Jar Jar Bricks

Hal 9000 said:

Does anyone besides masked Kylo and Palptine refer to Rey as a scavenger? I wonder how feasible it may be to remove that, as she seemed to move past that in the eyes of all the characters.

Yes. When Finn says, “You were a spice runner?” to Poe he responds with something like “You were a stormtrooper? And you were a scavenger? We can do this all day.” I personally liked that joke, so I would prefer not to mess with it.

Hal 9000 said:

Hmmm…

Crawl

Pan down to establishing shot of TIEs flying over Mustafar

Cut to interior of Star Destroyer, as Vader’s helmet emerges and Kylo places his hand on it. Maybe Vader says something vaguely relevant or just the vision that was there originally. Kylo begins to walk off.

This makes even more sense considering that he’s about to pay a visit to his grandfather’s castle. Of course he’d commune with the mask.

kewlfish said:

Okay so I’m pretty new at this After Effects thing but I edited a scene for Mustafar from Rogue One. The very beginning of the scene still has a portion from where I removed the ship, but I didn’t know how much to cut (some editors like to play around with footage or maybe it could be taken away with a wipe or something). It’s only a couple of seconds but maybe it could be useful.

https://vimeo.com/418346382
password: Ascendant

This was really just a rough draft to see if I could do it, it seems kind of low quality so I might have to look into trying to find a way to clean it up a little before somebody actually uses it.

One thing I think we should do to any reused shots is mirror the image. It usually does a good job of making it look new.

kewlfish said:

Between the Force ghosts clip, the new Rey Skywalker delivery and the Falcon flying towards the two suns, this is gonna be one hell of an ending!

Phenomenal work everyone, like I got goosebumps!

You even forgot one of the most important parts - Ben’s ghost!

Terrybartoner said:

The new rey skywalker audio switch is incredible, I actually like the ending a lot more just by changing the delivery. Great idea, I straight up got goosebumps

I agree. When I first read the leaks online I knew that it all depended on the delivery of that line for it to be cringe or not. I like this delivery way more.

krausfadr said:

Nice looking crawl, Jar Jar Bricks, was this done in blender?

Correcto 👍

Decided to make my own personal crawl today just in case I’m personally not happy with whatever we end up going with. I’ve based it on what a couple of other people have said so far.
https://vimeo.com/416095714
PW: fanedit

Hal, I know you just made it quite clear that you only want a Rey Nobody edit, but would it be possible to still have an optional file without those changes?

DominicCobb said:

One thought I had recently regarding the Force ghost Ben angle, why not just Ben and Leia? That way it focuses on them finally reunited, and we don’t have to debate whether Anakin should be involved with this Skywalker family get together.

Then her declaration wouldn’t make sense as Leia is an Organa and Ben a Solo.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

benduwan said:

looks really great.
but the escape is cut.the scene at the fueltank is missing.
i know the quality is…,but EXTENDED 😃

There’s a few shots and lines missing between them walking down the fuel tanks, and Anakin saying “No structue”. I’d love to use it in a workprint cut of the film however.

Here’s that missing stuff from the script for those interested

They run, EXPLOSIONS rattle the ship, and pipes continue to burst around them, spilling more fuel into the hallway. At the far end, SIX SUPER BATTLE DROIDS drop into the fuel. The SOUNDS OF SHIELD DOORS CLOSING AND LOCKING ECHO throughout the hallway. They pass several large power generators, which are topped with SPARKING excess power dischargers.
ANAKIN: They’re sealing this section off.
OBI-WAN: Six droids coming our way!
The last of the DOORS CAN BE HEARD CLOSING in the distance.
ANAKIN: Keep moving. There must be vents . . . This way.
They move along a wall. ANAKIN climbs up the side to a small vent. The fuel gets closer to the SPARKING dischargers.
OBI-WAN: We’ll never get through that. It’s too small!
They move toward a second vent. OBI-WAN is swimming in the fuel as it reaches to within a couple yards of the ceiling. ANAKIN feels along the ceiling and finds another smaller vent. He closes his eyes and tries to sense an opening, then he moves on. OBI-WAN is forced into hand-to-hand combat with one of the SUPER BATTLE DROIDS. It pulls the Jedi under the fuel. Just before he is about to drown, OBI-WAN disables the SUPER BATTLE DROID by pushing him into an exhaust pipe.
The fuel is up to the Jedi’s chins. ANAKIN finds a very, very small metal grate, then pounds on it until the tiny grate breaks loose.
ANAKIN: I found our escape vent.
OBI-WAN: Anakin, this is no time for jokes. We’re in serious trouble here.
ANAKIN: Only in your mind. My Master. Look, no structure. . . .
ANAKIN grabs the side of the tiny hole and gives it a big yank, ripping a large panel loose revealing a “man-sized” work shaft. They scramble through it as the DROIDS swim closer.

And also, here’s a (final?) cut of the Star Tours clip with some new SFX and score added to try and seemlessly cut 3 clips together

The second jump in quality is almost unnoticeable (probably since I’m on my phone). Although I can still see a jump in the first one. Honestly, I can probably look past that screen showing them in a hallway even though they’re in the hangar if it’s for the best.

Octorox said:

Bobson Dugnutt said:

benduwan said:

do you use for your edit “making of” and “behind the scenes” parts too?

Is there any specific shots or clips that would be workable?

Jar Jar Bricks said:

If I may, I would recommend your alternate Shaak-Ti clip with the extra space battle shot before the scene. This way, nothing needs to be cut, and it follows the original script better.

I don’t know if the clip works, the camera work isn’t quite like anything in the film, and is a bit short. I’d like it if it was a bit longer but currently its not going to work, sorry.

Here’s the probably the final cut of the Shaak Ti scene, I’m happy with it unless anyone else has some suggestions on what else to do with it

I’m actually surprised at how well that works, although the cut out of the footage feels a little abrupt with the camera movement.

The footage is supposed to be much longer but since it’s from Star Tours 2 they only released a small portion of it digitally. Perhaps it could be cut even shorter to prevent that abruptness? But then it doesn’t work as well to imply a passage of time.

I know you said that the clip wouldn’t work but I went ahead and made an example of it just to show you what I meant. The camera work is actually quite similar to the intro of the movie, but I know what you mean that it might not fit.
https://youtu.be/AKYW9SBfUUI

Chase Adams said:

Looking good Bobson, glad you’re back!

The clip works well in my opinion! Only problem I can see is that the alien says: “Two jedi have landed in the main hanger bay, we’re tracking them.” aren’t they still cutting down the droids at this point? Why do they need to be tracked through the ship if they aren’t running around like the hologram suggests?

I also noticed this and mentioned it earlier. That infrared screen shows them running through a hallway. The only problem is that I’m not sure what else to do about that.

Humby said:

AbramPT said:

I was going over the most recent draft of the crawl, and while it’s very good, I have just one suggestion.

Original:
“A shadow has consumed the galaxy. To suffocate the spark of rebellion, the First Order has scattered and isolated those with the bravery to face the darkness.”

Grammatically, it feels a little weird starting a sentence with “to”. I think a brief edit to something like “The First Order has scattered and isolated those with the bravery to face the darkness in an attempt to suffocate the spark of rebellion” OR “In an attempt to suffocate the spark of rebellion, the First Order… Etc.”

Something like that. I hope I’m not being too nitpicky!

I agree, I think starting the sentence with “To” seems a bit off.

I have a nitpick of my own, but its more just a personal preference. Does anybody else feel like the sequel content really beat us over the head with the spark/flame metaphor? Similar to how Rogue One and modern OT-era content seems throw the word “hope” around with reckless abandon. Personally, I appreciate those types of metaphors more in smaller doses. I would love to see that particular line swapped to something like “In order to prevent an uprising, the First order has scattered…” But maybe that’s just me.

I am genuinely curious if anybody else feels the same way about the use of spark/flame/hope stuff though? Cool beans.

I think an “upRISING” fits in nicely with the title of the movie too.

sloppy_rig said:

Hi guys,

New-ish to this thread but all the work looks amazing,

I expect this has been discussed but I can’t find any mention of rescoring the fight between kylo and rey. Duel of the Fates or Battle of the heroes would have improved the scene so much. Examples on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaxTawhpOks&t=10s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOpRpYSXfkU

Thoughts?

Yeah we discussed it a bit further back. I think Hal just wanted a brief mention of one of those themes, although I would personally prefer a total rescore.

I decided to do my own take on Hal’s crawl:

Luke Skywalker has ignited a resurgence of hope across the
galaxy. To slow the flames of rebellion, the First Order has
scattered and isolated the brave.

As REY, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training under
the ailing General Leia Organa, their fledgling Resistance
prepares for an inevitable uprising.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader KYLO REN is haunted by the whispers
of a dark presence promising him enough power to crush his
opposition once and for all. . . .

If I may, I would recommend your alternate Shaak-Ti clip with the extra space battle shot before the scene. This way, nothing needs to be cut, and it follows the original script better.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

Switched up the Shaak Ti scene once more by moving the Grevious intro back again and splitting the hanger scene in half, implying that R2 takes time to find Palps, as well as trimming the Grevious walk to the window to move things along a bit faster.

Unfortunately I’m not sure that works either. The infrared screen clearly shows Anakin and Obi-Wan sprinting through a hallway, but then the camera goes back and they’re still in the hangar bay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH3YzXKf2VI
Better resolution but still only 720P. It’s also cut short. Should be suitable for implying a passage of time, however.

Strange… I could have sworn there was like a 10 second clip of the space battle above Coruscant that wasn’t used in the movie. Maybe it was made for the theme park? Am I just going crazy?
Edit: NVM I found it. The only problem is that this video is really low res. Does anybody know where it comes from?
https://youtu.be/0C4EoJq3xLE?t=406

KumoNin said:

Might there be any way at all to indicate passage of time with some additional shot inbetween?

Yes, I do believe there is a couple of unused space battle shots. I’m going to try looking for it on YouTube.

Cameron Samurai said:

Bobson Dugnutt said:

Cameron Samurai said:

Bobson Dugnutt said:

I’ve been considering using some Grevious lines from the game to replace the redunant lightsaber collection line and tried out a few here.

https://vimeo.com/407869290

Thoughts?

I can audibly tell when the sound bites occur (presume that’ll eventually be smoothed over), but yeah, that was timed well

Do you prefer either line (the pathetic one or the lightsaber one)

I’ll go with the “pathetic” line, it sounds more confrontational

Yes, the “You Jedi are all the same” and “pathetic” are both parts of the same line.

The “You Jedi are all the same” line is better because the other line implies that they are using their light saber, even though they’re just standing there.

CamSMurph said:

Okay, regarding the Shaak Ti death scene… HOW DID THEY MANAGE TO AVOID AN ‘R’ RATING WITH THAT SHOT???

Because it wasn’t in the movie, that’s why. Who knows, maybe that was part of the reason it got deleted.

I honestly prefer the old order of things when it comes to the Shaak-Ti scene. It seems strange that Grievous magically teleports from the bridge to where Anakin and Obi-Wan are in a matter of seconds.