Jar Jar Bricks

Well, guess I’ll have to allocate some time in the near future to go digging here. If I find out afterwards that it’s in a completely different thread I may go crazy. Just saying.

I legitimately remember seeing the image and people commenting on how cool it looks. So I know it’s somewhere on this site.

If I find it, I’ll probably start looking at some internet tutorials on how to implement an image seamlessly into video. Because I agree that it would really be the capstone of this edit.

Was it in this thread that somebody shared a picture of what it should look like? Or am I just imagining that somebody did that to begin with (I’m fairly certain I remember seeing this though).

True. Thank you brother.

Well like I said, nothing in particular has to happen exactly. Maybe a laser bolt hitting him but then nothing happens to the Luke figurine. Cue alien children laughing.

As for the clarity of it being Luke, if you were watching the movies back to back you’d know what it’s referring to. Especially since the previous movie ends with the exact same scene being illustrated with toys.

So apparently the festival on Pasaana is all about “honoring the past and looking forward to the future” according to Wookiepedia. All the more reason why Luke’s final stand would be a fitting inclusion.

The camera only shows the puppet show for a split second, and I’m pretty sure somebody on here already created a fitting image of it. If I could get ahold of the image I’d try to insert it into the video (while still allowing movement all around the puppets)

It wouldn’t necessarily have to be done through VFX. If somebody could create real life props and record them in front of a green screen, I’m pretty sure it could be inserted into the film.

Thing is… I’m in no way artsy enough for that.

Brewzter, that idea is exactly why I wish we could have Luke’s standoff replace the puppet show on Pasaana. I don’t care if it was their cultural holiday, I still feel that it would have been amazing to show it there again.

I feel that was one of the main messages of TLJ, yes. He is the spark that lights the fire that burns the First Order down.

Looking great! It is a subtly different effect from Kylo’s but that’s perfect. Pretty sure his cracked because he failed to properly make his crystal bleed. Rey’s, on the other hand, was completely ripped in two.

Hal 9000 said:

Hey, that’s a cool idea! I think it would be just a little muddy to have the First Order seeming to invade the galaxy all at once while Palpatine’s announcement goes out. Seems like they’d already have done that well before this point.

I don’t think I’ll go for it for this project, but it’s certainly cool!

My thoughts exactly Hal.

And MR says in the video that he doesn’t understand why the rest of the galaxy came to help in the end without them invading like that. But since we have the “For Skywalker” sounds, I think we’ve already given enough of a reason.

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, while a little confusing on first viewing, those are supposed to be First Order Destroyers, as the ‘Final Order’ fleet was still relegated to Exegol. Except for one ship that just left on its own to blow up Kijimi.

Is there footage of this idea? First I’ve heard of it.

Yes there is. Here is MR’s video. It’s one of the first things he shows. Looks like his clip would work as it is (minus some finishing touches), as they are First Order.

https://youtu.be/wWy5RtoQMMc

Although, it’s worth noting that he is playing Palpatine’s message over all of this. I know we only played a small portion of it. And, personally, I’m only interesting in the arrival to Coruscant.

Yes, but we’re talking about having these Star Destroyers showing up earlier in the film and arriving at their actual planets, possibly even with Kylo on board one of them (at least that is what I’ve seen MR do). At that point, they would most certainly have to be First Order in nature.

Movies Remastered said:

but I’ve had a lot of complaints from people saying I’ve used the wrong ships. If anyone knows of any better footage of Palps fleet then please let me know…

Pretty sure if we’re going to use those shots then Hal (and myself) would actually want them to be First Order Star Destroyers, not Palpy’s. A part of the reason for removing Kijimi’s destruction is that it makes no sense that an individual Final Order Star Destroyer was able to take off without the rest so effortlessly.

Furthermore, Palpatine tells Kylo he will only receive his ships once he does as he asks (“Kill the girl”). So why would he give the First Order access to some of his ships immediately after saying that? Doesn’t make much sense.

It’s definitely a good thing to add in because we have some visual representations of “all the Jedi” now. It only makes sense that at some point in the movie we see another Sith besides Palpatine to match his “all the Sith” line.

I was under the impression that those Star Destroyers above the planets were First Order in nature. In which case they would have been there for a while. Or am I wrong in assuming that? It makes more sense that way; by removing Kijimi’s destruction, the viewer assumes that all Final Order destroyers were on Exegol and never escaped.

Chase Adams said:

Knight of Kalee said:

It’d be great if someone could tinker with the Sith statue behind Kylo Ren to make it look like Darth Nihilus or Revan.

Gave it a shot:

https://youtu.be/LLmAaf8SRwA

Mind you, this is a first attempt.

Looks really good to me (on my phone at least). I wonder if Hal would be interested in putting this in Ascendant?

sherlockpotter said:

And why wouldn’t Rey - Force Healer extraordinaire - just fix the crystal then? I just feel like it will open up more questions than answers, and it won’t lead as effectively to the sabers shorting out after the fight (assuming that effect is still on the list as well).

Kyber crystals ARE actually alive in canon. The reason a crystal turns red is because a Sith makes it bleed. As a result, I’m fairly certain that your first question there is actually the reason as to why her lightsaber doesn’t crackle in the original film. She healed the crystal with her powers. That’s also why she clearly knew about force healing while approaching the snake.

That being said, I prefer to have the crackly saber. Nothing in the films themselves suggest the crystals are alive, so it’s better that Rey couldn’t fully repair the blade.

The only things I see creating a v3 are new visual effects being released by the community or (please God) the release of several deleted scenes from TROS.

TestingOutTheTest said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

sherlockpotter said:

I guess I’m still confused about Palpy flip-flopping between wanting Rey as a child, giving up trying to find her, deciding to kill her, and then going back to finding Rey after Ben turns.

Note: Edited this comment to reflect what I believe Hal is going for.
Palpatine’s plan in the edit we’re creating:

1. Palpatine sends Ochi to track down and kill Rey because he “saw what [she] would become” (a powerful Jedi), but her parents won’t reveal her location. Ochi kills them as he feels they no longer serve any purpose.
2. Palpatine puts all of his efforts into corrupting Ben Solo for an essence transfer.
3. Palpatine wants Snoke to have Kylo kill Rey because he is using only Kylo. Kylo resists.
4. He had already put a ton of effort into corrupting Kylo, so yet again he tells him on Exegol to kill Rey. This is the task which will prove whether or not he is a worthy vessel.
5. Kylo realigns himself with the light, and Palpatine senses it. His new goal is to corrupt Rey and essence transfer into her.
6. She refuses. Then he discovers he can drain their dyad to restore his full strength.

It’s really complicated, but at least it (mostly) makes sense.

Why remove the part where Palpatine wants to get Rey as a child because he knows she’ll grow up to perform the Sith ritual? When her parents refuse to reveal her location and are killed, this is when Palpatine gives up on Rey for his Sith ritual altogether and turns to Ben Solo.

Don’t worry, this idea isn’t entirely removed from this edit. That post of mine you shared originally had that part listed. I only removed it because that isn’t Hal’s goal to still have that idea.

But rest assured, Finn says that Ochi was supposed to take Rey to Exegol after he captures her. At that point, Palps could either do the ritual or kill her; we simply made it up to interpretation. We mostly removed the implication that beyond her childhood he ever wanted her alive, which helps streamline the plot.

Movies Remastered said:

and in my version Ben fixes the crystal after it’s teleported.

Does this mean you aren’t planning on working on the effects after that point in the movie?

I ask because people on this edit, myself included, liked the idea that Ben still has a crackley saber even on the light side. It shows that his past actions still exist. Also, some people could think it was a major visual effects error because up until that point the effect has blatantly been there.

EDIT: Just realized I legitimately have no clue what scenes have been done/still need to be done with the saber effects. Has this scene already been done? If so, no biggie then.

Yes, I do enjoy the new location of the medal shot.

And Hal, you said you ended up going with the sequence I recommended. That’s fine, I think it works well enough. But were you also able to remove Finn’s dubbed line from the audio mix while still having Poe’s sigh?

Burbin said:

sherlockpotter said:

I’ve added some film grain that seems to match the quality of the other footage (but let me know if I should tweak it). Thanks to Burbin for the suggestion - I think it definitely helps to tie everything together! And as a bonus, the color banding doesn’t seem as bad anymore! There’s still a little bit of weird brightness to the right of Leia’s right hand, but that seems to be in the original footage too.

I’ve also gone and made it slightly more blue.

Unless there are any other suggestions, here’s V4, both in context of the scene to make sure it all matches, and as an isolated clip to make inserting it as simple as possible for Hal.

Scene: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zuDJLLg96FG7RyU7b56Fe0OVT6GLdqkf/view?usp=sharing
Clip: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DzaKiOT4X4DKFrPOTqiZpysUfoUDTsT7/view?usp=sharing

You may have to download the video to see the full quality. This is a screenshot of how it should look:

V3: https://i.imgur.com/4xIMw0w.png
V4: https://i.imgur.com/DynQOUH.png

Looks great, the bluer tone matches better too.

Hal, have you considered switching the placement of the medal shot to the first Leia shot? It was suggested earlier and I think it does fit much bettter since in the second shot it jumps from her sitting straight and holding the medal with her right hand to laying down and holidng it with her left hand hand.

+1
I say put sherlock’s color corrected shot into where mildly-yellow put the original.

Hal 9000 said:

Ah, I’m not sure! I would hate to break up the shot of Ben slowly turning to look.

Idk, I kinda like breaking up that shot. Ben is kinda ashamed to look at her, but then she caresses the medal and he looks straight at her.

As for it not matching the lighting, the rest of her body is still darkened. It’s just her hands with the medal that get light. And there are some light sources behind/above her which could possibly do that. Somebody else did some color correcting to the shot, which might fit even better.

Mildly-yellow said:

Here’s my take at inserting the medal.

https://vimeo.com/515500148

I agree that Hal should consider moving it there. Although, it’s his decision ultimately.

The only rationality that I can come up with is that he was ashamed of his “son” and doubted he would be able to have a force-sensitive child. As a result, he ignored his existence until it came back to bite his butt. But of course this explanation relies on the novelization where it states that her father wasn’t force sensitive. Would have really helped if all this was mentioned in the movie.

But yeah, you’re right, none of this was taken into consideration while writing TFA, let alone TLJ.