Tbh, I don’t like the idea of impressions, either. I really only like the actual voices of the actors coming from separate sources.
Here’s my edit of DJ’s talk with Finn. Yet again, another concept that would have worked well with Finn but I feel it wasn’t described enough to make sense:
“Help the…you can’t…look,” DJ began, then he stopped to put his thoughts in order.
“At the end of the day, only the corrupt win from war. Good guys, bad guys, them’s made-up words to keep everyone at each other’s throats. Keeps the money spinning around. Distracts from the bigger enemy. That’s who I really enjoy stealing from…A-ha!”
DJ grinned at something he found on the console, then thumbed a key. A schematic of a TIE fighter appeared, followed by diagrams of a scout walker, TIE bomber, and a TIE interceptor.
“This guy’s an arms dealer,” DJ said. “Bought this beauty selling ships to the bad guys.”
But the next diagram that appeared was a New Republic T-70 X-wing. Then a RZ-2 A-wing interceptor popped up. Finn had a sinking feeling the list went on even further.
“And the good,” DJ said, eyes twinkling. “Canto Bight is known for selling the most weapons and ships to both sides of the war.”
Finn’s face fell, and DJ saw the confusion on his face replaced by dismay.
“Finn, let me learn you something big,” he said. “It’s all a machine, partner. And the assembly line ain’t ever gonna stop churning out more wars for people to fight. Live free. Don’t join.”
Fair points, Burbin. I too hope that the line can be configured that way to sound natural.
The only AI I’ve heard that is convincing is the Ben Solo one. The rest just aren’t there yet.
Another thing worth mentioning about the whole “sensed the death of her son” thingy is that the film is built around it. Leia’s body doesn’t vanish until Ben’s does because that’s when she’s completed her “Jedi path”. Yes, it may be stupid, but it’s just the way they made the film.
Yeah that’s the one part that doesn’t quite fit my perspective. I think Luke’s line there is the only reason why people interpreted it as he never read them.
I wonder if it would be possible to remove just Luke’s line. Probably not, sadly.
I suppose in regular English it would be: “Have you even read them? They were not page-turners.” So his question doesn’t imply he hasn’t read them, it’s more of a “Hey, nothing lost.”
Ah I just never interpreted it that way I suppose. Just because they weren’t page turners doesn’t mean he hasn’t read them. School textbooks aren’t page turners but we still read them if we want to pass our classes lol.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but when exactly does Luke say that he’s never read them? I’ve heard people say that before but I still to this day don’t know how people got that out of the Yoda scene.
The flow of the beginning of the movie never made much sense to me (even while seeing it the first time) so I’m glad we changed that. But the flow of the ending scenes never felt off to me at all. So I agree with Hal that we should keep it the way it is.
It’s the same as Poppa’s edit. A walker explodes Rose’s speeder, and a walker explodes Finn’s before he reaches his target. The fact that he walks out of it mostly unscathed while Rose is knocked out and injured is a subtle hint at his Force sensitivity (or just lazy writing, lol).
Here is my surprise modification to the ending:
Once he was sure Bargwill could no longer see him, Temiri called his broom to his hand - an ability his friends were jealous of - and returned to sweeping out the fathier stables. The beasts were racing, but soon they’d be led back in and need to be washed and groomed. There’d be a lot to do before they could bed down for the night, and maybe Oniho would be too tired to finish the story and tell him what had happened to the Jedi Master who’d fought an entire army all by himself.
The stable doors were open and the stars blazed in Cantonica’s night sky, above the racetrack. The strokes of his broom stopped when it collided with something that made a jingling noise - a bag overflowing with credits. Temiri could hardly believe his eyes as he heaved it up and inspected its contents.
Temiri counted enough in the bag for him and the rest of the children to never have to work another day for Bargwill ever again.
Movement in the corner of his eye caught his attention. There was a man by the stable door, from the casino based on his appearance. He wore a white tuxedo and a flowing cape. On his lapel was a pin of some sort of red flower. The man gave him a wide, mustachioed grin before walking off.
Temiri followed the man outside, but he had disappeared in the night. All he could see were the stars, which he could now feel calling out to him. The adventures he had always dreamed of having with Arashell were no longer out of reach.
As he stared up at the stars, the boy absentmindedly turned the broom in his hands until he held it at his side, like a lightsaber.
Interestingly enough, the original novelization provides no indication that he is Force sensitive, so I added that. As for the children being wage slaves instead of actual slaves, that is the canon answer, so no biggie there. And since Lando doesn’t show up on Crait, this scene is meant to be his redemption and turnaround moment.
Here are a bunch of things I’m considering for my v2:
There are probably some other things I’m forgetting, but ah well. My TLJ project is nearing completion, so I’ll be working on these things and more when that’s done.
Gotcha sounds good Ady 👍
ESB:R -
Track 1 - New audio mix featuring Jason Wingreen’s original Boba Fett dub.
Track 2 - Same audio mix as above but with Temuera Morrison’s Boba Fett dub.
For some reason I’m not seeing a second audio track. Is this supposed to be made available with the higher bitrate version? Or is there something wrong on my end?
Hooray! Now I can check ESB off for “never need another fan edit of”. Can’t wait to see it.
The novelization doesn’t really provide the opportunity to discuss that right after the throne room since Rey doesn’t really have many scenes beyond that point.
I think I’ll be able to include it in the final scene she’s in on the Falcon. She’s surrounded by what is left of the Resistance, and decides to place her self worth in them (which of course is still wrong, but that’s for TROS to settle).
I could replace “for so long” with “for as long as she could remember” to make those feelings cover her whole life. Good catch.
I’ve been struggling with what to put there instead of “I saw the rest”. It’s mostly a formatting issue, so I thought I’d reference what he said earlier. But I suppose it might work without it.
Here’s where I’m at with the Kylo/Rey throne room scene thus far.
He advanced on Rey, his grandfather’s lightsaber hilt held loosely in one hand. There was clearly no threat in his approach. Somehow, suddenly, that scared her even more.
“Do you want to know the truth about your parents?” he asked. “Or have you always known and you have just hidden it away - hidden it from yourself? You know the truth. Say it.”
Rey tried to find the strength to deny him, to shove him away. But he was right. She did know the truth - and it was the same as her greatest fear, the one that had influenced her actions for so long. A truth she could no longer find refuge from.
“They were nobodies,” she admitted.
“I saw the rest,” Kylo said. “They were filthy junk traders who sold you off for drinking money. You meant nothing to them.”
Tears filled Rey’s eyes. She fought to keep her emotions contained, fearing that if she released them for even a moment they would overwhelm her and sweep her away into a dark abyss.
“Your greatest fear is that you will be abandoned by those closest to you for not being good enough. As is mine.”
Kylo was a pace away now, his eyes locked on hers.
“The truth is, that’s exactly what you deserve,” he said. “You have no place in this story. You come from nothing. You are nothing.”
And then his eyes softened.
“But not to me,” he said gently. “To me you’re everything. Only together can we find the belonging we seek.”
His breathing was heavy and deep as he extended his black-gloved hand to her. He gripped the lightsaber in his other hand tightly.
“Join me. Please.”
Never heard of that, but it looks like he had Kylo order the holocams, which doesn’t fall in line with his character as much as it does with Hux.
I actually leaned into the idea that Kylo didn’t commit many atrocities except for killing Han. For example, I used the canon idea that a Force storm Kylo couldn’t control destroyed the temple, and he didn’t actually kill anybody there intentionally. It makes it all the more tragic, and makes it more relatable to want Ben survive after his redemption (which is what happens). What I like about Kylo is that he’s trying to be somebody he isn’t, so when he finally becomes Ben again it’s more rewarding.
Off-topic now, but I’m really enjoying adding holocam droids to the battle of Crait. Essentially, at the beginning of it I’m having Hux insist that the whole thing is to be recorded for the galaxy to witness. This then leads into a custom Canto Bight scene I’m doing with Lando where the gamblers are betting on the outcome of the fight (because they see it as a game), which disgusts him. The holocam droids also explain why the First Order lets Finn and Rose escape to the base, because Hux wants the galaxy to see their weakness. And, finally, it allows the entire galaxy to see the badass Luke that inspires them.
You could replace the energy blade weapon with the tail of Alolan Exeggutor. The pun still works for the evolution.
Also, if anyone who’s watched the workprint wants to give feedback on anything that stood out - bad or good - I’d appreciate it! There’s no pressure, if you just want to watch the workprint, but if you do want to give your thoughts on it, then I’m very happy to hear them.
I will say though, one spot that I think is a standout is removing the dialogue with Rey in the cave. Personally, it was a mistake to have Rey “explaining” things. It took me out of the scene and had me feel, nothing. No impact before he actually speaking in that scene.
By simply removing the voice over, we are now engaged. It has more impact. It’s just better. Don’t tell us what is going on, let’s feel/see it for ourselves.
I might want a link to the workprint just to experience this. I’m also curious to see how well the echoes are cleared up.
Man, if it’s flawless enough, I’d wonder why Hal or Poppa didn’t do this.
Hal was right earlier. The emphasis on “end” isn’t there properly.
EDIT: Also, should mention I agree with Neerb’s thoughts about this line in general - never was a big deal to me.
Poppa’s edit actually doesn’t remove it, I’m pretty sure. I had to go in and remove it myself. Was pretty easy to do it seamlessly, though.
You’re going to have to cover up the crystal foxes with a bunch of Diancie.