JawsTDS

TV’s Frink said:

JawsTDS said:

Yeah, title is strange

Why.

Another three-worded title is kinda off-putting. Especially one that doesn’t seem all that innovative like The Force Awakens was, but that’s just me.

That being said, it’ll grow on me. It always does.

Yeah, title is strange - but digging the red variant of the logo. Really reminds me of the ROTJ logo.

The Last Jedi is the official title. Underwhelming, but welcome.

imperialscum said:
AOTC sucks and apparently you watched it more than once.

FTFY

STAR WARS: Noun Verb Adverb

Lord Haseo said:

Been thinking about this film more over the past couple of days…I think it may be time for my 4th viewing.

It seems to get better and better with repeated viewings, though the first act doesn’t improve all that much.

Another note: I know the ending with Vader hacking the Rebels was literal ‘Star Wars porn’, but it was that moment that really helped elevate the character of Darth Vader for me. We always knew Vader was a bad guy, but we never truly saw at his full potential. The prequels showed us a “saddened, frustrated Vader” whereas the original trilogy showed us the “powerful Lord Vader” without getting too violent and too far gone into his backstory.

In RO, we get a look at him healing from his wounds and going ape-sh*t on the Rebels. This is what we’ve needed for so long. The best part of the movie, to be honest…

generalfrevious said:

As it stands now, the prequels aren’t even really films, and sitting through AOTC/ROTS would be an act of masochism at this point.

Calm down.

-whoops-

suspiciouscoffee said:

JawsTDS said:

I’m sure everyone here has made good points as why you shouldn’t watch them - but if you go in expecting a decent Sci-Fi action flick, you might actually enjoy them. Don’t go in expecting to feel the same magic you felt when watching ANH for the first time. Expect to be slightly thrilled, mostly underwhelmed, and be prepared to scratch your head in confusion… a lot.

…so why bother if the best case scenario is “slightly thrilled, mostly underwhelmed”?

I meant that under the assumption that you’re going in expecting the prequels to be just as riveting as the original trilogy. My mistake, I should’ve clarified.

While they don’t excite me terribly as much as the original trilogy (certain parts do underwhelm me - namely the entirety of AOTC), I think they’re still fun films, and I enjoy going along with the story arc. It would feel weird marathoning Star Wars without watching the prequels, in my opinion.

I’m sure everyone here has made good points as why you shouldn’t watch them - but if you go in expecting a decent Sci-Fi action flick, you might actually enjoy them. Don’t go in expecting to feel the same magic you felt when watching ANH for the first time. Expect to be slightly thrilled, mostly underwhelmed, and be prepared to scratch your head in confusion… a lot. They’re not great films, but there is far worse out there.

If anything, watch the films in 5.1, and disable the center channel. That way you hear the most important part of the prequels - their exceptional soundtracks.

The only Star Wars “film” I would advise that you NEVER watch is the dreaded Clone Wars animated feature. That was absolute garbage, whereas the prequels are nicely packaged garbage.

FunkyDays said:

JawsTDS said:
I still didn’t hear a Wilhelm scream, though. 😉

When Jyn climbs onto the platform at Eadu, she pulls a stormtrooper over the edge; he gives the Wilhelm on his way down.

Doesn’t sound exactly like it, but it’s close.

Watched RO again last night, this time in IMAX! The first hour is still very slowly paced, but entertaining nonetheless. Being that this is the first time I saw a projection of the film that wasn’t incredibly unfocused, I can safely say that the CGI Death Star, Star Destroyers, etc looked amazing. It makes TFA’s effects look cheap. Music was also more appreciated during this viewing - love Krennic’s theme!

I still didn’t hear a Wilhelm scream, though. 😉

It’s a film that seems to get better as you rewatch it, and try and understand it better. It’s way too overwhelming to only watch once.

With today’s tech, I’m sure AOTC and ROTS could be easily upscaled to 4k, and if anything, they’ll benefit (albeit ever-so-slightly) from HDR. Although, I’d rather them put more attention into releasing a proper version of TPM without hideous amounts of DNR. It’s almost as bad as the Predator Blu-ray.

Call me crazy, but you’d think that one of the most popular movie franchises of all time would have been given solid home video transfers, but nope! You know things are f**ked when ROTS is the only presentable Star Wars film on Blu-ray (at least until TFA was released).

Shameful.

So, this is what we know so far…?:

1. Disney buys LucasFilm in October 2012.
2. Reliance scans the OT ('97 SEs) in 4k, presumably starting in 2012, finishes around 2014.
3. Gareth Edwards watches a “recently finished” 4k version of ANH in 2014.
4. Rumors ahoy!

The scans being done in 2012 makes perfect sense. Disney would definitely want something better than the awful 10-bit 1080p telecines that were used for the Blu-rays - they were outdated by the time they were even finished! Even if it’s not the OOT, we will still have much better material to work with.

nickyd47 said:

But Gareth Edwards said that the print he viewed was recently finished?

Recently, as in, when he was doing early pre-production work for Rogue One.

Strange question: is A NEW HOPE the only film that is far too dark on the Blu-ray, or does that affect the entire OT?

Your levels correction add so much life to the transfer – would you use the shadow / highlight settings for EMPIRE and JEDI?

Can anyone specify which edition has the superior sound mix – '97 or 2011? Not sure if there is that much of a difference at all, but I recall hearing great things about the 97 DTS mix.

NeverarGreat said:
For comparison, here’s the version from my project:

That looks simply amazing. I wouldn’t mind watching the entire SE if had that lovely color timing.

Kellythatsit said:
I really can’t believe that people are defending the prequels as decent watchable movies on this thread.

It’s as if people have opinions that are different than yours. Woah!

They’re fun and enjoyable additions to the Star Wars saga, in my opinion. They weren’t made great, but I think they’re mostly great.

Erikstormtrooper said:
I haven’t really seen much mention of this, but this movie really brings back the Force as a tool for the everyman, not just the members of the midichlorian club. Chirrut isn’t a Jedi, but the Force “flows through him” and “controls his actions.” I bet this is a big part of the Star Wars philosophy that Disney wants to project - and I have absolutely no problem with that.

I’m waiting for the inevitable throw away line in Episode VIII: “Ah, the Jedi used to think Midichlorian’s controlled your Force sensitivity, but they were wrong. Modern science proved otherwise!” (in a Rich Evan’s voice, no less)

Now that this old news is resurfacing once more, I find myself reading the same thing: “the negatives for the originals are gone! no chance for the theatrical cuts!”

Mostly everyone who’ve wrote these articles can guess (or perhaps even know) that Reliance scanned the '97 SE. Because of this, they are all under the impression that there’s no simple way to recover the theatrical versions of the OT – because rumor has it the o’negs for the three films were conformed to the '97 SE. However, you don’t need a negative. Interpositives are very close in terms of quality to the original source, and if I’m not mistaken, they retain the original color timing, unlike the negative.

If the negatives actually are recut, then no sweat. Now, if for some reason LucasFilm only have access to the recut negatives and beat-up release prints, then sure – we can panic. But as seem from both MVerta and Poita’s work, a good 35mm release print scan can hold up very nicely.

My rant is over. Goodnight, and Happy New Year.

UPDATE: Debbie Reynolds has passed on, sadly. This is truly awful. I can’t begin to fathom how the family is currently feeling. This is utterly terrible.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/debbie-reynolds-dead/

RO’s soundtrack isn’t the best – but I’ve really come to like the “Imperial” and “Guardian of the Whills” suite. And of course, “Hope” is great. The sheer terror of Vader is encompassed all in one track. Very happy they didn’t use the “Imperial March” motif here…