Omg š
That is exactly what I was imagining haha. Sorta like how Tony Stark has a bunch of fancy Iron Man suits, Kylo has a bunch of unique TIEs. One of them made of pure gold lmao.
If I was Supreme Leader of the galaxy I would definitely have several rides. It would be like the richest person in the world only driving one car around.
I suppose it would be cool to make this second one look unique, but even if we canāt get it right itās really not that big of a deal. Maybe Kylo just really likes that color scheme so he does the same one on all of his ships.
I donāt know I for one donāt understand why we would address one continuity issue (the ship/wayfinder) without addressing others.
Once you go down the rabbit hole of fixing these issues thereās no coming back out until they are all eliminated lol.
I think its quite funny how this movie and ROTJ share so many of the same issues, and Iāll probably get flack for saying it but after watching V1 I enjoy this movie more than ROTJ, and even TFA.
No stones thrown from here. I actually agree with this sentiment. I dislike most of ROTJ except for the Luke/Palpatine/Vader stuff. And TFA was always kinda boring.
We could make the TIE on Pasana the same TIE from TLJ? (of course non of us are miracle workers)
Iām surprised JJ didnāt do that to Johnsonsās TIE in this movie since those two enjoy destroying each otherās creations in these movies. Lol.
Yeah and he also repairs anything that he didnāt like Rian destroying (Kyloās mask cough cough).
Cāmon, man, it was a continuation of Kylo Ren learning from his failure in TLJ. After the throne room scene he stops letting the past die because itās a horrible idea, look what happened between him and Rey, he even just becomes Supreme Leader of the First Order instead of creating a new Order altogether.
Chill my guy it was a joke.
I actually feel like it was a good decision on his part, granted not for the same reasons as you.
Watching TROS:A is going to be enough of an elevated* experience compared to the theatrical. Much more so than I imagined when creating this thread out of obligation. Iām impressed and happy with it, as you all know.
Also, I for one disagree that TROS is fundamentally flawed. The novel, if a bit messy, is proof that it isnāt.
Nah, heād bring back Snoke to be behind it all again and then have him trip and hit his head and die. Roll credits
My expectations have been thoroughly subverted.
We could make the TIE on Pasana the same TIE from TLJ? (of course non of us are miracle workers)
Iām surprised JJ didnāt do that to Johnsonsās TIE in this movie since those two enjoy destroying each otherās creations in these movies. Lol.
Yeah and he also repairs anything that he didnāt like Rian destroying (Kyloās mask cough cough).
If there were an Episode X directed by Rian he would continue the meta conversation by putting Finn and Rose back into a relationship or something lmao.
Man, Iām sensing a common theme here. Justice League was written in part by Chris Terrio and it was a big pile of doo-doo. But enough people asked for an extended/redone version and now (mostly) everyone likes the version to be released tomorrow.
I just hope that TROS, which was written in part by Chris Terrio, gets the same treatment. If it does happen, it would probably be released in 2024, so this project needs to be enough to tide us over until then. I think weāve definitely accomplished that and some more, given what we have.
I do wonder what the thought process was, or if the TIE originally wasnāt meant to be destroyed or pop up throughout the rest of the movie. Itās not impossible for him to just have multiple ships or whatever, but it is weird for the movie to present what could be read as a plot hole like that. Just kind of weird.
I bet it was clarified at one point, but for some reason it was believed that the finale of the Skywalker saga didnāt need to be longer than the rest of the movies. So they started ripping out āunneededā scenes and clarifications.
IMO this movie needed to be 3 hours long in order to work right. Reminds me of the whole Justice League situation. I hope one day we get a longer cut just like with that movie.
Yeah either way weāve already made it much more believable by removing the TIE completely exploding. Flames donāt seem to affect the wayfinder, but I doubt it could withstand an explosion.
I still remember watching the movie opening night and having people gasp at that moment because they thought that Kylo literally just freaking died. Lmao.
Did he have any more reason to take the Wayfinder to the DSII, though?
I feel like he does. I made that distinction in my previous post. He first wanted to push Rey to her limits so that she would tap into her āunlimited powahā. Then he would later try to convince her to come to Exegol with him. Would be risky to bring the wayfinder with him for the first part. I know I wouldnāt if I were him.
And MR, that is somewhat true. Although Iād imagine that if the ship was considered a prototype in TLJ that they would have made at least one more since then in the year gap between films.
But it is weird that the Wayfinder would be on a second resort one rather than the first one. Unless he just retrieved it from the smashed first one. Did it go through two fiery destructions of TIEs? Sith engineering is robust.
He didnāt have any reason to bring the wayfinder with him to Pasaana. His goal was to test Reyās powers to their limit at that point. He probably disconnected it and stashed it somewhere. But when he went to Endor he was planning on taking Rey with him to Exegol, thus why he would bring it along in his TIE.
Honestly itās not that big of a deal though.
The way I see it is just like any other name. Are people called by their last names sometimes? Yes, but not as often as their first. So personally I donāt see the issue at all.
Also itās called the Knights of Ren becauseā¦ he is Ren. Here is the original guy he took the name from:
Okay guys, I did another version of the Porg shot.
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/FEMMCNNU
Looking good to me!
Yeah you just never see stuff like that where I live so I assumed it looked unnatural. But comparing what Hal provided with that image definitely allows me to appreciate it more š
I could dial the pink back since itās barely purple anyway. Feels very Easter.
It feels very early Irish Morning to me instead of a soundstage, so itās perfect in my book
I suppose youāre right.
That is from Ireland.
Iām definitely alright with pink then (like in the image above).
Well as long as it matches the sky when she is grabbing the wayfinder Iām fine with it then.
Just want to make sure that it doesnāt look too different from the mornings of Ahch-To in TLJ.
EDIT: redacted
So you arenāt adjusting the sky at least a bit? There was a pretty good point that it doesnāt match the sky when Rey is grabbing the wayfinder at all.
Hereās what I intend as the final look and ordering of the Ach-To sequence. I tried to add a very subtle purple to the sunrise. (Any footage before or after the sequence is not color corrected in this clip, nor is the saber flashback.)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16kfx-ovM2HjYCqiexhK76qnAAIuq-guZ/view?usp=drivesdk
Personally I prefer Neverarās original regrade for the sunrise, feels more natural.
Same here. I understand wanting Leia represented, but I fail to understand how the color of the sky could possibly convey such a thing for the average person. Unless youāre one of those literature teachers who try to find meaning in every single possible detail in the story. Haha.
Otherwise, great work here everyone.
Looks like it was in fact removed. Here it is put back into the Mustafar sequence:
Definitely needs some color correction. Thereās a green hue over it. Not to mention the fact that it is slightly abrupt (and I know how much some people here dislike abrupt shots). That said, there is plenty of camera flipping leading up to it so it feels natural to me at least.
Have we already discussed this reintegration? I donāt remember. If we have Iām sorry for bringing it back up again. I just feel like adding anything to the Mustafar sequence, even if it is only a second long, is worth it.
Sometimes less is more. We all agree Mustafar feels too fast. But adding a blink and you miss it shot to pad the runtime isnāt going to make it feel less rushed, in fact it would do the exact opposite.
I agree that it might not make it feel less rushed, but I completely disagree that it would do the exact opposite. Itās just kinda there.
Honestly I just like the shot because itās referenced in the novelization. Basically itās described that he was in such a fit of rage in the fight that he had to shake himself out of it.
Looks like it was in fact removed. Here it is put back into the Mustafar sequence:
Definitely needs some color correction. Thereās a green hue over it. Not to mention the fact that it is slightly abrupt (and I know how much some people here dislike abrupt shots). That said, there is plenty of camera flipping leading up to it so it feels natural to me at least.
Have we already discussed this reintegration? I donāt remember. If we have Iām sorry for bringing it back up again. I just feel like adding anything to the Mustafar sequence, even if it is only a second long, is worth it.
When Kylo was on Mustafar and he has killed everyone, he turns around sharply as if he has heard something call to him. I know youāve added sounds to when he picks up the wayfinder but would it possible for the sounds be extended and for them to start just before he quickly turns.
That reminds me - since we have different visions for Rey and Kylo, did we end up removing that one shot of Kylo twitching on Mustafar? I feel like that might be able to be repurposed for this idea here.
The 3PO stuff is hilarious. Nicely done.
Youāre definitely taking it very seriously to leave the original structure in place! I think thatās great. I know if I was rewriting some of these scenes I would just slap what I liked better in without considering the structure.
I think weāre pretty much set at this point with possible changes. Iād like to be proven wrong, but thatās just how I feel.
Looking forward to seeing puppet show samples in the near future.