I’d still like to hear Antonio and Hal’s opinion on what I posted. But yeah, I’m going to respond to Chase’s comment in the other thread.
Hey guys I just remembered that when I watched the film for the first time I kept wondering what happened to Vader’s mask in Kijimi, did it explote with the planet? or did Kylo pick it up?
Damn! it is one of the most iconic symbols in the saga and they left it there! Could we consider adding a line saying “hey dude, pick it up” or something? haha
Alright, I found a line that could work here:
The original is: “She was in my quarters. Lock down the ship!” With this new line, he is essentially telling the stormtroopers to protect the helmet until he returns to retrieve it.
Personally, this isn’t too big of a deal for me but I thought I’d share this anyways.
Fine, I agree Faraday. Wasn’t a big deal to me in the first place.
I said this before, but I really dislike the idea of removing anything else from the movie at this point. Much more interested in additions/changes.
I think she is only sensing that because it is directly related to her parent’s death. It’s also a Sith artifact, infused with the dark side. Anakin’s lightsaber is just that - a lightsaber. Even if it has been used to do evil deeds in the past, it wasn’t created with that express purpose.
We’ve already gone over the parent stuff. Bad idea to remove that. We need them to care about her so that she is angry at grandpa Palps.
I don’t mind the change either, tbh. But it’s definitely not going to make or break this edit.
It’s only the “I know exactly where the wayfinder is” line, right? If that’s the case, I’d say it’s a warranted removal. It’s better to make it purely about the translation rather than focus on the fact that he could technically find a loophole to tell them the location.
It’s probably explained in the novelization what happens to it, although I haven’t reached that part to actually read what that is.
I could take a look at some of the Kylo voice lines again, but I doubt I could find something like, “pick it up”. Besides, I’m not sure there is enough room there for anything besides, “She was in my quarters. Lock down the ship!”
Well, technically speaking, it is in his memory banks according to the movie. He just is prohibited from sharing any information obtained from the translations due to a restriction coded into him.
Which sorta makes sense based upon what Hal did for episode 1. Since Anakin didn’t build him now, but repair him, it’s possible he came preinstalled with Sith language. Who knows what he was used for before Anakin got him. The droid could be thousands of years old, who knows?
Without Rose onboard, nobody had been able to fix the landing gear by the time they arrived. Which was why, when they all exited the Falcon bruised and shell-shocked, it was to the sight of a massive scar in the damp ground, running behind them in a straight line as far as the eye could see.
Dang what is up with Rae Carson and mentioning Rose at every opportunity lmao. I noticed this while reading the first chapters of the original. I swear she wanted to have her come along on the journey or something but obviously couldn’t do that because it’s not canon.
EDIT: Oh, and btw I like what you have going here. It’s definitely making me consider whether I would prefer what you have or having it be the forest moon of Endor.
The close up shots look pretty great. I agree that some smoke would be helpful. I believe Hal has a similar scene in his AOTC edit that has unfinished walls and CGI people in the background. Granted, that was only for like 10 seconds.
Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but would an AI upscale possibly help here as well?
I’ll admit it really isn’t that big of a deal unless you think about it too hard. If I’ve learned anything from this movie, it’s that it is a lot of stupid fun.
I believe Bobson Dugnutt did some work on that scene in his TLJ Expanded Edition edit. Don’t recall if it made the final cut, but he definitely spruced it up a bit.
Would it be possible to trim out 3PO’s line “I have read it…I know exactly where the Wayfinder is,” and focus instead on the “My programming prevents me from translating Sith Speak” aspect? I wonder if that whole thing might feel less contrived if 3PO actually can’t translate the dagger until he gets “patched” by Babu. Why would they program him with an Ancient Sith dictionary, and then tell him not to use it?
“There’s writing on it.”
“Perhaps I can translate it. It’s the clue that Master Luke was looking for!”
“And? Where’s the Wayfinder?”
“I am afraid I cannot tell you.”
“20.3 fazillion languages, you can’t read that?”
“Unfortunately, it is written in the runic language of the Sith.”
“So what?”
“My programming forbids me from translating it.”
The only slight problem I see with this is that 3PO doesn’t actually look at the dagger to read it when they bypass the restriction, which would imply that he already had the text memorized. I suppose you could argue he had the runes memorized and was able to instantly translate them once the process was completed.
I will say that it does seem a bit strange that 3PO’s programming prevents him from translating the dagger directly, but he himself admits that he knows where the wayfinder is located… like what’s stopping him from just telling the trio, “Hey, Endor is a nice place this time of year.” wink wink
Will you let us know when you find out about this, Jar Jar?
Yes, like I said in my previous comment you can remove 2 of the channels to completely eliminate the old speech. Unfortunately, it also takes out most of the children laughing.
EDIT: All of the speech is mostly condensed into one channel from what I’m seeing. I think this would be a game of enabling and muting the one track whenever the children are seen laughing. There is still some subtle laughter in the background without that main channel.
So yeah it looks like you can easily remove the guys voice with the 5.1. Unfortunately it also takes the majority of the children’s laughter with it, but I’m sure there are some audio wizards here that can amend that.
I could check out the 5.1 audio to see if the original voice can feasibly be removed.
I like it! Obviously the audio would be integrated better in the final product since it’s a little loud right now. I’d imagine it would fade out when the lady starts talking to her as well. But it sounds professional to me.
There isn’t an official Aki-Aki language we have to follow after all haha. Or is there?
Sorry, don’t think it works for me. It’s way too distracting to see Rey literally just die and then go back to everything else with everyone celebrating and having Lando being all jovial while he picks up Finn and Jannah. It’s too distracting to have that in the back of your mind.
Furthermore, I think the moment between Rey and Ben should stay exactly as that - a personal moment between the two of them. And besides, if Rey has been dead for the past couple of minutes why is it that Finn only senses it once he gets in the Falcon? And I would hate to see his moment go.
Lol, what ever happened to him anyways?
I didn’t want to further the discussion but I wanted to address what Sherlock said.
He also forgot that there is another instance of sending transmissions across the galaxy in AOTC. Obi-Wan sends one to Anakin, who then forwards it to the council. None of the message was in real time.
I’d imagine it would be pretty easy to do yourself. Seems like quite the small change to warrant an entirely new release.
Also it would make the scene in TROS come out of literally nowhere.
Or are you being sarcastic? Hard to tell.
Just because we don’t see it as often in the saga films doesn’t mean it isn’t a common way of communicating. Think of it like texting. Lando doesn’t have a phone (transmission device), but he can still receive messages through the computer or something. No droid necessary.
If you look at Wookieepedia it basically says the same thing. He is able to receive messages from them, but for whatever reason doesn’t do holographic chats.
He decides to give the trio the information but doesn’t want to get more involved than that. He changes his mind later.
Lando doesn’t do the same method of communication with them because he doesn’t know where to send the “text message” to, if you will.
But regardless, I don’t care much about his “I got a call about you guys” … but the one that sticks out is Rey’s kinda strange “Tell that to her yourself” … kinda implying they don’t talk but we know they just did? Kinda seemed unnecessary.
Leia sent him a transmission, jarbear. It was not a Skype call, if you will. It was a prerecorded message. So he didn’t talk to her.
Yes, Faraday is great. The reason he agrees with you on this Sherlock is because he is following a similar philosophy as you with his novelization. He doesn’t care as much about the surrounding facts, only the story currently being presented.
Anyways, I just don’t buy that somebody as vibrant as Lando would spend all that time on such a desolate world in retirement, even if the locals are nice. I’d imagine him continuing to travel around the galaxy if he wanted to forget his troubles.
Hey Sherlock, don’t feel too bad about it. These types of 50/50 split decisions may not end up being in the project, but you can always implement them yourself and possibly share it with everyone. That’s what I’m doing regarding a couple of these LEGO lines. Although I’m personally not currently planning on hosting a download for it. That seems like a lot of effort for a few minor changes.
First off, that example would not be a few seconds. We’re talking about at least a couple minutes there.
Second, I guess I dont really care about the specifics of filmmaking. All I care about is having the characters and lore make sense. If there is a small sacrifice in the former department for the latter to work well, then so be it I say.
I would argue the tension is released when the stormtrooper is killed. Who the guy is after that shouldn’t keep the audience concerned.
I mean, I’d say he was pretty helpful. I’d be willing to bet he was the only person in the galaxy that knew all that information about Ochi, where his ship was located, etc.
To respond to your edit, I actually don’t understand how this would help tension either. How many seconds are inbetween the line and him removing his helmet? And didn’t the guy just kill a stormtrooper? Pretty sure we can trust him. Yes, having him mention Leia makes this abundantly clear to the audience, but it’s just for a few seconds.