the explanation

Well, you asked about when Hollywood didn't kiss each other's butts and that was one of the rare exceptions. And as for the Force, I don't think it lost all of its mysticism, just some when the explanation went further then 4 and 5's.

Post: #43632
Topic: MORE CHANGES!!! (for the 2004 OT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43632/action/topic#43632
Time: 16-Apr-2004 2:05 PM

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Originally posted by: Han's Girlfriend
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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR
This is where I disagree with the sentiments of many of the site, being the middle on this. I don't want GL to give it a rest. The fixed snowspeeders, landspeeders, and new ANH battle alone show he can make things much better then the originals. And I don't think he will continue every few years to update once he can sit down and finish it all off because he seems to like how CGI portrays his vision and I think he will be done with it all soon enough, otherwise he would make Episodes 7-9, which he is not. So while I understand the joking, give it a rest. I want him striving to improve, but I also want him to preserve. So he can have the originals and the directors cut he likes. I definately dislike the stigma he is starting to get here for wanting a better cut. There needs to be a Seperation of Logic, like Seperation of Powers. The petion is to preserve the originals, not say the SE is inferior. And really if everyone thought the SE was better, I would probably have had to make the petion because people are missing the point. It doesn't matter which one is better. Take LOTR. It doesn't matter if the EE is better or not, just that OT and EE(or whatever it evolves into) are preserved, period. There's my clarification of my position and what I think is the main point of the petion, not this arguing over versions.

i agree with that too. i maybe could even like the SE if i knew that i could get the OT too, that they could co-exist peacefully. but since it isn't the case, i see the SE as the "murderer" of the OT and thus dislike it with a passion. i guess this will change when i'll get my bootleg dvds or when (being idealistic now) they will finally release the OT too.

and i also don't think that the SWs movies are only George Lucas'. he would be a nobody doing movies about teens in the fifties and space ducks if it weren't for the fan. let's face it: movies are not like books. you might be able to print your own book, paying the publishing costs etc by yourself but for a movie it is impossible, those cost waaayyy too much. and guess with whose money GL made the SW movies (especially the prequels and excluding ANH)? with the fans'. so, in a certain way, they are ours too, it's the money we've invested that made it possible. and they should release the OT at least as a sign of respect and ecknowledgement for this. and for historical preservation because it is the OT that established SW as a popular phenomenon. if it hadn't been that successful there wouldn't be a SE, let alone the prequels. so it's actually our own fault that this happened. we killed the ot!

I disagree in that GL made the decision not to release the OT. And ANH could have been a flop, he never knew it would do so good. But see, I don't hate the SE because GL won't let the OT come to DVD. I dislike GL in that regard, but only GL since he is the one with the legal power after all.

Post: #43631
Topic: Carrie Fisher vs Natalie Portman
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43631/action/topic#43631
Time: 16-Apr-2004 2:02 PM

Nope, don't have the time.

Post: #43629
Topic: MORE CHANGES!!! (for the 2004 OT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43629/action/topic#43629
Time: 16-Apr-2004 2:00 PM

Well, since the 2004 dvd's will be the definitive editions for a while at least, that is what I meant by UE. Let me put this way, UE = Most Updated and Definitive Edition at the time.

Post: #43628
Topic: Changes in 2004 DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43628/action/topic#43628
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:59 PM

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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR
But don't you agree with the principle that the OT should be released, why not really? And who gives a rat's a@@ what the other signers think, isn't the principle of it the most important thing?

I personally like the Special Editions more. So I can live without the originals. Still even then I would sign if it wasn't for all the prequal bashing. Attack of the Clones is a masterpiece how dare people bash a movie that good.

Well, people bashed A New Hope when it first came out and really classics many times are not appreciated in their own time. But even with all that and liking the SE more, you don't want to preserve the originals? What happens if you began to like the OT more in the future? Or if the UE that comes out sucks compared to the '97 SE? Wouldn't you want the SE on DVD if the UE sucked? Why not then the OT if you answered yes to the previous question?

Post: #43624
Topic: Carrie Fisher vs Natalie Portman
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43624/action/topic#43624
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:53 PM

You know, that was just wrong and you haven't even seen the picture yet.

Post: #43616
Topic: Sequel Trilogy? Say it's so!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43616/action/topic#43616
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:40 PM

Yes, do you want to know about Aragorn's son? Arwen's bad hairday? Sam getting fatter at the Shire? Coming to a theater near you......

Lord of the Rings 2: Shire Back in Business

Post: #43615
Topic: MORE CHANGES!!! (for the 2004 OT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43615/action/topic#43615
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:38 PM

I brought popcorn, you have the drinks?

And my wanted Star Wars change of the day in the UE hehe is to have the right lightsaber colors in ANH.

Post: #43614
Topic: Last line of episode 3?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43614/action/topic#43614
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:37 PM

What 'ya talken bout Willis?

Post: #43613
Topic: How do Star Wars people go to the bathroom?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43613/action/topic#43613
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:35 PM

This is what I am talking about, though it appears theforce.net was never able to pick up a copy and review them.

Star Wars Technical Journal of the Planet Tatooine
Star Wars Technical Journal of the Imperial Forces
Star Wars Technical Journal of the Rebel Forces

and I remember reading the answer section of a Star Wars Insider that mentioned the Incredible Cross-Sections showed the spot where the toilet was located on the Falcon, though I don't have that one.

Star Wars Incredible Cross Sections

Post: #43612
Topic: Clone Wars section removed
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43612/action/topic#43612
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:29 PM

Now that I doubt. Besides, if they did, it would mean we would have to wait even longer before Clone Wars hit DVD most likely.

Post: #43609
Topic: Carrie Fisher vs Natalie Portman
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43609/action/topic#43609
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:27 PM

I agree since from the statements of PH and the latest Before the Helmet pic, it seems Anakin was with Padme more then previously thought, at least for me, since the Clone Wars were going on.

Post: #43607
Topic: BOYCOTT (the 2004 OT SE DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43607/action/topic#43607
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:26 PM

In that I agree with you completely jimbo, people should research a product, though many don't, and I will be buying the boxset.

Post: #43605
Topic: A new petition?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43605/action/topic#43605
Time: 16-Apr-2004 1:24 PM

I never said that the Force was not mystical, far from it and I'm sorry if that is what it sounded like. What I am saying is with more of an explanation of it, it becomes less mystical because you know a little more about it. But I personally thought it was fine.

Post: #43551
Topic: BOYCOTT (the 2004 OT SE DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43551/action/topic#43551
Time: 16-Apr-2004 10:35 AM

Another possibility and yours is the one I find the most likely, close to it at least.

Post: #43549
Topic: How many of you guys are a www.starwars.com member
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43549/action/topic#43549
Time: 16-Apr-2004 10:08 AM

It definately would be a risk, but if you all trust each other in a $$ sense, good luck.

Post: #43548
Topic: A new petition?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43548/action/topic#43548
Time: 16-Apr-2004 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by: jimbo
Eros. I don't want to sound mean but that has to be the stupidest list I have heard in a while. The midichlorians was a very cool idea. Death Star plans was awsome. The original wampa and sarlacc scenes suck. The new versions are much better. Probably Han shooting first is the only thing I agree with you on.

I would disagree. While I think midi-chlorians are fine, it does explain why some people can't use the force even though they create it and the Jedi had to have some way of finding new Jedi potentials, it was still contriversal to do. Before Episode 1 the Force was a bit more mystical, a more techniqual explanation did demystify it and to some fans' eyes it went over to Star Trek. (But that is another debate for another time.)

Post: #43547
Topic: Star Wars DVDs selling fast
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43547/action/topic#43547
Time: 16-Apr-2004 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by: Han's Girlfriend
what i mean is that the style of that picture is clearly from the '70s. and since this is not the version of the movies released in '77, '80 and '83, imo it's incredibly hypocritical to play on people's memories of the original edition. i'm 21, meaning that i wasn't around when they came out at that time but when i see that picture i associate it with the pre SE and not with the SE. the SE have their own posters and they should have used those for the DVD release.
and i didn't mean that they do that to con people in believing that those are the original ones but only that they are using the poster of the movies that established SW as a cult trilogy, for releasing the SE.

Ok, I see your point. But I mean that is a pretty popular Star Wars image, but like I said, I agree it can be misleading. Perhaps the disc covers inside have some kind of SE image inside.

Post: #43545
Topic: MORE CHANGES!!! (for the 2004 OT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43545/action/topic#43545
Time: 16-Apr-2004 10:02 AM

Harsh that was, for verbally kill each other you will,

Post: #43542
Topic: COUNT DOOKU
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43542/action/topic#43542
Time: 16-Apr-2004 10:00 AM

To play Devil's Advocate as the saying goes, How much did we know about Darth Vader in ANH? Now was that really character development?

Post: #43540
Topic: Carrie Fisher vs Natalie Portman
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43540/action/topic#43540
Time: 16-Apr-2004 9:56 AM

And/or might have thought that Padme and their child(ren) had died during birth with her.

Post: #43537
Topic: MORE CHANGES!!! (for the 2004 OT DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43537/action/topic#43537
Time: 16-Apr-2004 9:55 AM

I am glad you agree with me and I am glad I finally could put my position into words. And I do agree I don't like what GL is doing with the OT, but I don't consider him a bad man, that's more of a Hitler category to me. And being a Christian, I have to love my enemies. It stinks how right God can be about things.

Post: #43535
Topic: BOYCOTT (the 2004 OT SE DVD release)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43535/action/topic#43535
Time: 16-Apr-2004 9:52 AM

Alright, I see we will not agree on this point. I think there will be just casual fans who will buy it because they think it is the exact Star Wars they remember for the most part, you don't. So I guess the thing would be to agree to disagree.

And as for the main idea of the topic, I must say I have no plan to boycott, calling me a Tory of the American Revolutions but I will continue to petion the King. (j/k)

Post: #43534
Topic: Last line of episode 3?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43534/action/topic#43534
Time: 16-Apr-2004 9:49 AM

Well, I am a sheep in some repects because I might buy it IF it was a better transfer, the only reason I double dip with DVD's for the most part.

Post: #43532
Topic: Changes in 2004 DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43532/action/topic#43532
Time: 16-Apr-2004 9:48 AM

But don't you agree with the principle that the OT should be released, why not really? And who gives a rat's a@@ what the other signers think, isn't the principle of it the most important thing?