Jar Jar Bricks

jarbear said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I like the word play of what I suggested. The two won’t take the throne for themselves, but they instead take the throne away from him.

I do like in Hal’s version trying to really leave Palp’s motivation/decision making up in the air and can be interpreted by the listener however.

Agreed. I could explain to you how Palpatine’s decisions in the novel make sense, but it’s way too complicated. There’s just too many steps and flip-flopping. That’s why I like Hal’s simplification of it all.

I like the word play of what I suggested. The two won’t take the throne for themselves, but they instead take the throne away from him.

You were suggesting the implementation of some sort of prophecy, so I simply suggested one that is currently already canon, even if it doesn’t appear in the film. Fairly certain it’s in the novelization.

So, following your outline… “two that are one will take the throne from the ashes of the Emperor who ruled the galaxy”.

It’s canon that the Sith had a prophecy, except it was about the dyad. So both organizations did have a prophecy that turned out to not be in their favor.

I agree jarbear. That’s why I suggested we put the Sith eyes when she hisses, and also when she is on the Sith throne instead of milky eyes.

I also like the idea that the eyes only go Sithy when she shows her shark teeth. Would save work for you to do and makes sense.

What about the dark Rey in her new vision at the beginning of the movie? In one shot she has normal eyes, and in the next they are milky.

I love the Sith eyes, personally. Feels like a nice nod to the prequels. Palpatine pre-dyad suck was different. He was decaying and not in his prime.

Chase Adams said:

Can I point out the irony in how making jokes about people cluttering threads with ideas clutters threads just as much as suggesting legitimate ideas does, regardless of whether or not they’re being posted in the right place.

Shhh I was trying to drag this out for as long as possible to make that exact point. 😉

I’ve actually said this in the past before but people got triggered at me.

“BB-8, I’m so sorry.” (cues the song I’m So Sorry from ROTS).

“Nothing’s impossible” - Rey’s fourth line

EDIT: Funnily enough, Hal already shaved off half of the line: “I’m gonna run the training course.”

I mostly did this for Antonio, the one who suggested this. I’m not deeply committed enough to this idea to try that lol. But when I heard this voice line I thought it was perfect for the situation, so I shared it thinking it could be a suitable replacement. But if we REALLY want Kylo to be angry there, then I guess we’ll just call it quits.

RogueLeader said:

I actually went back through parts of the film recently and took some notes regarding potential dialogue changes, so I’d be interested in joining the discussion over on that thread.

What were you proposing?

Chase Adams said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

https://youtu.be/7ZPMW9xCZdk

It’s a great idea to convey that the helmet is saved, but with this new line most of Kylo’s anger is lost from the original.

I was actually somewhat confused why Kylo was so angry in that moment. Wouldn’t it be a good thing that she is in the bowels of HIS ship? She’s basically trapped.

EDIT: Context clip for those wondering: https://youtu.be/7ZPMW9xCZdk

I’d still like to hear Antonio and Hal’s opinion on what I posted. But yeah, I’m going to respond to Chase’s comment in the other thread.

AntonioGK said:

Hey guys I just remembered that when I watched the film for the first time I kept wondering what happened to Vader’s mask in Kijimi, did it explote with the planet? or did Kylo pick it up?

Damn! it is one of the most iconic symbols in the saga and they left it there! Could we consider adding a line saying “hey dude, pick it up” or something? haha

Alright, I found a line that could work here:

https://youtu.be/7ZPMW9xCZdk

The original is: “She was in my quarters. Lock down the ship!” With this new line, he is essentially telling the stormtroopers to protect the helmet until he returns to retrieve it.

Personally, this isn’t too big of a deal for me but I thought I’d share this anyways.

Fine, I agree Faraday. Wasn’t a big deal to me in the first place.

I said this before, but I really dislike the idea of removing anything else from the movie at this point. Much more interested in additions/changes.

I think she is only sensing that because it is directly related to her parent’s death. It’s also a Sith artifact, infused with the dark side. Anakin’s lightsaber is just that - a lightsaber. Even if it has been used to do evil deeds in the past, it wasn’t created with that express purpose.

We’ve already gone over the parent stuff. Bad idea to remove that. We need them to care about her so that she is angry at grandpa Palps.

I don’t mind the change either, tbh. But it’s definitely not going to make or break this edit.

It’s only the “I know exactly where the wayfinder is” line, right? If that’s the case, I’d say it’s a warranted removal. It’s better to make it purely about the translation rather than focus on the fact that he could technically find a loophole to tell them the location.

It’s probably explained in the novelization what happens to it, although I haven’t reached that part to actually read what that is.

I could take a look at some of the Kylo voice lines again, but I doubt I could find something like, “pick it up”. Besides, I’m not sure there is enough room there for anything besides, “She was in my quarters. Lock down the ship!”

Well, technically speaking, it is in his memory banks according to the movie. He just is prohibited from sharing any information obtained from the translations due to a restriction coded into him.

Which sorta makes sense based upon what Hal did for episode 1. Since Anakin didn’t build him now, but repair him, it’s possible he came preinstalled with Sith language. Who knows what he was used for before Anakin got him. The droid could be thousands of years old, who knows?

CaptainFaraday said:

Without Rose onboard, nobody had been able to fix the landing gear by the time they arrived. Which was why, when they all exited the Falcon bruised and shell-shocked, it was to the sight of a massive scar in the damp ground, running behind them in a straight line as far as the eye could see.

Dang what is up with Rae Carson and mentioning Rose at every opportunity lmao. I noticed this while reading the first chapters of the original. I swear she wanted to have her come along on the journey or something but obviously couldn’t do that because it’s not canon.

EDIT: Oh, and btw I like what you have going here. It’s definitely making me consider whether I would prefer what you have or having it be the forest moon of Endor.

The close up shots look pretty great. I agree that some smoke would be helpful. I believe Hal has a similar scene in his AOTC edit that has unfinished walls and CGI people in the background. Granted, that was only for like 10 seconds.

Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but would an AI upscale possibly help here as well?

I’ll admit it really isn’t that big of a deal unless you think about it too hard. If I’ve learned anything from this movie, it’s that it is a lot of stupid fun.

I believe Bobson Dugnutt did some work on that scene in his TLJ Expanded Edition edit. Don’t recall if it made the final cut, but he definitely spruced it up a bit.

sherlockpotter said:

Would it be possible to trim out 3PO’s line “I have read it…I know exactly where the Wayfinder is,” and focus instead on the “My programming prevents me from translating Sith Speak” aspect? I wonder if that whole thing might feel less contrived if 3PO actually can’t translate the dagger until he gets “patched” by Babu. Why would they program him with an Ancient Sith dictionary, and then tell him not to use it?

“There’s writing on it.”
“Perhaps I can translate it. It’s the clue that Master Luke was looking for!”
“And? Where’s the Wayfinder?”
“I am afraid I cannot tell you.”
“20.3 fazillion languages, you can’t read that?”
“Unfortunately, it is written in the runic language of the Sith.”
“So what?”
“My programming forbids me from translating it.”

The only slight problem I see with this is that 3PO doesn’t actually look at the dagger to read it when they bypass the restriction, which would imply that he already had the text memorized. I suppose you could argue he had the runes memorized and was able to instantly translate them once the process was completed.

I will say that it does seem a bit strange that 3PO’s programming prevents him from translating the dagger directly, but he himself admits that he knows where the wayfinder is located… like what’s stopping him from just telling the trio, “Hey, Endor is a nice place this time of year.” wink wink

RogueLeader said:

Will you let us know when you find out about this, Jar Jar?

Yes, like I said in my previous comment you can remove 2 of the channels to completely eliminate the old speech. Unfortunately, it also takes out most of the children laughing.

EDIT: All of the speech is mostly condensed into one channel from what I’m seeing. I think this would be a game of enabling and muting the one track whenever the children are seen laughing. There is still some subtle laughter in the background without that main channel.