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#1588499
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The focus should remain on Rey and not get too detailed about Luke. I don’t like him saying “I failed” in the present tense in TROS.

The existing line sets up his point well, in saying it’s what “kept him here” before Luke interrogates Rey’s misguided journey to that location.

I don’t know how to rephrase the existing line to retain the link to the location, lead naturally into a question of Rey’s fear, and change the implication about Luke.

In isolation, it wouldn’t be fair to characterize Luke’s reclusion to the island as due to straightforward fear. But in the context of the whole TROS Ach-To sequence, I don’t have a problem with this line. He’s making a point by picking up on a relevant factor from his own experience that mirrors Rey’s closely enough. Luke didn’t shut himself away due to fearing his raw power, but he did fear Ben’s. And perhaps that (but not only that) is enough to extend this question to her to relate and begin to pull her out of her slump.

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#1588322
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Wow, what a flurry of activity in the last day and a half!

At least what I can tell over phone speaker, those sound pretty good,
JJB. For the flashback, Luke speaks at about the right pace, though he sort of rushes through “chose compassion over hatred.”

Couple quick thoughts to respond to holdups!

I don’t feel a need to tinker with “it was fear that kept me here” as it’s a natural lead-in to the point Luke wants to make. Even if we quibble about TLJ, it’s not untrue that fear was part of the equation for him.

I do not think it works to shoehorn in dialogue during the X-wing scene, so I’m not interested in pursuing that.

As far as “final lesson”… could we perhaps try a few variations on it, to see if it can fit in seamlessly? It’s tricker now that we’re keeping more of the conversation. Maybe “My final lesson, Rey:”?

And once we can get things right, I’d be happy to assemble an entire Ach-To sequence to present.

Thanks so much for all the effort and discussion. As has been the case for this project from the beginning, it would have been dead in the water if it weren’t for you. I can’t dedicate meaningful time to these projects any longer, but want to
make V5 worthy of its finality.

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#1587800
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Okay, I finally found some time to dig into this project a little. Here is the state of the flashback sequence.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VBFPUHnRAGrGfMWsUy5pnSo31u54SY0m/view?usp=drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kDmXzsVWWzbfOoC8DKCLNvfSex2wV3-I/view?usp=sharing

The delivery of “Leia sensed it as she trained you” could be better, and possibly the wording. Rey responds with, “She still trained me,” which sounds a little redundant.

I hate to lose the reference to Padme, but I think it flows better (and lets us get away with the alteration a little more cleanly) without it. 😕

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#1584255
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

For one thing, the scene wouldn’t involve any mention of Kijimi in the way I envision it being cut. It would just be about how Palpatine is threatening the galaxy with a generic threat of destruction if they don’t stand down and Poe is acting general. But then the problem would be how it may be too short of a scene.

What makes you think the AI line wouldn’t work there? Just not enough space?

Oh, like they’re just hearing more Palpatine ranting over the radio? Not sure but I can take a look later and see about it. I don’t think it’s super necessary though.

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#1584219
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The only relevant bit is about two seconds for a character to say, “Leia made you acting general.” I really do not want to re-include the scene because Ascendant has been better not to have had it.

I wish there was more room to maneuver but I wonder about an AI line for Poe as he starts to speak with the deceased Leia. “‘Acting general?’ I gotta tell you, I don’t really know how to do this…”

That almost certainly wouldn’t work effectively. But you do raise a good plot-related concern. If it can be alleviated another way I’m open to that, but not to reinstating the Kijimi sequence.