Jar Jar Bricks

Hal 9000 said:

To me, though, there’s not really an issue with the original. And I’m sure there’ll be EU stuff to fill in his story.

I suppose it’s possible that as a moody teenager he ran away from home (the Resistance) and joined up with the wrong people for a while. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the canon answer eventually.

EDIT: Sherlock, you writing that out made me realize how much of their funny banter you would have to cut out to make this work. As much as I would like to get rid of this to avoid stereotypes, I think I’m gonna have to agree with Hal here.

I agree that he should be a double agent, but we still have to clarify that he was posing as a spice runner. Otherwise Finn teasing him as being a spice runner doesn’t make sense (and man I love the banter between those two).

8 hours is already more than enough. Thanks for the work you’ve already done.

Cool! Something can definitely fit into that timeframe. Have you managed to remove the remaining pieces of the previous puppet show as well?

Thing is that they actually don’t go “back to the search” after that. That’s when the lady asks Rey her last name (another reason why this addition works so well).

sherlockpotter said:

Depending on how exactly the whole festival sequence is cut together, maybe Rey could even be looking around aimlessly, then she hears “Dooba jabba Skywalker!” Or whatever, and that’s what causes her to look over at the puppet show?

And then it could be something like Luke hopping up and down around the walker, saying “Ha ha!” And the kiddies laugh at that.

Omg this. Totally.

And DZ, I believe that is the intention. He is considered a myth in TFA, the myth is proven factual in TLJ, and it brings the entire galaxy together in TROS.

jarbear said:

Not very techy, at all, as for inserting “Skywalker” in it … is it possible or helpful to remove or voice over him with a “new voice” and says whatever he says, but the “new voice” then uses the “Skywalker” line whenever. I would think that may help it sound more natural than how he sounds and then a random “Skywalker” that doesn’t quite match it?

I had considered this as well. The only problem is that whoever voice acts this would have to be proficient in their particular gibberish. Maybe it isn’t as complicated as it sounds?

DominicCobb said:

Arguably you might not even need to have anything happen at all. Just have the puppet bounce around the frame a bit, almost tauntingly. That might actually be the best thing to do regardless.

If we’re sticking to the one second then this would make the most sense.

jarbear said:

Also, for dialogue sake, if it helps, maybe even a simple line of “The Jedi” could help if it is easier to implement than “Luke Skywalker.” Dunno if that helps with anything, but maybe for the alien dialogue? Jabba the Hutt did use, in “english”, “Jedi” and “Jedi Mind trick.” It may … feel more natural?

The kids at the end of TLJ are speaking in another language and still say “Luke Skywalker”. It sounds natural in that scene. I think it would be best to simplify it to “Skywalker” though, as it matches the title more accurately.

jarbear said:

Add a banner somewhere:

“The Luke Skywalker Show”

😛

And then we make a special edition of Ascendant to replace the English text with Aurebesh.

Just joking around of course.

Yeah I was the one who mentioned the whole stretching of the truth with the story.

Anyways, I agree that only Luke knocking the fire back like a baseball and destroying the walker would be funny enough for the children to laugh.

We could keep it at only a second long if we add in the alien saying “Skywalker”. Or the children could mention Skywalker.

TestingOutTheTest said:

When is Darth Vader seen with a TV?

Empire Strikes Back. He chokes the guy through it.

Yeah I think he was trying to make up for the constant discomfort he experiences due to missing limbs and 3rd degree burns.

Joking aside, I always thought it was strange how Darth Vader was the only character with a TV. Everyone else uses holograms.

Movies Remastered said:

This is around 8 hours of work so far on the Puppet removal. It’s really tricky to get the pattern of the material looking like it hasn’t been clone stamped and mimicking the wind blowing in the background. It’s probably going to take another 10 mask layers to get right…

https://youtu.be/qqyof6r0iqg

MR, your efforts are much appreciated. Thank you. I’m sure you’ll get there eventually.

At least the clip is only a second or so long, otherwise we would be in a real pickle right now.

RogueLeader said:

I know Chase said he could film it, but I think I could make the puppets and film this too, if someone could just make a clean plate to put it on.

MR is working on that but he said he is having a few technical difficulties. His post is somewhere above.

TestingOutTheTest said:

So you guys are apparently discussing an idea of Rey turning to see the children watching a puppet show of Luke’s actions in TLJ; I disagree with this. Why, you may ask?

The point of the scene with the Aki Aki children is to establish the stakes for the movie, to drive home our connection with the galaxy (especially in the context of this film alone) and show what the heroes are really fighting for; reducing it to a payoff of the events of TLJ undermines that.

My man, it seems like you enjoy TROS as-is the most. If I had to take a guess, there are already a bunch of different things in the current changelog that you disagree with. Have you ever considered that perhaps the best version of TROS for you is the original? Ok, maybe that’s taking it a bit far. But that’s just the impression I’ve been getting from you lately.

Everybody else here thinks the Luke puppet show is thematically extremely important (y’know, given that the title is “The Rise of Skywalker”). It’s alright to have your own opinion, but if you disagree with this change there is always v1 of this edit as well.

Hal 9000 said:

I imagine the Luke figure batting fire toward the walker would be the best bet for about a second of footage followed by laughter. If Luke vanished without reappearing it may seem like the children are laughing at the defeat of this traitorous Jedi figure.

I definitely like that idea as well. For the “disappearing act” perhaps have him reappear after the laser/fire has been dodged?

Your idea is probably the easiest to execute, though.

Icecream2448 said:

I really really love this puppet idea, so so much… but please do not cut the closeup of that cute little laughing alien baby, whatever you do!!!

Agreed. Now that I have thought about it for a while, maybe it would be best to simply have the Luke puppet vanish/go below. Perhaps he dodges the fire/laser by doing that. I feel like that could fit into 2 seconds.

Back to the topic at hand, if somebody thinks their voice sounds enough like the alien narrating the puppet scene then it would be nice to have the word “Skywalker” slipped into his sentence. Or we could just redub him (might be hard to mimic their language though).

Alternatively, we could have the kids scream or chant “Skywalker”. Don’t know where we could get that audio though.

Well, hindsight is 20/20 as they say. And I don’t work well under pressure either, which I’m sure they had a lot of with time constraints.

Hal 9000 said:

JEDIT: Aaaaaand, what does a cute little alien ask Rey right after this?

I had this exact same thought Hal. It really enhances the ending of the movie. She sees Luke at this point in the movie via puppet show, is asked her last name, and says she doesn’t have one since she doesn’t feel worthy enough yet. She sees Luke at the end of the movie, is asked her last name, and takes the name of Skywalker after everything she’s been through.

How did JJ and Terrio not realize the potential here?

Lmao, I just realized another reason why putting this scene in would help our edit. We are currently given no real reason as to why there was a random stormtrooper in the middle of the celebration since we pushed Kylo discovering their location forward. It’s possible that somebody called in the First Order because that person witnessed Luke’s story being told by the locals. Perhaps there is a reward for giving the First Order intel on any Resistance sympathizers. It ties in nicely with our new crawl, too.

Chase Adams said:

Movies Remastered said:

That sounds great! I’ve got a bunch of scenes I’m already working on but I could maybe try to make a clean plate for you if you wanna take the first run at it?

I would love it if a clean plate could be made, that’s a good starting point.

And yeah, feel free to go crazy with what the puppets do which makes the children laugh. Like I said, the details of Luke’s last stand are probably being told nothing like what actually happened due to the game of interplanetary telephone that has been happening over a year with it. People exaggerate details over time when telling stories, particularly for children.

I wish I could help, but like I said previously it would take a lot of effort for me to simply put the static image in lol.