Jar Jar Bricks

TestingOutTheTest said:

So you guys are apparently discussing an idea of Rey turning to see the children watching a puppet show of Luke’s actions in TLJ; I disagree with this. Why, you may ask?

The point of the scene with the Aki Aki children is to establish the stakes for the movie, to drive home our connection with the galaxy (especially in the context of this film alone) and show what the heroes are really fighting for; reducing it to a payoff of the events of TLJ undermines that.

My man, it seems like you enjoy TROS as-is the most. If I had to take a guess, there are already a bunch of different things in the current changelog that you disagree with. Have you ever considered that perhaps the best version of TROS for you is the original? Ok, maybe that’s taking it a bit far. But that’s just the impression I’ve been getting from you lately.

Everybody else here thinks the Luke puppet show is thematically extremely important (y’know, given that the title is “The Rise of Skywalker”). It’s alright to have your own opinion, but if you disagree with this change there is always v1 of this edit as well.

Hal 9000 said:

I imagine the Luke figure batting fire toward the walker would be the best bet for about a second of footage followed by laughter. If Luke vanished without reappearing it may seem like the children are laughing at the defeat of this traitorous Jedi figure.

I definitely like that idea as well. For the “disappearing act” perhaps have him reappear after the laser/fire has been dodged?

Your idea is probably the easiest to execute, though.

Icecream2448 said:

I really really love this puppet idea, so so much… but please do not cut the closeup of that cute little laughing alien baby, whatever you do!!!

Agreed. Now that I have thought about it for a while, maybe it would be best to simply have the Luke puppet vanish/go below. Perhaps he dodges the fire/laser by doing that. I feel like that could fit into 2 seconds.

Back to the topic at hand, if somebody thinks their voice sounds enough like the alien narrating the puppet scene then it would be nice to have the word “Skywalker” slipped into his sentence. Or we could just redub him (might be hard to mimic their language though).

Alternatively, we could have the kids scream or chant “Skywalker”. Don’t know where we could get that audio though.

Well, hindsight is 20/20 as they say. And I don’t work well under pressure either, which I’m sure they had a lot of with time constraints.

Hal 9000 said:

JEDIT: Aaaaaand, what does a cute little alien ask Rey right after this?

I had this exact same thought Hal. It really enhances the ending of the movie. She sees Luke at this point in the movie via puppet show, is asked her last name, and says she doesn’t have one since she doesn’t feel worthy enough yet. She sees Luke at the end of the movie, is asked her last name, and takes the name of Skywalker after everything she’s been through.

How did JJ and Terrio not realize the potential here?

Lmao, I just realized another reason why putting this scene in would help our edit. We are currently given no real reason as to why there was a random stormtrooper in the middle of the celebration since we pushed Kylo discovering their location forward. It’s possible that somebody called in the First Order because that person witnessed Luke’s story being told by the locals. Perhaps there is a reward for giving the First Order intel on any Resistance sympathizers. It ties in nicely with our new crawl, too.

Chase Adams said:

Movies Remastered said:

That sounds great! I’ve got a bunch of scenes I’m already working on but I could maybe try to make a clean plate for you if you wanna take the first run at it?

I would love it if a clean plate could be made, that’s a good starting point.

And yeah, feel free to go crazy with what the puppets do which makes the children laugh. Like I said, the details of Luke’s last stand are probably being told nothing like what actually happened due to the game of interplanetary telephone that has been happening over a year with it. People exaggerate details over time when telling stories, particularly for children.

I wish I could help, but like I said previously it would take a lot of effort for me to simply put the static image in lol.

Cinefy has been online today. Maybe he remembers where he got those images from?

DZ-330 said:

It might be good to have Luke and the walker falling which would explain why the kids are laughing.

Yeah, honestly I would appreciate it if Luke’s story has been like a game of intergalactic telephone: the details are getting more and more extreme as it passes from one party to another. Maybe he could send the fire right back at the walker.

Well I personally doubt these aliens would know the difference between the new gorilla walkers and the walkers of the past. When stories like these travel, some of the details like that might be lost.

DZ-330 said:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/501825149469851659/797505846547316797/PicsArt_01-09-05.43.16.jpg?width=1424&height=590

Well that was quicker than I expected.

So, I’m no expert, but I believe if you cut out just the puppet display and put it over the video it would mostly work, right? Besides adjusting for the wind I believe.

Well, guess I’ll have to allocate some time in the near future to go digging here. If I find out afterwards that it’s in a completely different thread I may go crazy. Just saying.

I legitimately remember seeing the image and people commenting on how cool it looks. So I know it’s somewhere on this site.

If I find it, I’ll probably start looking at some internet tutorials on how to implement an image seamlessly into video. Because I agree that it would really be the capstone of this edit.

Was it in this thread that somebody shared a picture of what it should look like? Or am I just imagining that somebody did that to begin with (I’m fairly certain I remember seeing this though).

True. Thank you brother.

Well like I said, nothing in particular has to happen exactly. Maybe a laser bolt hitting him but then nothing happens to the Luke figurine. Cue alien children laughing.

As for the clarity of it being Luke, if you were watching the movies back to back you’d know what it’s referring to. Especially since the previous movie ends with the exact same scene being illustrated with toys.

So apparently the festival on Pasaana is all about “honoring the past and looking forward to the future” according to Wookiepedia. All the more reason why Luke’s final stand would be a fitting inclusion.

The camera only shows the puppet show for a split second, and I’m pretty sure somebody on here already created a fitting image of it. If I could get ahold of the image I’d try to insert it into the video (while still allowing movement all around the puppets)

It wouldn’t necessarily have to be done through VFX. If somebody could create real life props and record them in front of a green screen, I’m pretty sure it could be inserted into the film.

Thing is… I’m in no way artsy enough for that.

Brewzter, that idea is exactly why I wish we could have Luke’s standoff replace the puppet show on Pasaana. I don’t care if it was their cultural holiday, I still feel that it would have been amazing to show it there again.

I feel that was one of the main messages of TLJ, yes. He is the spark that lights the fire that burns the First Order down.

Looking great! It is a subtly different effect from Kylo’s but that’s perfect. Pretty sure his cracked because he failed to properly make his crystal bleed. Rey’s, on the other hand, was completely ripped in two.

Hal 9000 said:

Hey, that’s a cool idea! I think it would be just a little muddy to have the First Order seeming to invade the galaxy all at once while Palpatine’s announcement goes out. Seems like they’d already have done that well before this point.

I don’t think I’ll go for it for this project, but it’s certainly cool!

My thoughts exactly Hal.

And MR says in the video that he doesn’t understand why the rest of the galaxy came to help in the end without them invading like that. But since we have the “For Skywalker” sounds, I think we’ve already given enough of a reason.

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, while a little confusing on first viewing, those are supposed to be First Order Destroyers, as the ‘Final Order’ fleet was still relegated to Exegol. Except for one ship that just left on its own to blow up Kijimi.

Is there footage of this idea? First I’ve heard of it.

Yes there is. Here is MR’s video. It’s one of the first things he shows. Looks like his clip would work as it is (minus some finishing touches), as they are First Order.

https://youtu.be/wWy5RtoQMMc

Although, it’s worth noting that he is playing Palpatine’s message over all of this. I know we only played a small portion of it. And, personally, I’m only interesting in the arrival to Coruscant.

Yes, but we’re talking about having these Star Destroyers showing up earlier in the film and arriving at their actual planets, possibly even with Kylo on board one of them (at least that is what I’ve seen MR do). At that point, they would most certainly have to be First Order in nature.

Movies Remastered said:

but I’ve had a lot of complaints from people saying I’ve used the wrong ships. If anyone knows of any better footage of Palps fleet then please let me know…

Pretty sure if we’re going to use those shots then Hal (and myself) would actually want them to be First Order Star Destroyers, not Palpy’s. A part of the reason for removing Kijimi’s destruction is that it makes no sense that an individual Final Order Star Destroyer was able to take off without the rest so effortlessly.

Furthermore, Palpatine tells Kylo he will only receive his ships once he does as he asks (“Kill the girl”). So why would he give the First Order access to some of his ships immediately after saying that? Doesn’t make much sense.