Agreed. I thought I remembered a mock-up shot with the castle in the background with the TIEs flying towards the camera over some burnt up trees. I liked that one shot a lot more.
That clip is only a couple of seconds long I’m pretty sure.
jonh was working on a couple fixes to the haircut scene last we heard, and then I’ll pass it to skenera to hopefully de-blue it if jonh hasn’t already.
And here’s the opening: https://vimeo.com/506231329
Sorry if I missed something important, but why exactly isn’t the dimmed window castle shot included in this?
Correct, Mustafar is in a finished state. However, it was at one point suggested that a bit of fog is placed beside our current Vader’s castle shot to blend it all together a bit better. Adding a few cracks to the castle’s stone wouldn’t hurt either, but that would be harder to do.
Everybody has their own ideal special edition. My own would most likely be similar to yours, only removing Jedi Rocks and Vader’s “No”. I like the Hayden ghost because it’s what I grew up with. Unfortunately, I don’t think a version like that exists on this site.
Yeah it doesn’t have to be too descriptive. Although I would prefer if the Eye was described for what it actually looks like in canon.
In the new canon comics, Vader actually met with the Eye. And Vader obviously placed him in charge with defending his wayfinder. I think it would be interesting for him to recognize Kylo as the heir of Vader initially (which doesn’t happen in the original novel), and then they could talk from there. I also think it would be interesting if Kylo killed the Eye after he got what he wanted from him.
EDIT: Maybe he could get him angry by saying that he is too conflicted still, but not to fear because he will soon discover his true self. So Kylo kills him in order to try to prove that he can be dark.
My only issue is that the Eye requires introduction, which takes time and reader investment, and then never shows up again. I left the stuff with Hux and Pryde because they’re both characters throughout the film, and their scene helps introduce us to both of them, to Kylo, to the First Order and its structure and attitude, to where the plot is headed, and sets up the dynamics of all three characters in relation to each other. The Eye just sets up, well, the Eye, and I think having Kylo talk to a mysterious ancient thing he doesn’t fully understand treads on the toes of Kylo talking to Palpatine.
I feel like these kinds of characters sometimes show up in stories and fairy tales though. Like a wise old hermit or a witch that tells the main character something important about themselves and then vanishes. Of course, this would be the first time something like that appeared in Star Wars.
EDIT: For example, there is the witches from Macbeth. Of course, they appear more later on in the story. But there are other examples as well.
What you are worried about is exactly what happened with the film we got in the end. They opted to deleted virtually everything from the opening on Mustafar. It’s incredibly disappointing that we don’t have the deleted scenes for Hux and Pride as well as the Eye.
She trained at one of the original Jedi temples and is now the protector of the sacred texts that she took from the library before it was destroyed. As the last Jedi (as far as we know, Filoni…), she’s also the protector of their entire culture in general (a thousand generations live in you now).
Yeah kinda assumed this would be the answer. She’s also the defender of the Skywalker legacy.
All of this talk about her lightsaber reminds me of something. Have we have discussed why her lightsaber is yellow? In canon, only temple guards have them. What exactly is Rey defending? Furthermore, George Lucas prevented Filoni from giving Ashoka a yellow mini-blade in a later season of The Clone Wars, so they instead gave her a yellowish green blade. So according to George Lucas’ rules, Rey’s lightsaber should either be a shade of green or blue.
Honestly, I don’t really care either way but it is definitely something to consider.
Here is the passage from the original novelization:
"The Eye cocked its head, making an eerie squealing noise. It took a moment for Kylo to realize the creature was laughing at him. “No need for that,” the Eye said. “Do you really think my lord would have left it in the guardianship of one who could be swayed by a trick of the Force?”
No, he supposed not.
“You’ve been seeking it for a while, yes? I must warn you, our fiery planet burns away deception. If you proceed down this path, you will encounter your true self.”’
I would say that the creature guarding the Wayfinder is critical for Kylo’s character arc. He tells him that he will discover his true self at the end of this journey, which is something I wish would have been in the film.
There’s never really a sense in the big print that Kylo feels like he’s rushing towards something in that way, although it could be interesting to build on the conversation with the creature by adding that. Have him assume he’s racing towards one destiny (being Supreme Leader Kylo Ren), then after his conversation with Han, he realises it was actually the opposite this whole time (being a redeemed Ben Solo).
There’s a playful meta to that which I really like - the creature basically points out to him how a character arc works. I’ll keep the idea in mind as I go through the rest of the book.
Yes that’s exactly what I mean. In TLJ he thinks he will only become what he was meant to be when he lets the past die. So when the Eye of Webbish Bog tells him he is about to become what he was meant to be, he’s thinking, “Oh boy, I finally won’t have to deal with all of these feelings of regret and pain. They’ll just vanish.” Instead, he ironically embraces the past in the end to discover he was Ben Solo all along.
I would say that the creature guarding the Wayfinder is critical for Kylo’s character arc. He tells him that he will discover his true self at the end of this journey, which is something I wish would have been in the film.
May I also have a link with audio please?
Sorry to add to the mass of requests.
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Yeah, guess you’re right. Sorry for making a huge deal out of this everyone, I can get a little heated sometimes. I think I am going to take a few days off of this site. If you haven’t noticed, I’ve been spending way too much time on here.
Yes, I am letting it go because I am specifically reporting their site to Disney anti-piracy. Do not be concerned, I am not mentioning this site whatsoever. I doubt I will receive a response but it will at least help me feel better about all of this.
No, I am simply concerned about the safety of this community. What they are doing is extremely dangerous. I was legitimately considering a donation to their cause until I realized that I shouldn’t have to pay to see content that is rightfully owned by Disney.
Here is the proof if you don’t believe me:
Additionally, they made an account here in June that was instantly banned. Look at the records on this site… I’m sorry, but you’re in the wrong here.
The profit-making shit show that is Fixing Disney Star Wars
Dude, let it go! You have no idea how much they’re spending on each project nor how much is being donated. Non profile doesn’t mean designers/vfx artists/voice actors works for free. 🤦🏻♂️
Who ever it was used EbSynth from what I recall.
Yes, it’s true that there isn’t necessarily any profit-making involved. However, that still doesn’t give them the right to collect funds to create content based upon intellectual property that isn’t their own. Star Wars Theory funded his fan film entirely through his own funds, and he didn’t restrict access to seeing his work based upon whether you are paying him directly or not. If the Fixing Disney Star Wars team had a Patreon, and simply posted their content for everyone to see on YouTube while saying, “Hey, if you like us, feel free to support us financially through donations” then it wouldn’t be a problem. It becomes a problem when the content itself (which isn’t their property even if they create it) is an incentive to supply funding. Yes, it sucks to have to spend that much money on stuff, but they aren’t being forced to do any of that work. It should be coming solely from their ambition as fans of the franchise.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Star wars theory funds his films with donations and YouTube money. He even says “without you guys these fan films wouldn’t be possible”. It’s kinda boring having the same argument on different threads so I’ll leave it there.
No you don’t know what you’re talking about. I clearly made that distinction in my argument. I have no qualms with donations. The problem comes when you restrict access to content that isn’t intellectually yours based upon whether you donated or not.
Their team literally just said that for 2 months the only way you will be able to see their fan edit is if you pay them via SubscribeStar. If that isn’t illegal then I don’t know what is.
The profit-making shit show that is Fixing Disney Star Wars
Dude, let it go! You have no idea how much they’re spending on each project nor how much is being donated. Non profile doesn’t mean designers/vfx artists/voice actors works for free. 🤦🏻♂️
Who ever it was used EbSynth from what I recall.
Yes, it’s true that there isn’t necessarily any profit-making involved. However, that still doesn’t give them the right to collect funds to create content based upon intellectual property that isn’t their own. Star Wars Theory funded his fan film entirely through his own funds, and he didn’t restrict access to seeing his work based upon whether you are paying him directly or not. If the Fixing Disney Star Wars team had a Patreon, and simply posted their content for everyone to see on YouTube while saying, “Hey, if you like us, feel free to support us financially through donations” then it wouldn’t be a problem. It becomes a problem when the content itself (which isn’t their property even if they create it) is an incentive to supply funding. Yes, it sucks to have to spend that much money on stuff, but they aren’t being forced to do any of that work. It should be coming solely from their ambition as fans of the franchise.
Why have we never considered adding laser bolts to that shot? Thank you for the idea sasquatch.
It’s choppy, the lighting and shadows are off, the fluttering leaves in the air literally just appear out of now where and the the textures on everything are unrealistic. It sticks out really bad. I’m sorry … I just don’t get it…
+1
Also, the Vader’s castle fly-by work is going great- is anyone still trying to add the castle into the background when Kylo holds up the wayfinder, or was that ever finished?
Yes I’m like 99% sure that shot was finished. It’s very subtle, though.
Honestly, I’m not so sure about the castle shot either. It still looks too obvious that it was ripped from Rogue One for me.
I just watched the scene in Rogue One which it is ripped from and it legitimately took me an entire minute to realize where we ripped it from in the landing sequence. IMO the color difference, reversal, and mirroring of the image make it look completely original.
In the topic of switching up the trees, would it be possible to re-colour the trees from Mandalorian: The Jedi? Is there a shot in there that could be laid underneath the TIEs?
I just took a peek at the episode and I’m pretty sure that every aerial shot has Mando’s ship in it so it would have to be edited out. Additionally, the camera is really low to the ground (like below the trees kinda low). Not sure that it would work.