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#1428774
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Cinefy said:

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, I see no reason to add a hand. lol

And I hate to be a wet blanket, but Rey using lightning on Finn doesn’t strike me as feeling right for that moment. It could’ve been scripted that way, but with what we have to work with Finn still flies backward and Rey doesn’t blink about any of it.

Yeah I’m not a big fan of Rey using force lighting on Finn, feel like it would probably look weird especially since ILM force lighting is hard to replicate unless you do it in Nuke

At this point we aren’t talking about her electrocuting him, but rather her fingers would crackle with lightning. It would give the impression that she is using the dark side to push him back.

And yeah, I don’t see why people are degrading this idea so much. In the original film, there is literally NO purpose to Finn going after her. At least this way it would let the audience know that she’s losing it.

And as for her reaction to what she does, she’s taking out her regrets and frustrations by swinging her lightsaber on Kylo. At least that’s what the original novelization said.

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#1428773
Topic
Deepfake Ideas - Index and Discussion
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CaptainFaraday said:

Fiendish Droid Leader said:

If you’re listing samples in the main post, you might as well link to these:
Young Ian McDiarmid on Rey’s Dad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjT1DhfTIoo
Palpatine clones on Exegol: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1340464/action/topic#1340464

I can’t tell any difference from the original on the Rey’s Dad one, I’m afraid! Still, a good find that someone has at least attempted it.

I don’t believe they did a very good job on that one. The machine needed more source material of his face. Then again, not sure where you could get that for a young Ian McDiarmid.

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#1428641
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sherlockpotter said:

The problem is though, that the possession concept itself is shit. If killing Palpy allows him to possess you, the writers have created a no-win scenario. At that point, the only option for resolving anything is to gloss over the idea entirely. Rey decides that she’ll let Palpy take her over (because that will somehow allow her to control the fleet, even though Palpatine will be the one in control?), but then she senses Ben, and is like “Well shoot, what am I doing? This is a terrible idea!” But then as soon as Ben joins her, they’re about to kill him together anyway. And then Rey ends up killing Palpatine, but he doesn’t possess anyone. He just dies.

You have to kill him with the dark side in order to be possessed. And thankfully the Force ghosts we added in serve a purpose beyond fan service: they hold Palpatine’s spirit in place so it’s finally destroyed.

There are ways for it all to make sense, but unfortunately the writers didn’t take the time to think about them. I could explain more of what they are, but whatever.

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#1428625
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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It’s a blatant contradiction no matter which way you spin it, Sherlock.

"Kill me, and my spirit will pass into you "

Later…

“We’ll kill him together and take the throne.”

To be clear, I still want Kylo to know about essence transfer from the get-go. But obviously that second line was written with the idea that Kylo himself doesn’t know about it.

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#1428614
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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KumoNin said:

Another thing I noticed: Kylo says “we’ll kill him and take the throne” to Rey (hangar), but doesn’t he already know, in this version, that killing him means spirit transfer?

I agree 100% with modifying this line. In my novelization I replaced it with “We’ll defeat him and take the fleet” but obviously that is a lot harder to do. I could check out what lines I’ve got, though.

Also, Testing, I have no idea what the point of your suggestion is.

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#1428583
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The way we have things rn is actually how it is ordered in the novelization. This works better because:

  1. It makes no sense that they could identify the necklace practically the second Kylo grabs it. At least with the gap it’s slightly more believable.
  2. Poe says that there are always random First Order patrols in crowds like on Pasaana. There are mostly Aki-Aki there, so when this patrolling trooper sees a strange group of people running, it makes sense that he would ask them to stop and show some identification.
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#1428399
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sherlockpotter said:

Well, I have no idea how to actually add the lightning into the shot; but I was able to add the sound effects of Rey’s lightning from earlier into the scene. If anyone who knows how to do the lightning effect wants to take over from here, that would be amazing!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AehZ3R_NrH07XrvPbF1NvbtZFxzZfDP2/view?usp=sharing

Seeing this scene again makes me realize the potential here. I love it.

I wonder if the sound effects from Snoke in TLJ would be more fitting though, since that’s the attack we’re trying to replicate.

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#1428296
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Am I the only one who was surprised to learn that Pryde was in the Steadfast (First Order Destroyer) during the battle of Exegol? For the longest time I thought he was just in a Final Order command ship.

Honestly, it kinda makes Finn knowing which ship had the signal through the Force super stupid. Like, of course the ship that looks nothing like the others has the signal.

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#1428254
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The "Tragedy of Vader" Edit (v2 NOW AVAILABLE)
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Here is the ending. For context, Ben runs away from Rey after healing her because he doesn’t believe he deserves her love. He decides he needs to learn how to forgive himself first.

The Millennium Falcon flew over a Jawa sandcrawler. The twin suns of Tatooine had yet to show their faces, but early-morning light washed the land below in pink and white. Rey was glad to be doing something besides her grueling New Republic duties. Something special.

It had been months since the battle of Exegol. Ben had declined all of Rey’s attempts at establishing a Force connection. When she told Lando that he was still alive, he told her that he had made the right call by hiding away. He claimed there was no way the galaxy would accept Ben, as much as he himself wished they would. That he would have been tried for his crimes and locked in a prison for the rest of his life.

Rey believed there had to be another way. But Ben was not why she had traveled to Tatooine. It was for his family.

The Falcon touched down on an empty desert plain. Rey and BB-8 descended the ramp and squinted against the reflected light on the sand. The place was so stark, the ground so bleached, it was almost like the salt flats of Hiila Basin back on Jakku.

Rey stepped forward, toward a domed adobe building jutting from the sand. Only BB-8 accompanied her. All her friends had offered to come with her, but Finn insisted they stay behind. He understood that she needed to do this alone.

She carried three lightsabers with her. Her own, which she had recently fully constructed, was hooked to her belt. She carried the other two in her haversack.

The adobe building had an arched doorway, but years of wind and sand had half buried it. There’d be no accessing the Lars homestead that way.

Moisture vaporators rose in the distance at irregular intervals, tall spindly towers much like the wind-grain traps on Pasaana. It felt like so long ago already. The intervals were irregular, she realized, because some had fallen over.

She stepped past the building and discovered what appeared to be a large sinkhole, half filled with sand. A closer look revealed an arched window and a half-covered door at the base of the sinkhole, built into adobe walls.

At her feet lay a tower panel from one of the fallen vaporators, slightly curved, large enough for one person to sit. She yanked it aside, turned it around, and aimed. A few hours from now, the metal would be too hot to touch. Until then, it would make a perfect sand sled.

She climbed in, drew up her knees, and pushed off. The sled whipped down a sand drift into the heart of the sinkhole, where it gently collided with the base of a broken condenser tower. Rey stepped out and looked around.

So many memories here. She could feel them - yearning, loss, worry, desperation, love - and not just Luke’s. Multiple generations of Skywalkers had been to this place.

A cave-like entrance in the wall drew her forward. As she passed into shadow and her eyes adjusted, she noted a long dining table, covered with dust. She ran a finger through the dust, tracing a line of soft blue. Luke had dined here. And also - she reached out, sensing - Anakin?

An adjoining alcove contained some kind of beverage dispenser, but most of the levers and paneling had been scavenged, probably by local Jawas. A single tall beverage cup made of plastex lay on its side, oddly pristine.

She wandered around for a few more minutes and discovered what used to be a speeder garage, Luke’s sleeping loft, and the remains of an electrostatic repeller that had probably kept sand and dust away for years.

Other rooms remained inaccessible to her, their entrances buried in drifts.

Rey stood in the center for a while, taking it all in. Would she have turned out differently? If she’d been raised in a real home like this, by her parents if they hadn’t been forced to live in hiding?

Perhaps not. The family she’d been seeking had been ahead of her the whole time. And it still had room to grow. She wouldn’t change a thing about her origins.

The cracked adobe walls and jutting pipes made for an easy climb back up. She reached the top and pulled Luke’s and Leia’s lightsabers from her haversack. Holding them side by side in her hand, she gazed down at them for a long moment. They’d belonged to her teachers. Her family.

She placed them on the ground, and wrapped them gently into a small package using some fabric and a leather strip. Calling on the power of the Force, she pushed, and the lightsabers sank, lower and lower until the ground had fully welcomed them, shrouding them in cool, quiet rest.

Rey stood, pulling out her own lightsaber. She ignited it. Her lightsaber glowed white-gold, and she gazed at it for a long moment. According to the Jedi texts, its color meant she was a protector, a sentinel. She could see why that role fit her now.

The lightsaber was single-bladed, with an outer casing and emitter salvaged from her quarterstaff. The final result felt like the exact inverse of the lightsaber held by the dark Rey of her vision, and she loved it. It was beautiful, it fit so perfectly in her hand, and she would carry it for the rest of her life.

“Hello!” came a strange voice, and she turned. An old human woman approached, skin wrinkled from decades of sunlight, her hood pulled up against the elements. She held the reins of a tall, lanky etobi, probably on her way to a nearby trading post.

“There’s been no one for so long,” she said. “Who are you?”

“I’m Rey,” she said.

“Rey who?” the old woman asked.

Just Rey, she thought to herself. That’s all she’d ever be. And maybe that was enough.

Rey was suddenly made aware of another presence. She turned her head.

A strange hermit was approaching. He was already close to them, his tall form swiftly wading through the sand. He wore long desert robes, and his head was wrapped in a turban, disguising his features.

“Now who’s this?” the old woman said.

As he got closer, Rey noticed a trinket hanging around his neck - one she recognized from… the Steadfast. She instantly knew who this unusual, Tatooinian hermit was. She could sense it now. She ran to him.

“Ben!” she called out, arms wide.

Ben Solo removed the turban from his face, revealing a wide, suntanned smile. He laughed as Rey wrapped her arms around him in a tight hug. He wrapped his arms around her in return.

But Rey remembered that he had left her. That he had ignored her attempts to reach out to him. She backed away from his embrace.

“Why did you leave me?” she asked, her voice tinged with frustration.

“I’ll never leave you again,” Ben replied as he removed his necklace. “I kept this for you. So you’d remember me.”

Rey allowed Ben to gently place the japor snippet around her neck. It felt strange for him to be placing a necklace on her instead of ripping one off. But Kylo Ren was a different person, and she needed to start remembering that. Kylo Ren was dead, and Ben Solo was alive.

She took Ben’s hand earnestly.

The old woman approached them. “Who are you people?”

“I’m Rey Solo,” Rey replied without hesitation. “This is Ben Solo.”

“Young lovers,” the old woman scoffed, shaking her head. “See you two around?” And she hobbled off without even bothering to share her own name.

BB-8 rolled toward them apprehensively, wary of the perceived stranger standing next to Rey. Ben grinned at the little droid, reaching out his tan hand to pet him. He flinched, warbling a question at Rey.

“It’s okay, Beebee-Ate,” Rey answered. “Everything’s going to be okay.”

Tatooine’s twin suns had risen above the horizon. The two halves of the dyad embraced each other under the light of dawn. At the homestead of one of the greatest Jedi, a new order was rising. The order of Skywalker.

A new home.


First comes the day
Then comes the night.
After the darkness
Shines through the light.
The difference, they say,
Is only made right
By the resolving of gray
Through refined Jedi sight.

-Journal of the Whills, 7:477

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#1428204
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Artan42 said:

In the regular cut, the voices are fine because The World Between Worlds has already been established but any pre-OT Jedi coming back as physical ghosts doesn’t fit with what we’ve seen (excluding Qui-Gon and possibly Ahsoka).

Interestingly enough, the novelization pretty much flat out tells the reader that the voices are coming from the World Between Worlds. Which does mean it’s different than Force ghosts. More has to do with potential realities, pasts, and futures.

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#1428156
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Peonthegrate said:

May I ask what edit of ROTJ you have that has that?

Yes, it’s Return of the Jedi Remastered by Darthrush. My only problem with it is that it has the Shaw ghost, but I just need to get around to editing the special edition change in.

It removes a lot of the film, but that’s fine by me because I don’t really like ROTJ besides the Luke/Vader stuff.

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#1428138
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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regularjoe said:

I agree generally with Neerbs comment however I think adding Leia to this is important and also a really nice transition from her death scene. Sure she isn’t a Jedi master because she derailed her training due to her premonitions about her son but she is a pretty Force-y character. She was Rey’s mentor for training and including her in the array brings the Jedi part of the relationship full circle.

I’d be interested in having Leia be in there only if we could find a nice place to move Leia’s body vanishing. I’m willing to give her the word “Always” in the Jedi voices scene, but a full on ghost wouldn’t work without her body being gone at the time.

And on the topic of “well Anakins body didn’t vanish”, I’ll say that in the edit I have of ROTJ he does. Also, just because it doesn’t happen on screen doesn’t mean it never happened.

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#1428029
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Artan42 said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Artan42 said:

Or even better, replace Shaw and RotS Christiansen in RotJ with an aged up Christiansen. Shaw looks and sounds nothing like Anakin at all and should be removed from every version of the films, including the unmasking and especially in RoS:A.

Isn’t this what we ended up doing for this edit? I can’t remember. It was either discussed or implemented. Because to me the Anakin ghost does look aged up a bit via Faceapp. (Come to think of it I’m pretty sure it’s just the light levels messing with my eyes).

Jon’s Anakin is aged up from what I can tell with the lighting. I’ve not been paying a huge amount of attention to this thread (there’s a huge amount of updates all the time and I’d rather just wait) but I’m sure I saw Hal considering the Shaw ghost which would be a colossal mistake to me.

The only way it would be a colossal mistake is if he didn’t offer two separate versions (one with Hayden, one with Shaw). Otherwise, I could care less.

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#1428019
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The "Tragedy of Vader" Edit (v2 NOW AVAILABLE)
Time

Ok so I’m pretty close to the end now. Currently right before Ben heals Rey. I also implemented the stormtrooper rebellion thing instead of Finn hacking a cannon. He sends a message through the ship’s intercoms and the troopers on the bridge take over, deciding to initiate self destruct to stop the Sith fleet from leaving.

I’m not completely happy with Finn/Jannah’s speech. If anybody has a speech for them that sounds really inspirational I would appreciate it.

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#1428015
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Artan42 said:

Or even better, replace Shaw and RotS Christiansen in RotJ with an aged up Christiansen. Shaw looks and sounds nothing like Anakin at all and should be removed from every version of the films, including the unmasking and especially in RoS:A.

Isn’t this what we ended up doing for this edit? I can’t remember. It was either discussed or implemented. Because to me the Anakin ghost does look aged up a bit via Faceapp. (Come to think of it I’m pretty sure it’s just the light levels messing with my eyes).

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#1427807
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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dgraham414 said:

I personally think we should keep it to the original four ghosts. They’re the most important ones to the story of the saga, and the others (besides maybe Ahsoka) never learned the force ghost thingy. Plus, at this point in the film Leia’s body is still physically present.

That’s what I was thinking. Qui-Gon was just a voice, only able to physically appear in areas with lots of light side power. Mace never learned it.

I do appreciate the visual upgrades to some of the ghosts (namely Anakin with his hand out). I think those are definitely worth putting in.

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#1427796
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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That is mighty impressive right there.

I’ll leave it up to Hal whether we should use that scene instead. I say that mostly because Ashoka never appears in person in the main saga films, and also it’s up to debate whether Mace and Qui-Gon should be able to appear as ghosts. I suppose Leia is also kinda up in the air since her body hasn’t disappeared yet. But I do love it all.