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Did anybody ever suggest putting a shortened version flashback of Rey’s parents leaving her on Jakku right before she screams and unleashes her lightning on the transport? Along with child Rey screaming “No!”, of course. This could honestly work well for either version of your edit, for a few different reasons:

1. Chewbacca, a person she loves, is being taken away from her on a ship while she stands helpless below on a desert planet’s surface.
2. The ship that Rey knows her parents were on is literally right next to her, so of course this trauma would be on her mind in that moment. I guess this doesn’t apply to the nobody edit, though.

In the context of standard Ascendant, I do think that this movie could have delved a bit more into Rey’s feelings of inadequacy and trauma before it’s eventually revealed that her parents were actually good people. Kylo alludes to it in their first conversation in the film, after all. In the end, you’re simply replacing one dark line of thought (fear of losing those you love) with another (seeking vengeance against Palpatine for taking those she loves).

That was quick! Thanks.

Just watched the “max” version. Good stuff! AI lines worked better than I could have hoped.

A couple things:

1. The deleted scene where Sebulba flashes his vents has an issue with the black bars from the aspect ratio. They appear white, which makes the whole sequence kinda stick out like a sore thumb.
2. The audio transition from the droidekas back to the control room (where you removed Force speed) is a little rough. I’m not sure if there’s a better way to do this, though. The visual pacing is fine, it’s just the audio for a second.

Thanks for making these versions!

I’d be okay to do that this weekend. That’s definitely the only part that really needs to be changed IMO in order for Andor as a show to make sense.

I think all the edits that are putting in Andor music and flashbacks are cool and all but Rogue One already has a great score. Plus, I doubt a younger audience would be able to sit still through that show (and some of it isn’t age appropriate). So Rogue One should definitely be able to stand on its own, which your edit will do since it’s still mostly the original movie.

O00ll00O said:

Trying again now.

Thanks Hal, works now.

I watched the change you made with headphones on. I love the idea of this dialogue change, but personally it sounds a little jarring to me. The music cuts weird and the voice sounds closer to JEJ than Vader.

This is a limitation of ElevenLabs voice cloning, likely because they are trying to emulate human speech perfectly, not characterized speech.

The dialogue I made for Zorri in Ascendant is also identical to the actor’s voice but is missing the voice filter. I have the same issue with my Threepio voice clone not having the robotic sound effect. Fortunately, I was able to figure out how to replicate Threepio’s effect quite easily on Audacity. For Vader and Zorri I’m not even sure where to begin.

Once again, if anybody out there knows how to do those character’s voice sound effects that would be awesome!

Honestly, that sounds great to me! If it was the whole sequence I would definitely question its inclusion. But the underwater city itself looks so cool that I think it’s worth the slight hit to the pacing. Also makes the Gungan army a bit less of a Deus Ex Machina at the end.

Remind me, is it the whole underwater sequence that’s included, or do they just get the ride and then we cut back to Theed?

Does anybody recall who did the voices for the Knights of Ren? I’m interested in replacing their dialogue at the end for my edit:

“Palpatine offered us a better deal.”

“He is the Ren now.”

With it recently being revealed that Quimir and Osha go on to form the Knights of Ren, I think it’s important to keep them distinct from the Sith. Technically, Ben coming back to the light shouldn’t necessarily make them renounce their loyalty to him, as their plan in this edit was always just to kill Palpatine together. Them calling Ben a “traitor” doesn’t make sense when that plan never changed. The only way to explain why they’d attack him and serve the Sith is if they are traitors themselves.

Hal 9000 said:

And yes, the midchlorian explanation is there for the Max version. If midichlorians are to be included, they’ve got to be established as symbionts in order to dovetail with the Gungan-Naboo aspect to form a theme.

That’s fair. I like Qui-Gon in that scene but it’s definitely one of little Ani’s worst is all lol.

So does that include the midichlorians explanation scene on Coruscant or just the blood test? Because I feel like the concept of midichlorians is quite self explanatory without going into the whole “symbionts” weirdness way later on in the movie.

But yeah either way these changes look epic. Thanks Hal. Excited to watch this weekend.

Admittedly, I do think his death was mishandled in the original TROS. So yeah, I kinda understand why Adam Driver wanted him to continue on.

But with this edit his death lands quite nicely, between his mother calling him “home” and then being with his family as Rey buries the sabers at the homestead. I just wish this was how it released originally. Apparently Adam Driver is interested in continuing to play the character though, which is really interesting to me. If we ever get a live action series when he was a Jedi I hope he’d be willing to play him again. Or just be his voice in an animated project like The Clone Wars that helps set up the sequels better.

If the fanbase somehow comes together to force Disney to make the Ben Solo movie, I’d assume that we’d need to remove his ghost from this edit. That project was probably written to explain his absence away. Perhaps the dyad tethers him to life somehow, and Rey is like a horcrux lol.

Yeah, ElevenLabs is a bit of a rabbit hole once you start down it lol. Some personal experience there.

Sounds awesome! I’m excited to give it a watch.

It’s kind of like if Qui-Gon never tried to use the mind-trick on Watto. You have this power introduced earlier in the film with him successfully mind-tricking Boss Nass, and so thankfully somebody realized that you needed to explain why that wouldn’t work a second time to just free Anakin and repair the ship. Granted, the explanation given was shitty, since all Watto needed to say was “I am not a weak-minded fool” instead of “I’m a Toydarian”.

But yeah, when you introduce something like this, it feels like a Chekov’s gun that never gets resolved or explained away.

Man, that works so well it’s crazy.

You could try lowering the pitch on the line. The AI does have a habit of making him a bit too effeminate lol

Threepio lines to cap off his new backstory of having been a navigator before being dumped on Tatooine.

I just sent Hal a few AI line options for 3 the other day!

losthead said:

NeverarGreat said:

I was just thinking about this movie again for some reason and had some ideas.

One of the biggest issues with the structure of the film IMO is that Rey goes to Palpatine after getting a pep-talk with Luke. Before this meeting, Rey feels like she’s on a dark path, but after this there’s no chance that she will take Palpatine up on any offer. Now, I’d already considered just deleting the Luke ghost meeting since it’s so worthless and actively deflates the stakes, but that would have resulted in too many continuity problems. So what if instead of Rey going to meet Luke, it is Kylo?

Imagine: After Kylo has his talk with Han and throws away his lightsaber, he takes an advanced TIE Interceptor from the Death Star wreckage to Luke’s island, where he intends to stay and atone for his sins in isolation. He burns his ship and stands there before it. Just use Rey standing in front of the burning ship and replace it with an image of Kylo from behind. Then we can have Luke’s voice appear to him, saying ‘Ben.’ Then Ben can say ‘She’s gone.’

Cut to Poe beside Leia’s bed wondering how she was able to win, and Lando telling him that they had each other.

The music of that scene segues into a scene in Luke’s hut, where Ben pulls the rock out of the wall and reveals Leia’s saber. Luke tells him about his mother and how she believed that someone would complete her journey. Ben, off screen, says how he’s not worthy to wield it, and that he doesn’t have what it takes. Luke replies that he has everything he needs.

We next combine the scenes of D-O and of R2 getting a strange message from an old X-wing. Finn and Poe assume that this is Rey leading them to Exegol, but in fact it’s Ben in the X-wing.

Cut any shot of Rey in the X-wing, replacing them with shots of Kylo’s TIE fighter from the first scenes of the film when necessary. Rey arrives believing herself unworthy of the mission, ready only to take her revenge on Palpatine.

Palpatine says that Rey wants to kill him, and asks her ‘As a Jedi?’ She says yes, and he says 'No…your hatred…your anger…you want to kill me." And then in his mind, he continues “…That is what I want.” This unspoken thought echoes in Ben’s head as he races into the temple. Palpatine says to Rey “Kill me…” Then to Ben: “…and my spirit will pass into her. As all the Sith live in me…” then to Rey: “You will be Empress…” and then Ben hears in his head “…we will be one.”

Then later, to Rey, he says: “She will strike me down…” Then to Ben “…and pledge herself as a Sith.”

Palpatine is doing this gloating as a way of telling Ben that he has won, thinking that there is nothing Ben can do to stop him. But he doesn’t reckon with Ben and Rey’s connection in the Force.

In the scene where Ben fights the Knights of Ren, we see in one shot that he has Leia’s lightsaber on his belt but he doesn’t use it. He refuses to use Leia’s weapon, still believing that he is unworthy of it. Then he connects with Rey and together they agree to swap sabers. Rey drops Luke’s saber behind her back and Ben pulls it across space like in the film, then we see Leia’s saber already in Rey’s hand as she fights off the guards.

Then when Rey leaves Exegol at the end of the film, she’s in Luke’s X-wing for the first time.

Anyway, that’s quite a bit of work, but considering what we’re able to accomplish these days with editing, I don’t think it’s an impossible task by any means.

Apologies for the resurrection, I’ve been catching up on this thread so I wanted to add onto this.

This is a really cool idea for a scene. I just love the visual of Ben standing in front of the burning TIE fighter on Ach-To, and getting to speak with Luke. I’d really like to attempt this, I think it would be feasible with enough work.

One thing, though. How would Ben know where Ach-To is? He never discovered it in TLJ.

Technically, he did. Rey tells Snoke “everything”, it just happens offscreen. So assumably she tells him how to get there, because Snoke says that he will go there and destroy the whole island.

I mean, perhaps there was an issue with certain members here getting flooded by PMs from robots, but it seems like this has started happening more frequently ever since a 1 week wait period was placed on new accounts before they can PM. Giving my two cents, I would humbly suggest that go away. Or at the very least be reduced to a single 24 hour period.

Do you mean the part where she’s looking up into the stars and the screen is just kinda black? Yeah, it would actually work really well to just have the pathways start fading in there.

I happen to agree with you, RL. I think that since Rey no longer says that she’s “all the Jedi” we don’t need to include everybody in that sequence. I also didn’t really like having the Clone Wars version of Ahsoka in there since we have a live action version of her at both a young and old age where she doesn’t sound like that.

There are enough voices to work with - Anakin, Yoda, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan (both young and old versions), Luke, and Leia. The only trouble is that I already know Yoda was not an easy one to voice clone, but I’ve never personally given him a try. We could put Rosario Dawson Ahsoka in there since she’s already been in contact with Luke before but we just don’t know what her fate is.

Unless somebody wants to sift through all Star Wars media to find relevant lines from Jedi that could be traveling from the past into the present via the WBW.

The novelization implies that the World Between Worlds was somehow involved in the fact that Jedi who hadn’t technically learned how to transcend where able to speak in the finale. A lazy answer, if you ask me, but technically it works.

I believe the novelization also points out that it is actually Leia who encouraged Rey to reach out to past Jedi, since it was something Luke taught her. The Jedi texts weren’t involved because this was an ability discovered by Qui-Gon, and not the Jedi themselves. You point this out with the progression you listed. Yes, Luke could have written about it in the texts but at that point it muddies things since the impression is that the Wayfinders were in the original texts and Luke merely expanded upon or translated what was already written there.

In other words, having a written record of this ability might make things too complicated to follow.

I believe they are one in the same, no?