Jar Jar Bricks

It’s important to clarify that I’m not trying to be rude when I say the following. I think your work is really well done, Nev.

But why should we delete portions of the film in order to keep this cosmetic change? It looks like Luke’s “You have everything you need” would have to go so you could create a transition to something else for a while. I’d personally prefer to have content rather than a little less content in a different shade. What do you all think, though?

Again, I think it’s a cool idea but might not be worth it.

Woah. That just sounds absolutely incredible.

I can see why they would delete it if they considered it too dark and make it unbelievable for him to turn back to the light.

But still… I would pay good money to get my hands on deleted TROS scenes.

Haha I’m not the only one then, Hal.

dgraham414 said:

The constant change of the lighting on Act-to just doesn’t make sense… It starts out as dusk and slowly darkens, but then all of a sudden it is the dawn? What happened to the night? I think to change the lighting like that would only work if something was inserted to delineate the passage of time like a cut away to the Resistance base or a shot of Rey sleeping (?).

+1

Hal 9000 said:

I could see how doable this would be. Hard to say without trying it. I know there’s a bit more footage there and a loop of music that could be reinstated if it happened to be timed right. Idk. (And hey, feel free to let me do this, once I can. I feel like I haven’t really done anything in a while. Lol)

Sounds good. TestingTheTest’s first time posting his opinion on removing the Leia thing actually got me thinking about how that part could possibly be reinstated (minus her actually knowing).

So thank you Testing.

Just trying to make sure my work isn’t being “buried” by people talking about nonessential things. If you want to talk more then DM me please.

Hey, if we’re not allowed to have valuable (albeit long) conversations about the overall plotline of this movie/trilogy, could we also stop clogging up the feed with jokes? I feel that’s only fair.

TestingOutTheTest said:

Removed talk about Leia (and possibly Luke, depending on one’s interpretation of the scene) having known about Rey being a Palpatine. In this version, Luke essentially tells Rey, “So what if you’re a Palpatine?” It also seems to make a great deal more sense to assume they did not know this during the events of TFA and TLJ, with Luke learning this postmortem.

I disagree with this. The point of the thing with Leia is for Luke to show to Rey that just because she’s a Palpatine doesn’t mean others inherently hate her for her lineage; it’s part of her arc of overcoming her toxic core belief that she is worthless, she’s developed that core belief during her time on Jakku after she was abandoned.

First off, you’ve already posted this before.

Second, see my previous comment here. I’m trying to fix this issue by adding back in Luke saying “Your spirit. Your heart”. This would make it much more clear that she needs to be focusing on those more than her lineage, which is exactly what you are arguing. By adding the line back in, Luke is basically saying that others see her for her spirit and heart, and she should do the same. We just leave out the whole Leia always having known bit because that’s just ridiculous.

Alright, here I am again with one of my daily ideas for your edit, Hal.

Luke currently says the following:
“Because you’re a Palpatine. Rey, some things are stronger than blood…”

My problem with that is he never specifies what is “stronger than blood”. Sure, maybe his message speaks for itself, but I am proposing the following:
“Because you’re a Palpatine. Your spirit, your heart. Rey, some things are stronger than blood…”

You can take that snippet from his currently removed line concerning Leia. Here is what I’m talking about:

https://youtu.be/FMrBM60qO7Q

Once again, don’t mind the music overlap/audio confusion. It wouldn’t be like that in final.

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s a full mockup of the Ach-To sequence, featuring a regrade by NeverArGreat:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UpnKp8-35PMwuWDXiv2ZjIvsZ93y0BE0/view?usp=sharing

I agree with everyone else that the nighttime and morning regrades look fantastic. Not sold on the evening, though.

Also, I find it somewhat hard to believe that Rey and Luke would be talking ALL night long. Of course, Ahch-To could have a shorter day/night cycle if we wanted to. But the impression for the average viewer is that she was there for about 10 hours. Meh.

Is it possible that when she is burning the Falcon it is night? That would not only make the timing make more sense, but also remove the evening regrade that doesn’t look as good.

Hal 9000 said:

• It’s hard to get myself to care about a discrepancy between the lights being off in the main shot and on in the distant shot. No one would ever notice that.

That was my thought initially Hal (mostly because I didn’t even notice they were on in the distant shot until now).

But if we want to be perfectionists here, it definitely wouldn’t hurt 😉

Movies Remastered said:

@Burbin I forgot to bring it up a way back, but didn’t MR’s shot of Vader’s Fortress in the background still have the ‘lights’ on? I couldn’t even tell but if it does I’m sure it’ll be an easy fix for this cut. I’m personally leaving them on to show the Mustafarians still using it. Didn’t it use to be a monastery or something?

So yeah the lights ARE still on in this shot but it’s very hard to tell. I’d imagine this would be much easier to fix than the much closer shot. It’s just a bunch of pixels after all.

And we are using the lights out larger shot, so this would be a good idea.

If I were to try to work on it, I would have to go frame by frame to edit it in like paint or something. So hopefully somebody else knows how to do it better lol.

From what I recall, that shot didn’t need that adjustment. But I could be wrong.

It was never worked on, if that’s what you’re asking.

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, we really had to comb the desert with this one.

And yes Burbin I asked that question above and he did include it.

Hal 9000 said:

We already are using that same shot for the vision sequence. Also it seems to muddy the logic of what’s happening. Eh, I don’t think so on that one. But thanks for mocking it up.

Oh really? That’s cool. If I had known that I wouldn’t have done this to begin with lol.

Guess I need to rewatch the vision sequence. I don’t remember seeing it at all. Do you have the timestamp from the movie?

EDIT: Oh damn, you right. Never noticed that. Thank you for telling me. If you haven’t been able to tell by now, I’m currently going through every single piece of content that accompanied this movie to see if it can be put in LMAO.

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

That’s an interesting idea, Jar Jar!

One minor thing though: Rey gasps before Kylo speaks. Shouldn’t she gasp after he startles her?

That is actually her repeating “No” because she is hearing her younger self saying it. I would actually want to remove that.

I have an idea suggestion + a concept of it. There is a shot of Kylo in a surrounding that looks like his chambers on his Star Destroyer in the documentary. If you place it at the beginning of the mind link scene with Rey touching the dagger in his chambers, it makes it look like Kylo is right behind her… only to reveal that he isn’t. And then later on the fight, it appears they are fighting in his quarters while Kylo isn’t actually there, and that they are fighting on Kijimi’s surface while Rey isn’t actually there. So it all makes sense.

It’s a subtle change, but I feel it adds to the intensity of the “jumpscare”, if you will 😃

https://youtu.be/mZZtmKSKhqc

Important clarification: This change is inspired by Fixing Disney Star Wars.

Also, there is a slight audio pop there but that’s just because my editing software is bad. That wouldn’t be there in the final product.

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

NeverarGreat said:

Hey, I’m all for someone removing the timecodes and attempting to include the Falcon deleted scene in this movie…for totally selfless reasons of course 😉

Slightly off-topic but has anyone been able to successfully remove the time code from it? Or even from the rest of the TFA deleted scenes for that matter?

I do really love the Kylo Falcon scene and that was a deleted scene I couldn’t understand why it got deleted. However, I do think it would fit better in an edit of TFA rather than this TROS edit.

I remember somebody was able to make it partially disappear. Like, if you weren’t looking at the corner of the screen you wouldn’t notice it was there but you would if you did.

I had it downloaded at one point, but lost it and don’t remember where I got it from on this forum since.

EDIT: Thanks Nev. That is also one way of still using the scene.

Hal 9000 said:

• Add 21C Peasant’s and Movies Remastered’s Vader Castle to the opening Mustafar sequence ✅

Question: Is this with the darkened windows or is it still the lit ones? If not, why didn’t we end up using the darkened ones? And yes, this darkening was finished if I recall correctly.

I would be doing it in private, but I’m not going to let him take public jabs at me twice in this forum today without at least acknowledging it publicly as well:

Movies Remastered said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I ask that because Poppa’s wonderful work was buried in our previous discussion so it was likely whoever was willing to do it didn’t notice it was finished.

Dude, I understand your excitement but chill out! You seem to be dominating this thread lately, no wonder things are getting lost.

Movies Remastered said:

Or maybe just come up with some ideas that you can execute yourself to actually help lighten the load on others?

I’ll be quiet now. If he wants to talk to me we can just message each other.

Also, In case you didn’t know, MR, I have contributed to this project in the past. It was my idea to remove Palpatine’s “for my grandchild to come home”. I did a mockup of that change that proved helpful to Hal.

Are we not allowed to discuss fun ideas in here? I never said that you specifically need to work on such an idea. In fact, I didn’t say anybody needed to do that. I was only speaking about in theory what somebody would have to do in order to make that deleted scene work for this movie.

Movies Remastered said:

Or maybe just come up with some ideas that you can execute yourself to actually help lighten the load on others?

Alright, that’s it MR. I’ve been detecting some SERIOUS shade from you recently. I apologized so this wouldn’t happen. I thought you said we were good? Were you being disingenuous? Or did something happen since then?

Would really like to know. Thanks.

sherlockpotter said:

Well I don’t know how to do that, Jar. Jar. Sheesh!

Just know for future reference that when I use the word “you” I’m sometimes not referring to the actual person I’m messaging. I just use that word sometimes as a replacement for “somebody”. Should probably get out of that habit to avoid misunderstandings like that lol.

sherlockpotter said:

With or without the dice, like I said, “remastering” the deleted scene to be TROS-compatible is beyond my skill set, but I’d love to help how I can!

I’d imagine all you would really need to do is add some glowing red cracks to his helmet, as well as change the snowy exterior in the Falcon’s cockpit to something like a First Order hanger bay. Would be a really cool scene to include imo.

Of course, there would be a couple of problems that likely couldn’t be solved:

1. Kylo’s TFA outfit is slightly different than his TROS one. Also, he isn’t seen anywhere else in TROS with his hood up.
2. Why are there snow troopers on the falcon? Of course, you could argue they are there because Kijimi is cold and they are troops from Kijimi. But I’d imagine the troops boarding the falcon would be returning from their mission on Pasaana, not Kijimi.

sherlockpotter said:

I can definitely twiddle with it more though, and see if I can make it any tighter.

Try to “twiddle” with creation’s version of it. Or have you seen that yet? Here it is if you haven’t:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VBMI4WJAO3izMPu8L5a-r3D4Pk0X16BR?usp=sharing