Yeah I think he was trying to make up for the constant discomfort he experiences due to missing limbs and 3rd degree burns.
Joking aside, I always thought it was strange how Darth Vader was the only character with a TV. Everyone else uses holograms.
This is around 8 hours of work so far on the Puppet removal. It’s really tricky to get the pattern of the material looking like it hasn’t been clone stamped and mimicking the wind blowing in the background. It’s probably going to take another 10 mask layers to get right…
MR, your efforts are much appreciated. Thank you. I’m sure you’ll get there eventually.
At least the clip is only a second or so long, otherwise we would be in a real pickle right now.
I know Chase said he could film it, but I think I could make the puppets and film this too, if someone could just make a clean plate to put it on.
MR is working on that but he said he is having a few technical difficulties. His post is somewhere above.
So you guys are apparently discussing an idea of Rey turning to see the children watching a puppet show of Luke’s actions in TLJ; I disagree with this. Why, you may ask?
The point of the scene with the Aki Aki children is to establish the stakes for the movie, to drive home our connection with the galaxy (especially in the context of this film alone) and show what the heroes are really fighting for; reducing it to a payoff of the events of TLJ undermines that.
My man, it seems like you enjoy TROS as-is the most. If I had to take a guess, there are already a bunch of different things in the current changelog that you disagree with. Have you ever considered that perhaps the best version of TROS for you is the original? Ok, maybe that’s taking it a bit far. But that’s just the impression I’ve been getting from you lately.
Everybody else here thinks the Luke puppet show is thematically extremely important (y’know, given that the title is “The Rise of Skywalker”). It’s alright to have your own opinion, but if you disagree with this change there is always v1 of this edit as well.
I imagine the Luke figure batting fire toward the walker would be the best bet for about a second of footage followed by laughter. If Luke vanished without reappearing it may seem like the children are laughing at the defeat of this traitorous Jedi figure.
I definitely like that idea as well. For the “disappearing act” perhaps have him reappear after the laser/fire has been dodged?
Your idea is probably the easiest to execute, though.
I really really love this puppet idea, so so much… but please do not cut the closeup of that cute little laughing alien baby, whatever you do!!!
Agreed. Now that I have thought about it for a while, maybe it would be best to simply have the Luke puppet vanish/go below. Perhaps he dodges the fire/laser by doing that. I feel like that could fit into 2 seconds.
Back to the topic at hand, if somebody thinks their voice sounds enough like the alien narrating the puppet scene then it would be nice to have the word “Skywalker” slipped into his sentence. Or we could just redub him (might be hard to mimic their language though).
Alternatively, we could have the kids scream or chant “Skywalker”. Don’t know where we could get that audio though.
Well, hindsight is 20/20 as they say. And I don’t work well under pressure either, which I’m sure they had a lot of with time constraints.
JEDIT: Aaaaaand, what does a cute little alien ask Rey right after this?
I had this exact same thought Hal. It really enhances the ending of the movie. She sees Luke at this point in the movie via puppet show, is asked her last name, and says she doesn’t have one since she doesn’t feel worthy enough yet. She sees Luke at the end of the movie, is asked her last name, and takes the name of Skywalker after everything she’s been through.
How did JJ and Terrio not realize the potential here?
Lmao, I just realized another reason why putting this scene in would help our edit. We are currently given no real reason as to why there was a random stormtrooper in the middle of the celebration since we pushed Kylo discovering their location forward. It’s possible that somebody called in the First Order because that person witnessed Luke’s story being told by the locals. Perhaps there is a reward for giving the First Order intel on any Resistance sympathizers. It ties in nicely with our new crawl, too.
That sounds great! I’ve got a bunch of scenes I’m already working on but I could maybe try to make a clean plate for you if you wanna take the first run at it?
I would love it if a clean plate could be made, that’s a good starting point.
And yeah, feel free to go crazy with what the puppets do which makes the children laugh. Like I said, the details of Luke’s last stand are probably being told nothing like what actually happened due to the game of interplanetary telephone that has been happening over a year with it. People exaggerate details over time when telling stories, particularly for children.
I wish I could help, but like I said previously it would take a lot of effort for me to simply put the static image in lol.
Cinefy has been online today. Maybe he remembers where he got those images from?
It might be good to have Luke and the walker falling which would explain why the kids are laughing.
Yeah, honestly I would appreciate it if Luke’s story has been like a game of intergalactic telephone: the details are getting more and more extreme as it passes from one party to another. Maybe he could send the fire right back at the walker.
Well I personally doubt these aliens would know the difference between the new gorilla walkers and the walkers of the past. When stories like these travel, some of the details like that might be lost.
Well that was quicker than I expected.
So, I’m no expert, but I believe if you cut out just the puppet display and put it over the video it would mostly work, right? Besides adjusting for the wind I believe.
Well, guess I’ll have to allocate some time in the near future to go digging here. If I find out afterwards that it’s in a completely different thread I may go crazy. Just saying.
I legitimately remember seeing the image and people commenting on how cool it looks. So I know it’s somewhere on this site.
If I find it, I’ll probably start looking at some internet tutorials on how to implement an image seamlessly into video. Because I agree that it would really be the capstone of this edit.
Was it in this thread that somebody shared a picture of what it should look like? Or am I just imagining that somebody did that to begin with (I’m fairly certain I remember seeing this though).
True. Thank you brother.
Well like I said, nothing in particular has to happen exactly. Maybe a laser bolt hitting him but then nothing happens to the Luke figurine. Cue alien children laughing.
As for the clarity of it being Luke, if you were watching the movies back to back you’d know what it’s referring to. Especially since the previous movie ends with the exact same scene being illustrated with toys.
So apparently the festival on Pasaana is all about “honoring the past and looking forward to the future” according to Wookiepedia. All the more reason why Luke’s final stand would be a fitting inclusion.
The camera only shows the puppet show for a split second, and I’m pretty sure somebody on here already created a fitting image of it. If I could get ahold of the image I’d try to insert it into the video (while still allowing movement all around the puppets)
It wouldn’t necessarily have to be done through VFX. If somebody could create real life props and record them in front of a green screen, I’m pretty sure it could be inserted into the film.
Thing is… I’m in no way artsy enough for that.
Brewzter, that idea is exactly why I wish we could have Luke’s standoff replace the puppet show on Pasaana. I don’t care if it was their cultural holiday, I still feel that it would have been amazing to show it there again.
I feel that was one of the main messages of TLJ, yes. He is the spark that lights the fire that burns the First Order down.
Looking great! It is a subtly different effect from Kylo’s but that’s perfect. Pretty sure his cracked because he failed to properly make his crystal bleed. Rey’s, on the other hand, was completely ripped in two.
