Yeah either way we’ve already made it much more believable by removing the TIE completely exploding. Flames don’t seem to affect the wayfinder, but I doubt it could withstand an explosion.
I still remember watching the movie opening night and having people gasp at that moment because they thought that Kylo literally just freaking died. Lmao.
Did he have any more reason to take the Wayfinder to the DSII, though?
I feel like he does. I made that distinction in my previous post. He first wanted to push Rey to her limits so that she would tap into her “unlimited powah”. Then he would later try to convince her to come to Exegol with him. Would be risky to bring the wayfinder with him for the first part. I know I wouldn’t if I were him.
And MR, that is somewhat true. Although I’d imagine that if the ship was considered a prototype in TLJ that they would have made at least one more since then in the year gap between films.
But it is weird that the Wayfinder would be on a second resort one rather than the first one. Unless he just retrieved it from the smashed first one. Did it go through two fiery destructions of TIEs? Sith engineering is robust.
He didn’t have any reason to bring the wayfinder with him to Pasaana. His goal was to test Rey’s powers to their limit at that point. He probably disconnected it and stashed it somewhere. But when he went to Endor he was planning on taking Rey with him to Exegol, thus why he would bring it along in his TIE.
Honestly it’s not that big of a deal though.
The way I see it is just like any other name. Are people called by their last names sometimes? Yes, but not as often as their first. So personally I don’t see the issue at all.
Also it’s called the Knights of Ren because… he is Ren. Here is the original guy he took the name from:
Okay guys, I did another version of the Porg shot.
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/FEMMCNNU
Looking good to me!
Yeah you just never see stuff like that where I live so I assumed it looked unnatural. But comparing what Hal provided with that image definitely allows me to appreciate it more 😃
I could dial the pink back since it’s barely purple anyway. Feels very Easter.
It feels very early Irish Morning to me instead of a soundstage, so it’s perfect in my book
I suppose you’re right.
That is from Ireland.
I’m definitely alright with pink then (like in the image above).
Well as long as it matches the sky when she is grabbing the wayfinder I’m fine with it then.
Just want to make sure that it doesn’t look too different from the mornings of Ahch-To in TLJ.
EDIT: redacted
So you aren’t adjusting the sky at least a bit? There was a pretty good point that it doesn’t match the sky when Rey is grabbing the wayfinder at all.
Here’s what I intend as the final look and ordering of the Ach-To sequence. I tried to add a very subtle purple to the sunrise. (Any footage before or after the sequence is not color corrected in this clip, nor is the saber flashback.)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16kfx-ovM2HjYCqiexhK76qnAAIuq-guZ/view?usp=drivesdk
Personally I prefer Neverar’s original regrade for the sunrise, feels more natural.
Same here. I understand wanting Leia represented, but I fail to understand how the color of the sky could possibly convey such a thing for the average person. Unless you’re one of those literature teachers who try to find meaning in every single possible detail in the story. Haha.
Otherwise, great work here everyone.
Looks like it was in fact removed. Here it is put back into the Mustafar sequence:
Definitely needs some color correction. There’s a green hue over it. Not to mention the fact that it is slightly abrupt (and I know how much some people here dislike abrupt shots). That said, there is plenty of camera flipping leading up to it so it feels natural to me at least.
Have we already discussed this reintegration? I don’t remember. If we have I’m sorry for bringing it back up again. I just feel like adding anything to the Mustafar sequence, even if it is only a second long, is worth it.
Sometimes less is more. We all agree Mustafar feels too fast. But adding a blink and you miss it shot to pad the runtime isn’t going to make it feel less rushed, in fact it would do the exact opposite.
I agree that it might not make it feel less rushed, but I completely disagree that it would do the exact opposite. It’s just kinda there.
Honestly I just like the shot because it’s referenced in the novelization. Basically it’s described that he was in such a fit of rage in the fight that he had to shake himself out of it.
Looks like it was in fact removed. Here it is put back into the Mustafar sequence:
Definitely needs some color correction. There’s a green hue over it. Not to mention the fact that it is slightly abrupt (and I know how much some people here dislike abrupt shots). That said, there is plenty of camera flipping leading up to it so it feels natural to me at least.
Have we already discussed this reintegration? I don’t remember. If we have I’m sorry for bringing it back up again. I just feel like adding anything to the Mustafar sequence, even if it is only a second long, is worth it.
When Kylo was on Mustafar and he has killed everyone, he turns around sharply as if he has heard something call to him. I know you’ve added sounds to when he picks up the wayfinder but would it possible for the sounds be extended and for them to start just before he quickly turns.
That reminds me - since we have different visions for Rey and Kylo, did we end up removing that one shot of Kylo twitching on Mustafar? I feel like that might be able to be repurposed for this idea here.
The 3PO stuff is hilarious. Nicely done.
You’re definitely taking it very seriously to leave the original structure in place! I think that’s great. I know if I was rewriting some of these scenes I would just slap what I liked better in without considering the structure.
I think we’re pretty much set at this point with possible changes. I’d like to be proven wrong, but that’s just how I feel.
Looking forward to seeing puppet show samples in the near future.
It’s the kind of thing that happens all the time when editing a movie. I dunno what more to say about it.
Tell that to Adywan 😉
Maybe I’ve just been too spoiled by those projects. Definitely a possibility.
And now that I’ve been able to actually take a look at the scene where Rey goes to get the, ahem, SACRED JEDI TEXTS during the Palpatine speech sequence, you’d really have to zoom way into it to be able to remove the saber. It’s just a little continuity error. There are hundreds in SW, so I’m not going to fret about it.
It’s hard for me to understand how some people are able to overlook small errors like that without going crazy, but I guess I’m in the minority because of that lmao. Maybe I’m the crazy one.
You have a similar thing happen in your The Approaching Storm edit if you didn’t know. It has to do with Anakin’s lightsaber appearing and disappearing because you removed him losing it to begin with in the chase scene.
Not a whole lot you can do about it without removing even more stuff (or doing some insane VFX).
Is anybody familiar with moving audio lines to the side while still keeping the music intact? I’m trying to remove Rey grabbing the books in the middle of the Resistance meeting discussing Palpatine’s message for the following reasons:
- Rey’s lightsaber is seen prominently on her even though she just gave it to Leia.
- The Jedi texts were left by Rey on a crate, but when she returns to them they are suddenly in the box.
- A line plays in the background that is contradictory to the original trilogy. It suggests that the galaxy always knew about Palpatine’s Force abilities.
Any help would be appreciated in this endeavor. If we can get this working right I think Hal would be more interested in it.
I don’t doubt it’d be doable, that’s not the issue. The first thing to try would be to edit out the portions of relevant audio from the channels in which it appears, then cover that with stuff from other channels. Sometimes you can get more mileage out of adding audio from multiple other channels to avoid a direct repeat of just one channel.
My editing software doesn’t have access to specific audio channels (as far as I’m aware) but I might be able to stitch this together using Audacity exports. 3PO’s lines are luckily isolated enough to make this possible I believe.
EDIT: So apparently something got even more messed up with my editing software. Now whenever I try to remove a separated audio track it removes the video above it along with it (even though I’ve separated them). Well, I guess I can’t do fan edits anymore unless I either fix this or find new software.
A line plays in the background that is contradictory to the original trilogy. It suggests that the galaxy always knew about Palpatine’s Force abilities.
Remember when Rey reminded Luke of his redemption of Vader and his immediate response after that “he became a legend” (the inference being that the galaxy learned of it post-OT)? Think of it in that way.
This thinking would work, but the problem is that the line specifically says the word always. If that word weren’t included in the line, there would be no issue. But with it there, the idea is that people have, well, always considered the idea that Palpatine is trying to cheat death. Since he was considered a normal dude until post-ROTJ, this line is blatantly false unless you wish to contradict established canon.
Is anybody familiar with moving audio lines to the side while still keeping the music intact? I’m trying to remove Rey grabbing the books in the middle of the Resistance meeting discussing Palpatine’s message for the following reasons:
Any help would be appreciated in this endeavor. If we can get this working right I think Hal would be more interested in it.
Hal’s already said he doesn’t mind the line or the continuity error so I don’t see a reason to continue this topic here.
JEDIT: To be clear, I will see if a simple crop can remove the saber from the shot. If not, oh well.
Cool. Could you send whatever you come up with my way even if you decide not to use it? The crop feature on my editing software is terrible. Doesn’t let you select precise number amounts.
Hal’s already said he doesn’t mind the line or the continuity error so I don’t see a reason to continue this topic here.
He hasn’t commented on the second continuity error yet.
Might have missed it, but where did he say the line was ok?
Sorry for the double comment. Here is the visuals without the audio. Can you tell where the cut is?
If anybody is really good at working with audio this might be possible. I believe 3PO’s line would need to be pushed over a bit (since his lips don’t move).
I can absolutely create that visually, but it isn’t going to have sound. The problem is that there isn’t enough space for the first half of Poe’s line to play because most of it happens off screen when Rey is grabbing the book.
I think this would be the best possible route to take if we’re really considering cutting out The Hobbit’s line (which I don’t think is necessary but I understand why people would take umbrage with it)
That is actually a completely different issue that I didn’t even notice until messing with this scene. The primary purpose of this would be to fix the lightsaber continuity issue.
Here’s another continuity issue: Rey leaves the books lying on some crates when the Falcon arrives. When she returns to get them, they are suddenly in the box? What is wrong with this tiny scene LMAO.
And yes, the cut is too quick. I see two options right now: figure out a way to completely remove Rey grabbing the book, or remove Merry’s line that is off in the background. Because the way it is worded implies to me at least that he is taking about the galaxy at large, not just the Resistance.
Honestly, if you just cut the whole “Rey retrieving the book” part and just cut from her leaving to Poe and Leia talking, then have her show back up with the book, it could possibly be seamless.
However, I can’t really say for sure without having the footage in front of me. Maybe someone can have a go at it?
I can absolutely create that visually, but it isn’t going to have sound. The problem is that there isn’t enough space for the first half of Poe’s line to play because most of it happens off screen when Rey is grabbing the book.