Yeah you just never see stuff like that where I live so I assumed it looked unnatural. But comparing what Hal provided with that image definitely allows me to appreciate it more š
I could dial the pink back since itās barely purple anyway. Feels very Easter.
It feels very early Irish Morning to me instead of a soundstage, so itās perfect in my book
I suppose youāre right.
That is from Ireland.
Iām definitely alright with pink then (like in the image above).
Well as long as it matches the sky when she is grabbing the wayfinder Iām fine with it then.
Just want to make sure that it doesnāt look too different from the mornings of Ahch-To in TLJ.
EDIT: redacted
So you arenāt adjusting the sky at least a bit? There was a pretty good point that it doesnāt match the sky when Rey is grabbing the wayfinder at all.
Hereās what I intend as the final look and ordering of the Ach-To sequence. I tried to add a very subtle purple to the sunrise. (Any footage before or after the sequence is not color corrected in this clip, nor is the saber flashback.)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16kfx-ovM2HjYCqiexhK76qnAAIuq-guZ/view?usp=drivesdk
Personally I prefer Neverarās original regrade for the sunrise, feels more natural.
Same here. I understand wanting Leia represented, but I fail to understand how the color of the sky could possibly convey such a thing for the average person. Unless youāre one of those literature teachers who try to find meaning in every single possible detail in the story. Haha.
Otherwise, great work here everyone.
Looks like it was in fact removed. Here it is put back into the Mustafar sequence:
Definitely needs some color correction. Thereās a green hue over it. Not to mention the fact that it is slightly abrupt (and I know how much some people here dislike abrupt shots). That said, there is plenty of camera flipping leading up to it so it feels natural to me at least.
Have we already discussed this reintegration? I donāt remember. If we have Iām sorry for bringing it back up again. I just feel like adding anything to the Mustafar sequence, even if it is only a second long, is worth it.
Sometimes less is more. We all agree Mustafar feels too fast. But adding a blink and you miss it shot to pad the runtime isnāt going to make it feel less rushed, in fact it would do the exact opposite.
I agree that it might not make it feel less rushed, but I completely disagree that it would do the exact opposite. Itās just kinda there.
Honestly I just like the shot because itās referenced in the novelization. Basically itās described that he was in such a fit of rage in the fight that he had to shake himself out of it.
Looks like it was in fact removed. Here it is put back into the Mustafar sequence:
Definitely needs some color correction. Thereās a green hue over it. Not to mention the fact that it is slightly abrupt (and I know how much some people here dislike abrupt shots). That said, there is plenty of camera flipping leading up to it so it feels natural to me at least.
Have we already discussed this reintegration? I donāt remember. If we have Iām sorry for bringing it back up again. I just feel like adding anything to the Mustafar sequence, even if it is only a second long, is worth it.
When Kylo was on Mustafar and he has killed everyone, he turns around sharply as if he has heard something call to him. I know youāve added sounds to when he picks up the wayfinder but would it possible for the sounds be extended and for them to start just before he quickly turns.
That reminds me - since we have different visions for Rey and Kylo, did we end up removing that one shot of Kylo twitching on Mustafar? I feel like that might be able to be repurposed for this idea here.
The 3PO stuff is hilarious. Nicely done.
Youāre definitely taking it very seriously to leave the original structure in place! I think thatās great. I know if I was rewriting some of these scenes I would just slap what I liked better in without considering the structure.
I think weāre pretty much set at this point with possible changes. Iād like to be proven wrong, but thatās just how I feel.
Looking forward to seeing puppet show samples in the near future.
Itās the kind of thing that happens all the time when editing a movie. I dunno what more to say about it.
Tell that to Adywan š
Maybe Iāve just been too spoiled by those projects. Definitely a possibility.
And now that Iāve been able to actually take a look at the scene where Rey goes to get the, ahem, SACRED JEDI TEXTS during the Palpatine speech sequence, youād really have to zoom way into it to be able to remove the saber. Itās just a little continuity error. There are hundreds in SW, so Iām not going to fret about it.
Itās hard for me to understand how some people are able to overlook small errors like that without going crazy, but I guess Iām in the minority because of that lmao. Maybe Iām the crazy one.
You have a similar thing happen in your The Approaching Storm edit if you didnāt know. It has to do with Anakinās lightsaber appearing and disappearing because you removed him losing it to begin with in the chase scene.
Not a whole lot you can do about it without removing even more stuff (or doing some insane VFX).
Is anybody familiar with moving audio lines to the side while still keeping the music intact? Iām trying to remove Rey grabbing the books in the middle of the Resistance meeting discussing Palpatineās message for the following reasons:
- Reyās lightsaber is seen prominently on her even though she just gave it to Leia.
- The Jedi texts were left by Rey on a crate, but when she returns to them they are suddenly in the box.
- A line plays in the background that is contradictory to the original trilogy. It suggests that the galaxy always knew about Palpatineās Force abilities.
Any help would be appreciated in this endeavor. If we can get this working right I think Hal would be more interested in it.
I donāt doubt itād be doable, thatās not the issue. The first thing to try would be to edit out the portions of relevant audio from the channels in which it appears, then cover that with stuff from other channels. Sometimes you can get more mileage out of adding audio from multiple other channels to avoid a direct repeat of just one channel.
My editing software doesnāt have access to specific audio channels (as far as Iām aware) but I might be able to stitch this together using Audacity exports. 3POās lines are luckily isolated enough to make this possible I believe.
EDIT: So apparently something got even more messed up with my editing software. Now whenever I try to remove a separated audio track it removes the video above it along with it (even though Iāve separated them). Well, I guess I canāt do fan edits anymore unless I either fix this or find new software.
A line plays in the background that is contradictory to the original trilogy. It suggests that the galaxy always knew about Palpatineās Force abilities.
Remember when Rey reminded Luke of his redemption of Vader and his immediate response after that āhe became a legendā (the inference being that the galaxy learned of it post-OT)? Think of it in that way.
This thinking would work, but the problem is that the line specifically says the word always. If that word werenāt included in the line, there would be no issue. But with it there, the idea is that people have, well, always considered the idea that Palpatine is trying to cheat death. Since he was considered a normal dude until post-ROTJ, this line is blatantly false unless you wish to contradict established canon.
Is anybody familiar with moving audio lines to the side while still keeping the music intact? Iām trying to remove Rey grabbing the books in the middle of the Resistance meeting discussing Palpatineās message for the following reasons:
Any help would be appreciated in this endeavor. If we can get this working right I think Hal would be more interested in it.
Halās already said he doesnāt mind the line or the continuity error so I donāt see a reason to continue this topic here.
JEDIT: To be clear, I will see if a simple crop can remove the saber from the shot. If not, oh well.
Cool. Could you send whatever you come up with my way even if you decide not to use it? The crop feature on my editing software is terrible. Doesnāt let you select precise number amounts.
Halās already said he doesnāt mind the line or the continuity error so I donāt see a reason to continue this topic here.
He hasnāt commented on the second continuity error yet.
Might have missed it, but where did he say the line was ok?
Sorry for the double comment. Here is the visuals without the audio. Can you tell where the cut is?
If anybody is really good at working with audio this might be possible. I believe 3POās line would need to be pushed over a bit (since his lips donāt move).
I can absolutely create that visually, but it isnāt going to have sound. The problem is that there isnāt enough space for the first half of Poeās line to play because most of it happens off screen when Rey is grabbing the book.
I think this would be the best possible route to take if weāre really considering cutting out The Hobbitās line (which I donāt think is necessary but I understand why people would take umbrage with it)
That is actually a completely different issue that I didnāt even notice until messing with this scene. The primary purpose of this would be to fix the lightsaber continuity issue.
Hereās another continuity issue: Rey leaves the books lying on some crates when the Falcon arrives. When she returns to get them, they are suddenly in the box? What is wrong with this tiny scene LMAO.
And yes, the cut is too quick. I see two options right now: figure out a way to completely remove Rey grabbing the book, or remove Merryās line that is off in the background. Because the way it is worded implies to me at least that he is taking about the galaxy at large, not just the Resistance.
Honestly, if you just cut the whole āRey retrieving the bookā part and just cut from her leaving to Poe and Leia talking, then have her show back up with the book, it could possibly be seamless.
However, I canāt really say for sure without having the footage in front of me. Maybe someone can have a go at it?
I can absolutely create that visually, but it isnāt going to have sound. The problem is that there isnāt enough space for the first half of Poeās line to play because most of it happens off screen when Rey is grabbing the book.
I mean, it kinda makes sense there would be rumors that the old decrepit guy that has the rule over the whole galaxy with an iron grip might be seeking to prolong his dictatorship indefinitely.
Ah, yes, just like every other real world dictator, everybody feared that the individual would soon discover the secret to immortality.
I joke, of course.
And yes, the cut is too quick. I see two options right now: figure out a way to completely remove Rey grabbing the book, or remove Merryās line that is off in the background. Because the way it is worded implies to me at least that he is taking about the galaxy at large, not just the Resistance.
Iām going to take a look at the audio in that scene to see if Merryās background speech could be removed without deleting the actual visuals.
oooh, that would be nice.
Or you can include a line that he likes DeadPool who breaks the 4th wall.
Am I right?
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Iāll see myself out.
āThere were always whispers that we are actually in a world that revolves entirely around Skywalkers and Palpatines.ā
Anyways, I took a peak at the 5.1 audio and it looks like Merryās dialogue appears in 2 of them. 1 of them can easily be removed to make it quieter, but the other has Reyās movements attached. So more work would need to be done to make it perfect.
And Burbin, itās problematic because it suggests that Palpatine has otherworldly powers. In actuality, most people would assume he was a normal dude from Naboo (at least until after ROTJ). Thus why the Final Order would put a Sith Empire in place, not a normal Empire.
In ROTS he was still hiding his abilities. Nobody saw the battle between him and Yoda except us.
Yeah, but Iām not the one who brought that word into the conversation to begin with.
The most important factors should be that it is the canon answer and also makes the most sense (imo) given the content in the previous films of the saga.
Iām going to take a look at the audio in that scene to see if Merryās background speech could be removed without deleting the actual visuals.
It is actually explicit in the OT:
āYou, my friend, are all thatās left of their religion.ā Sure, heās talking about the Jedi there, but Vader is a Sith and he still talks about him in that way. Heās basically saying heās the last force user. And Tarkin is a high-ranking individual in the Empire!
Nope. I think you explained yourself why itās not explicit.
Nope. I think I explained myself why it is in fact explicit. I clarified that āreligionā is in reference to the ability of using the Force, not the misconception that he meant the Jedi.
There are other canon sources which prove my point. In the novel Tarkin, he has a suspicion that Palpy and Vader are Sith Lords, but he doesnāt know for certain nor does he want to ask any questions regarding it. In the novel Lords of the Sith, Palpatine tells Vader that he ācanāt be seen using the Forceā to get them out of a sticky situation.
Of course, you probably donāt care about what canon says. Iām just trying to point out to you that Tarkinās line can easily be interpreted that way, and is in fact interpreted that way by canon.
In conclusion, I would highly advise removing Merryās line which suggests that everyone knew about Palpatineās Sithiness in the OT, but itās ultimately Halās decision.
Not sure if this is something to be discussed in this thread, but has anyone found a good way to remove Rey healing the worm? I think it works better for the story if the only āforce healingā is a result of the Dyad between Rey and Ben.
For the sake of the whole saga, it just opens up WAY too many questions. Maybe it can be adjusted for for the worm creature to be scared of her darkness or something along those lines.
Not sure if that is worth pursuing due to the scene of The Child in The Mandalorian.
EDIT: Rather than make a new comment, Iāll address one of the best head canon answers as to why force healing isnāt an issue. The Jedi at the time of the prequels clearly believe that if someone is about to die, then that is the will of the Force. Therefore, they would view the ability of Force Healing as an abomination (even though it is light side in nature). My personal belief is that they withheld knowledge of that ability from everyone except Jedi masters who had access to restricted knowledge if they wanted to. Thus another reason why Anakin was pissed about not becoming a master. Sorry about the rant.
THat, or they had to do it in Mandolorian to help ājustify itā in this movie since it pretty much ā¦ invalidates the plot in ROTS. Lol.
Anyway ā¦ I think the conversation about the lightsaber disappearing and reappearing error and Merryās quote would be neat to fix if it doesnāt cause any visual or timing issues.
I mean, for me it actually kinda enhances the plot of ROTS under the thinking I shared. If Anakin knew that Yoda had knowledge about an ability which could save his wife but instead he told him to rejoice the death of those around him, I would be super angry. Maybe not go on a murder spree, but definitely extremely angry at the Jedi.
And Anakin certainly had his suspicions (āI know there are things about the Force that they are not telling meā). Even the film suggests that by becoming a master he would have access to those things. Itās actually in the novel as well.
Shoot, Iām dragging us further away from the topic again. Sorry.