Jar Jar Bricks

Cinefy said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Wouldn’t they be fighting the Final Order though? Like, the only First Order present on Exegol are on the Steadfast.

to have an idea / creative thought be broken down into a thousand pieces no matter what it is every time gets abit jarring.

Making one measly suggestion/observation is considered that? Like I said, the audio is great, but that was my one reservation with it. I figured voicing my concern might have been worth something, but I guess not. Sorry.

Eh, whatever. The only reason I brought it up is because I enjoy having Kylo being independent from Palpy with his own goals and motivations. And since he’s the Supreme Leader of the First Order, I prefer to have them be two distinctly different organizations. One much more concerned with militarism, and the other wanting to instate a Sith Empire.

But that’s neither here nor there.

Nah I was mostly referring to everybody else’s discussion about this Lando audio. It sounds great, but I’m not sure the end of this movie is the right context for it since they technically aren’t going up against the First Order.

Wouldn’t they be fighting the Final Order though? Like, the only First Order present on Exegol are on the Steadfast.

Hal 9000 said:

Another issue is that 3PO translating the inscription doesn’t give the characters any solid information. In the theatrical, it provided important information and the heroes had to have both that knowledge and the blade itself. In this proposed plot revision, they would essentially only learn that they… need to get the blade back. All they’d learn is that Rey needs to tap into darkness somehow. Feels a little muddy.

This is my biggest issue with it all tbh. Eliminating the dagger as the most obvious reason for how Kylo knew where she went isn’t as important as potentially eliminating the entire point of the whole Kijimi side mission (and 3PO’s sacrifice, at that)

Like, it opens up a whole can of worms. Why did the vision only show itself to Rey on the Steadfast instead of on Pasaana? If you say it’s because of 3PO’s translation, I don’t really buy that. What exactly does “embrace the darkness” mean, and why didn’t she qualify for it before? It’s a very vague concept since we don’t have any real life comparison.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that I don’t think it’s wise to have the vital piece of information the heroes were trying to get for a portion of the movie end up being some abstract concept. Something more concrete is easy to understand and speeds things along without any questions asked.

I hate to say it, but I feel like you’d be creating biggers problems by trying to patch this small one.

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s the establishing shot replacing all three of the previous shots.

https://vimeo.com/557008192

Password: fanedit

I ramped the speed another 25% or so, and keyframed the vertical movement to play with the extra space and make it more dynamic. The only thing that’s missing are the TIE fighters.

If we wanted to keep the final TIE forest shot, it might work to just cut the first part of the castle shot and shift it to make room.

I think it’s perfect with just the biomes footage. But it’s hard to say that for sure I suppose until the TIEs are put in.

Cinefy said:

NeverarGreat said:

Here’s the Mustafar Establishing shot:

https://vimeo.com/556942186

Great stuff, only thing that gets me is Director Krennic’s Shuttle just parked there, hoping Popsketti can do us some First Order Tie Fighters when the time comes.

Honestly it’s such a small detail that you could call it an Easter egg or simply an abandoned shuttle that was left there after the Empire fell.

If we want perfection, then yeah might be good to remove it.

Nindroid243 said:

Can I have a link to this?

PM sent!

Hal, I see axlanian sent you some audio for the 3PO/stormtrooper scene in the “things I still need to do” section. What sequence of lines did we end up going with?

Oh, and congrats on 9000 posts!

RogueLeader said:

My guess is that Kylo was able to translate the dagger, that’s how he knew. But we’re never told that, and it’s never even hinted at. This is a pretty cool way to show how he knows.

Yes that’s canon. I’d say it’s at least slightly hinted at since they were able to figure out so much about the Aki-Aki necklace so easily. So a Sith relic like that would be a cakewalk for whatever they’ve got in their databases (especially since they aren’t bound by laws passed by the Republic).

The first version of this project is now available. I will personally message everyone who expressed interest previously with this latest version. If I miss you, feel free to reach out here.

As I said previously, a v2 of this project is inevitable once Faraday reads through it. But that won’t be for a while. In the meantime, feel free to report any issues with the novel so I can correct them for that version.

NeverarGreat said:

A Work-in-progress on color correcting and forest-ing the Vader Castle shot:

Obviously the lights of the castle will be darkened.

As far as the shot length, I’ve sped it up 1000% (10X speed) and that’s still not enough to simply replace the castle from the original 3 shot establishing sequence. I don’t want to speed it up more since the smoke and fog looks odd (and I’ll have to re-track a slower version of the lavafall regardless), so I’m thinking that it might be possible to use this one shot to replace all three.

Thoughts?

Impressive. Most impressive.

I’m fine with it myself. I was just speaking for the lore nuts who believe it is an actual Sith ability meant to stagger opponents. But I’m not sure that’s canon anymore. Could be legends.

It’s a nice callback to ROTS, so why not.

Hal 9000 said:

Just to be clear, because I do plan to give it a try, you mean the sound he makes while making that spin lunge at the group of four Jedi?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_XWomD6TazQ

Yeah that’s the one they’re talking about.

I’m not entirely sure about doing that, because the scream was meant to be imposing and fear-inducing. If we included the same scream with his death, that’s kinda the opposite I feel like.

I also agree with Burbin.

NeverarGreat said:

Oh yeah, I’m basically just taking Restructured’s changes for the end of the film. Thanks for pointing that out 😃

Sweet! After reading through the change log I’m really enjoying what else you’ve done here. Could I have a link as well?

Sorry about the double post, but in the standard edition I don’t see any plans for the following changes from Restructured:

“Color corrected Ach-to to bring it a little closer to the corresponding scene’s lighting and weather conditions in The Last Jedi.
Added a few subtle porg sounds to the background, replacing two native bird sounds”

Are those still going to be included or are you opting out of those?

Before the new Falcon footage I would have said keep the child laughter. But yeah, it works fantastic as-is. Lots of time for you to realize what he’s thinking about.

RogueLeader said:

Here are a few things.

Puppet Show (3rd Pass):
https://vimeo.com/555049417

Mustafar:
https://vimeo.com/555122074

Captain Hux:
https://vimeo.com/555127774

All 3 are perfect imo. Obviously the Mustafar shot would have to be shortened a bit to fit in with our current sequence but other than that it’s great.

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

What’s wrong with Ben’s “ow” being his final line?

… Ok, now you’re just bleeping with us.

Nah, he’s being genuine I’m pretty sure lol.

Hal 9000 said:

NeverarGreat said:
Though you might want to avoid watching this edit when it’s done unless you are resigned to port more changes to Restructured 😉

I take this warning seriously.

Definitely have to agree with Nev’s comment. Seeing this just makes me want this scene in Restructured lol. Nicely done Nev.

The novelization had his last line be in Rey’s head after he dies: “Noones ever really gone.” Not only is it a nice callback to Luke, but it also explains why Rey suddenly looks happy as she’s flying away in her X-wing.

Too bad he never said that anywhere.

Hal 9000 said:

I’m looney to be thinking this, but would it be easy to make his saber green instead? Could be a subtle way to suggest the events tapped into the existing mythicism surrounding Luke, as people conflate it with his presumably famous green saber.

Just an idea, not even a suggestion! I really love the way this looks. I never knew TROS would give us something this nice.

Faraday did that in his novelization. I opted for the blue saber myself.

I suppose there isn’t a correct answer there, but I went with blue because the green one never shows up in the movie (except the flashback). Rey is wielding the blue one, so it has more meaning imo.

RogueLeader said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Knight of Kalee said:

Cadavra said:

Further, removing the dialogue doesn’t solve the problem of gathering such a large force so quickly. You would need added scenes to do that.

To clarify, I’m not proposing a better justification for assembling the fleet so quickly. I’m proposing eliminating the very idea that the fleet was assembled so quickly to begin with, but rather that it was already assembled by the time TROS begins. Poe’s lines are a hurdle to this change because, as one of the Resistance’s top leaders (and THE co-General by the time of the final battle), he would presumably have some idea of the fleet’s actual size.

Yeah, this make sense. I honestly expected Lando or Poe would transmit an inspiring message to the worlds much like Ezra or Mon Mothma did in Rebels, asking them to meet Lando at some kind of rendezvous point. Not saying all the people in the galaxy wouldn’t be instantly swayed by Lando’s charm but it feels a bit of a reach to think the Falcon visited the systems one by one (considering most of them were also besieged by First Order forces) in such a short span.

This is the canon answer. He went in person to a few places but he beamed an inspirational message to the rest.

But, I do think the new crawl helps get the idea across that people are rebelling across the galaxy now. I think cutting Poe’s line, “They’ve given up” could potentially help. I mean, if we’re recontextualizing Kijimi to be in the middle of a revolt, it might come off as weird for Poe to say “they’ve given up” when they’re literally watching explosions in the distant streets. So the conversation could go from “Everyone is so afraid” to “Hey, they win by making us think we’re alone…”

For what it’s worth, I interpreted his “everyone is so afraid” as people being out for themselves and not wanting to officially join the Resistance.

Which in the end, he was partially right. Everyone came together, but it wasn’t under the banner of the Resistance, but the galaxy as a whole.

RogueLeader said:

Here is the two-shot test for the puppet show. I made a few changes but I’ll wait and see what people notice. Let me know what y’all think.

https://vimeo.com/554491835

I think it’s perfect. Flawless execution.