Please be joking…
I think he’s saying "it’s all OT except Hyden."
But, I’m not sure because the Lady and the Hat don’t have anything to do with the OT.
Yeah, I was referring to Hayden. Though I’d rather have him over Dave Filoni any day (even though we’re getting both, sadly).
Confirmed guests at the 40th Anniversary panel. One of these is not like the other…
TSMuxer is a good program to use.
This may be the wrong category to put this in, but I’d rather this not get cluttered in with the proper preservations on this forum.
I have a LaserDisc copy of this rare Italian-American 1988 film NIGHT OF THE SHARKS, and it’s the only high quality source for the botched American cut (4 whole minutes were trimmed). I tried capturing with my CLD-980 but it came out as CRAP (even with an ext. TBC and AviSynth filters). It’s also open-matte.
I really want to preserve this cut as it’s not available anywhere else in HQ, but I don’t have the money to shell out for a more suitable player like an X9. Would anyone be able to capture this release for me on a higher-end player with S-Video? I will be more than happy to pay for postage, provide a HDD, etc - just need a proper machine to capture this cut of the film on.
Mods, please feel free to move this as you see fit. Thank you.
Sooooo Frink pointing out hypocrisy is harassment, but slinging threats of moderation action and banning him isn’t?
…ok
Gotta love Alderaan.
A few do, a few don’t. What’s the big deal?
Nothing, really. I’m simply trying to see the logic behind people who are vehemently against the new films, and who believe that they are objectively trash. They’re more than welcome to think that, of course – but that’s just like, their opinion, man.
JawsTDS said:
Can you provide evidence to support your claim that a majority of this forum hates the new movies?I said some or most. It’s a hard range to pin down.
You also said “a few” liked the new movies, which implies that the majority (or as you say, some) doesn’t. Which is it?
On another note, I’m personally very excited to rewatch this gem thanks to the Digital HD release. The film seems to continuously grow on me, as does the soundtrack. I really hope this is a sign of things to come from Disney.
Alderaan said:
…continues to enjoy the new films like a few of you do, and understands that some or most people here aren’t going to like the new abominations that Disney keeps putting out.
Can you provide evidence to support your claim that a majority of this forum hates the new movies?
Don’t embarrass yourself. It is silly to say TFA is good film, but this is getting beyond ridiculous.
The closer we get to a legal Blu-ray release, the more I’m anticipating fan-edits with an actual crawl. Considering the film opens on a still frame in space, you could easily do a pan down to it from a starfield (combined in Photoshop). Splice in the 5.1 theme from TFA (as well as opening visuals) and you’re set.
…also that Darth Vader scene still holds up very nicely. 10/10.
Did anyone else notice just how much smaller the Lucasfilm logo and “a long time ago…” text was at the beginning of Rogue One compared to the saga films?
I asked the same thing the night it came out on these forums. I’m shocked no one else noticed this… it’s incredibly distracting for me, personally. I hope a fan-editor will splice in the sequence from TFA in the inevitable fan edit.
What exactly does it mean for the negative to be disassembled?
The negative has been conformed to the SE since 1997. George decided to cut the changes directly into the negative because, as far as he was concerned, the SE was the official version of the movie now.
We recently got confirmation from the relevant person at Fox that the pieces of the negative replaced for the SE were indeed put into storage and not discarded.
I think I remember reading on zombie’s website that the negative need not be disassembled to reconstruct the unaltered version. Because a modern restoration would be done digitally anyway, they would simply need to take a scan of the o-neg as it is now, scan in the pieces that got replaced, and rebuild everything in the digital realm.
For further context, the negative is the first-generation source for the footage used in the final cut. They are also without any color timing as that comes later in the process, and unlike a 35mm print, which is a few generations down from the negative, there is only one layer of grain to deal with (this is not the case with SW as there is optical compositing).*
*if I’ve made any mistakes, please correct me.
^Correction: the rest of the films should have been made to match the original from the start.
4k restoration of OT aside, does anyone know the details of the “restoration” of TPM that was used for the Blu-ray? Curious if that was 4k - and if they have the film sans DNR.
All this talk makes me wonder why J.J. funded a remastering of PHANTASM but not STAR WARS '77. Then again, I suppose they were already in the process of the 4k scans by the time he was in talks to direct TFA.
JawsTDS said:
I hear this a lot.If you got out, you wouldn’t have to hear it anymore.
…and miss Frink’s antics? Not a chance.
At this rate, I don’t care if it’s the OOT or the SE
Get out.
I hear this a lot.
At this rate, I don’t care if it’s the OOT or the SE - anything would be miles ahead of the current Blu-rays. Though I wouldn’t mind both!
It also needs better music as well. I found the soundtrack quite souless and generic.
I felt the same initially, but the more I listen to it, the more ‘Star Wars’-y it sounds. I’d say it’s giving TFA a run for its money.
It’s a bummer that he has to deal with so many weirdos and jerks on twitter, but I don’t get this smug indifference about the original version. It’s not a good look for people who (either as fans, or working at LFL, or blogging about their particular Star Wars-related fetishes) are heavily invested in all the other goofy details of that world.
That’s typical of his segment of the fandom. People who love the “saga” (if you can call it that) tend to be the most rude regarding the OOT.
EDIT: Just to be clear I still don’t believe that he knows what he’s talking about.
Gee, it’s almost as if when you’re rude and condescending to peopleabout things THEY like (in this case, the Prequels and the SE) they may be rude and condescending about things YOU like (the OOT).
The OOT goes way beyond “things we like” to “things that were stolen from us.”
…but that doesn’t change the fact that ever since the release of the SE and the Prequels, people like you have been smug and condescending toward those who like it, using big words that make you sound smart such as “objectively wrong”.
But he’s right. Objectively they are bad films, but that doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy them and no one here seems to take on that ‘mentality’ - save for some trolls. I love the prequels and the Special Editions, but I feel perfectly at home on this forum, compared to the other hundreds out there.
Despite liking the SEs, I would give anything for the OOT to be released in HD and I understand why people believe they have had it “stolen from them”. These are films that influenced their entire lives… but are now conformed to a new ‘vision’. Imagine how that makes them feel… they feel cheated.
It’s not about which version you like, it’s about preserving the cultural / emotional impact of the original big three.
After all this, maybe it’s not the OOT - it’s the SET, but properly remastered in 4k. If that’s the case, I’ll still be just as happy. I cannot stand to look at the Blu-rays anymore. Thanks Harmy… 😉
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/834885989583622145
Oh, God.You don’t think…
I feel like this guy pulls stuff out his ass sometimes, merely to shut people up… and I really hope he’s wrong.
(SORT OF SPOILERS FOR SW:BLOODLINE MAYBE)
Having just finished reading Bloodline, I’ve only just realised it was Korrie who Leia sends to her vainful death…
J.J. prioritized ‘fan service’ over effectiveness.
What? I think this is proof of the opposite.
He wanted Leia to appear at a certain moment in the film, for maximum “nostalgia” effect. Thus, important scenes like this were left on the cutting room floor.
Maximum nostalgia or not, that was the most effective place to put her introduction. I think having her in the film from the start would have been fan service when she only becomes important to the story halfway through.
That being said, I think Leia’s introduction in the final cut is perfect, but we lost scenes that could have provided much needed context.
Is that context really necessary for this film though? Whether the Resistance has the full support of the Republic isn’t something that really affects the story of TFA in any significant way.
Not to say there couldn’t or shouldn’t have been more context, but it wasn’t worth sacrificing the pacing and structure of the film just for the sake of these Resistance scenes.
I’d say it does need context, especially since this cut scene shows us Korrie’s relationship with Leia. In the final cut we only see her being vaporized, with no idea who she was.
That was my biggest gripe with TFA - there was no thorough explanation as to who was doing what in the New Republic. It is just miraculously destroyed… again.
TFA Restructured v2 may re-incorporate this scene into the Resistance Base, which would make it my go-to version of the film.
Still need to watch the first version, as I hear it really fixes up the final act of the film. If that scene can somehow be wedged into the film, I’ll definitely give it a watch.
(SORT OF SPOILERS FOR SW:BLOODLINE MAYBE)
Having just finished reading Bloodline, I’ve only just realised it was Korrie who Leia sends to her vainful death…
J.J. prioritized ‘fan service’ over effectiveness.
What? I think this is proof of the opposite.
He wanted Leia to appear at a certain moment in the film, for maximum “nostalgia” effect. Thus, important scenes like this were left on the cutting room floor.
Maximum nostalgia or not, that was the most effective place to put her introduction. I think having her in the film from the start would have been fan service when she only becomes important to the story halfway through.
That being said, I think Leia’s introduction in the final cut is perfect, but we lost scenes that could have provided much needed context.
Is that context really necessary for this film though? Whether the Resistance has the full support of the Republic isn’t something that really affects the story of TFA in any significant way.
Not to say there couldn’t or shouldn’t have been more context, but it wasn’t worth sacrificing the pacing and structure of the film just for the sake of these Resistance scenes.
I’d say it does need context, especially since this cut scene shows us Korrie’s relationship with Leia. In the final cut we only see her being vaporized, with no idea who she was.
That was my biggest gripe with TFA - there was no thorough explanation as to who was doing what in the New Republic. It is just miraculously destroyed… again.
(SORT OF SPOILERS FOR SW:BLOODLINE MAYBE)
Having just finished reading Bloodline, I’ve only just realised it was Korrie who Leia sends to her vainful death…
J.J. prioritized ‘fan service’ over effectiveness.
What? I think this is proof of the opposite.
He wanted Leia to appear at a certain moment in the film, for maximum “nostalgia” effect. Thus, important scenes like this were left on the cutting room floor.
That being said, I think Leia’s introduction in the final cut is perfect, but we lost scenes that could have provided much needed context.