Jar Jar Bricks

Let me put it this way: when he says that there “were always whispers” that he was searching for ways to live forever, that retcons the original trilogy. In the OT, nearly all of the galaxy thought Palpatine was a normal dude that got disfigured by the Jedi. And Palpatine would have only ever shared his cloning plans with his Sith loyalists on Exegol. So there is no reason why there would be rumors around the known galaxy of that type.

That said, I think the most important thing here is removing the lightsaber appearing in that shot. Do you believe that is possible?

jarbear said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Hal 9000 said:

It’s just one shot that can be cropped? Yeah, that might be fine, then.

Correct, the lightsaber does not appear in her conversation with Leia right after.

I find it funny how Merry of the Resistance was delegated as the “try to explain Palpatine’s return in as many different ways as possible” character. It’s hilarious.

He’s basically the audience trying to “rationalize” how Palpatine came back via a verbal bullet point of possibilities.

So in some ways, he breaks the forth wall maybe? Lol.

That’s precisely why this particular line should be removed. We have honed in on the whole cloning thing so we needn’t muddy things up any further.

Hal 9000 said:

It’s just one shot that can be cropped? Yeah, that might be fine, then.

Correct, the lightsaber does not appear in her conversation with Leia right after.

I find it funny how Merry of the Resistance was delegated as the “try to explain Palpatine’s return in as many different ways as possible” character. It’s hilarious.

ThisIsCreation said:

Totally I understand. His cut of not worked really well to fix it but I understand wanting the structure to remain the same.

Thought I’d bring it up here incase anyone wants to give it a shot and fix it with vfx

Who ever said it would have to involve VFX? I just removed the portion of the shot where the lightsaber is visible.

https://youtu.be/FSPREteSKcU

Honestly, I would prefer to remove the shot completely. So Rey slips away from the crowd and we don’t see her until she comes back with the book. Unfortunately I was having trouble with the audio because Poe’s line plays mostly off screen.

Also it’s strange how we hear Merry quietly say in the background of that shot, “There were always whispers of his hunger to cheat death.” Like, what? Why would the galaxy at large ever have reason to believe that? Most of them didn’t even know he was a Sith in the OT.

sherlockpotter said:

Thinking out loud here about other potential “minor” tweaks. What if we remove the scene where Random First Order Officer says “We’ve analyzed the necklace! It’s made by the Pig People of Pasaana!”

Pretty sure we already tweaked this scene a ton of pages back. I believe we pushed it forward to later. Not sure exactly where but I believe it is somewhere by Lando’s scene.

Anakin Starkiller said:

This should go in the writing and re-writing section, not the fanedit section.

On whose authority? Yours?

For the record, I believe that section is specifically for script rewrites. This is a fan edit of a novel.

oviniboy said:

Movies Remastered said:

I may have been looking at this for far too many hours but I’m not happy with the timing change on Rey’s close-up. I’ve had to slow parts down to almost 50% just to get the sequence timing right.

I’m open to scrutiny on this one…?

https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1417302/action/topic#1417302

great stuff here folks, so happy everyone agreed with the removal “take sabers to Exegol” line

There really isn’t anything to disagree with lol.

It literally just gives more agency to Rey’s character at the cost of nothing special.

Looks pretty good on my phone!

I don’t know if it’s just YouTube, but there is a certain part of the video which seems to get kinda pixelated. Maybe it’s the part that transitions from slow-mo to regular motion?

EDIT: Scrap that. Don’t see it on my computer. I think the slow-mo effect is subtle enough to be unnoticeable, but we’ll have to see what others say.

Insert the following into ESB:

https://youtu.be/UwezY05soDY

Now the twist when you watch the movies in chronological order is that Anakin was right; Padme was turned against him because she cheated on him with Obi-Wan.

CaptainFaraday said:

I’m considering having her conversation with Luke include something along the lines of the Dark Side not being some evil external entity out there which pulls you towards it, but rather it’s created internally by our choices. Resisting the Dark Side isn’t about struggling against some bad monster, it’s about making the choice between what is right and what is easy. Luke would intend this to be reassuring - she’s the one who consciously decides whether she falls to the Dark Side or not, she doesn’t need to fret about accidentally tripping and falling into it. But it’s a double-edged sword, because that also means it is entirely on her shoulders to make those choices.

So when she goes into the confrontation with Palpatine, she doesn’t want to be a cold-blooded murderer, killing an unarmed old man on a life support thing. She could justify it to herself, but that’s even worse - then she’d be a murderer who can justify when it’s okay for her personally to murder. It’s why Palpatine was so delighted when Anakin killed Dooku, and why he goaded Luke into attacking him - it’s a slippery slope to the Dark Side.

Thank you, this is what I was trying to tell the people who thought Rey killing Palpatine was too forced and that it doesn’t make sense because it was the right thing to do. Just didn’t know how to word it. Yes, she doesn’t look like she wants to do it, but if she had, she would be killing an unarmed old man. There’s really no way you can spin that lol. The Final Order doing the killing of the fleet may be under the command of him, but killing him wouldn’t stop them from attacking.

DominicCobb said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

DominicCobb said:

Hal 9000 said:

Aw, hell, here’s a poll. I’ll check it at the end of the day, about 12 hours from now, and we’ll see. I really don’t much care one way or the other.

https://linkto.run/p/0BLHJV5H

And for reference, here’s the clip again: https://vimeo.com/523070856

Hal, I love you bud but really? I can’t think of one good reason to include this line, and you already said you don’t want to!

Haha you’re just scared because “yes” is currently winning.

…what? I don’t have a dog in this fight, I have my own edit.

Oh I didn’t realize, sorry. Thought that was just a hypothetical WIP edit.

I guess you could say, “this is your fight”, am I right?

I love it!

EDIT: You mentioned wanting it to be a mono track so I exported it from the source as such:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ULLVHTRHp8k6STeZfmy6MjKsJWZBUCPW/view?usp=sharing

Perfect. That gives us some time to see if a wizard like MR can pull this off when he gets his stuff back.

jarbear said:

I like the idea of adding the line, maybe based on what MR is suggesting. Just at the current state, doesn’t quite work. So I am voting yes, in principal, if it can be used … but not by this “test” clip.

Exactly. I knew people were voting on this incorrectly because the description of the poll wasn’t good enough.

I dislike how obvious it is that the camera zooms in on Rey’s face and then when it reverses it visibly zooms out.

I guess we can’t have this conversation on this thread anymore, but I’m going to see what I can do about this whole ordeal on the other thread.

EDIT: Just noticed that this poll doesn’t seem to prevent people from voting twice either. Might want to consider that as well Hal.

DominicCobb said:

Hal 9000 said:

Aw, hell, here’s a poll. I’ll check it at the end of the day, about 12 hours from now, and we’ll see. I really don’t much care one way or the other.

https://linkto.run/p/0BLHJV5H

And for reference, here’s the clip again: https://vimeo.com/523070856

Hal, I love you bud but really? I can’t think of one good reason to include this line, and you already said you don’t want to!

Haha you’re just scared because “yes” is currently winning.

Hal, I think you should have been more clear with the poll. It should have said, “Use the line in the way I have it posted on vimeo?”. I think too many people are voting yes because they want the line implemented, but I have a hard time believing the way you have it right now is the way we would want it.

But maybe I’m wrong. I just think there are better ways to implement it (like MR suggested).

EDIT: Thank you brother, stole the words out of my mouth.
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Movies Remastered said:

Awwwww! I wish I had my computers. Basically, I think it would work by taking out the “you’ll take both Saber to Exagol” and replace it with “We’ll always be with you”. Then move the “but this is your fight” after that line. It’ll take some work shifting the clip arrangement but that’ll work in many ways.

I agree with this. Just dislike how it is currently implemented on Hal’s vote so I said “no”.

I agree it works better than a thousand generations. But I’ve already argued my point for keeping “but this is your fight” so I’ll shut up now.

But your point is proven wrong if you look at the whole sentence: “We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight.” As in, she has to initiate the fight but they will help her when she does.

DZ-330 said:

Here’s my take on the scene. By removing some lines it allows Rey to “take it upon herself” to go to Exegol. She doesn’t need Luke telling her what do to.

https://vimeo.com/523203323

Would it be possible to squeeze in “but this is your fight” right after that line? Or does that defeat the entire purpose of your work there?

I would argue that the key scenes of this movie are actually the people rising up all over the galaxy and Rey choosing the Skywalker name. Not Luke raising the x-wing. That theme already plays on one of those. Which brings me to my next point…

No offense, Sherlock, but I completely dislike using that song there. It just makes me think of the people rising up montage and removes all of my emotional attachment to the current scene.

DominicCobb said:

Sometimes I read this thread and I feel like I’m losing my mind. I still don’t understand what the point of adding this line would be. I don’t blame you guys because all we have to work with when it comes to additional stuff is scraps, but… I mean they’re scraps.

It’s an incredibly touching line imo. The point of adding it would be to enhance the meaning of the ending of the movie. Rey chooses the family name of the people who will always be with her and never abandon her.

That’s why I’ve come to the conclusion that the only place the line belongs is at the end of the movie. But most people prefer silence.

EDIT: Just noticed Hal’s poll. My personal vote is to NOT include it not because I don’t like the line but because I don’t like where it is currently placed.

I guess I went overboard on hyping up the clip and it was turned into a joke as a result lmao.

I agree, it needs to be much subtler because my goal was for it to be a reminiscent of the Jedi Voices scene from the climax.

sherlockpotter said:

EDIT: Wait…what if we just cut the lady out? Rey stands up, looks back, sees the ghosties, and flies away in the Falcon?

Kinda betrays the title of the movie. She needs to declare her newfound family.

Anyways, with the puppet show implemented soon, the ending scene will be a nearly exact replica of that Aki Aki lady asking for her last name. So the ending scene will be there to reflect her growth since then (she feels worthy to claim the Skywalker name now).

You know how sometimes writing out a joke is interpreted as something serious? Well this is the exact opposite of that lmao.

Let’s just say it was a joke of mine, because I’m getting the impression that nobody likes it.

I can also tell there is a bit of reversion at the end of the clip there.

Did we also dislike where I placed the line at the end of the movie? If so, I say we can put this whole line placement idea to rest.