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#60473
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Episodes 7,8,9?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/60473/action/topic#60473
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Originally posted by: buddy-x-wing
I know Steven Spielberg has spoken out against CGI ever being used to recreate an existing actor either living or dead , although I'm not sure if GL is of the same opinion, but I doubt you could even come close to capturing Harrison Fords performance or personality in the trilogy, the other character's possibly, but it would end up as dull and soulless as the prequal trilogy.



You can read up on GL's opinion here

Oh, and I know this page is a lot of guff but how does this catch you - Episode 7 Pics
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#60472
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Episodes 7,8,9?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/60472/action/topic#60472
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Interesting stuff guys. I don't think I would be happy to see the OT cast done CGI. I do crave to see more stories with the OT cast but I know that's not going to happen.

Do you remember those early PT rumors in the British press saying "Computer generated Guinness to reprise role in new Star Wars film". Ha! I would have personally smacked Lucas round the chops.

UPDATED: "Amazing special effects will allow veteran actor SIR ALEC GUINNESS to appear in the next three movies in GEORGE LUCAS' STAR WARS reprising his role as OBI-WAN KENOBI, but as a young man. Guinness, now 82, won many new fans when he appeared as the guru in the Star Wars in 1977 and its sequel the EMPIRE STRIKES BACK three years later. LUCASFILMS plan to release the three new films annually from 1998. But since they are chronologically, prequels to the original sci-fi series Hollywood's top technicians were drafted in to mastermind the special effect. Using computer imaging technology, the studio will superimpose genuine black-and-white footage of Guinness as a young man with color sequences of him as Kenobi in the earlier films. That image will be transferred to a mask worn by an actor with the same height and build as the young Guinness. Trial footage has already been filmed, with the face applied in post production, and the producers are said to be delighted."
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#60327
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<strong>Star Wars Radio Dramas</strong> - a general discussion thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/60327/action/topic#60327
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I have the one's with "you will know it's time to turn your page, when you hear R2-D2 beep like this" ?

I have the ESB, ROTJ and Ewok Join the Fight one's on tape. Might get round to converting them one day soon. Anyone got "Planet of the Hoojibs" and "Droid Word"? Wasn't there another one too with a shot of Han or Luke riding a small shuttle type ship?

I don't think I have the 'official' Storybook ones on vinyl anymore. From what I can remember though the ESB one included the line "you're lucky to get out of there" (rather than "You're lucky you don't taste very good" from Luke on Dagobah).

J
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#60084
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So Did George Lucas Really Rape Our Childhood?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/60084/action/topic#60084
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It can be difficult to express your own opinion without being shot down on lots of forums. At least people here are mostly realistic.

I for one don't think that GL raped my childhood. I love Star Wars as a film and I loved collecting the toys when I was a kid but I stay realistic. It is only a film and whilst it's a shame that someone I looked up to for many many years has made some bad and contradictory decisions, I am still happy to call myself a Star Wars fan. At the same time I don't think GL owes me anything. I am a consumer of his work. I can at any point choose to accept or refuse what Lucasfilm pumps out.

My deminishing respect for Lucas only helps increase my respect for Kurtz, Kershener and all the people that opposed Lucas to make the OT what it is today (or was 10 years ago). To be brutaly honest I think Star Wars was quite a fluke. Afterall it is incredibly difficult to make sucess after success. Bad decisions are bound to occur at some point. Star Wars was so much about the time at which it was made. The film world is now a totally different place.

I feel that Lucas like many directors has suffered from early successes, leading to them being surrounded by sycophants (both professionals and fans alike). This has lead to a world of no conflict for Lucas, nobody to question his decisions. Just look at TPM documentary with Lucas deciding what should be CG and what shouldn't with his highlighter pens. Why weren't such decisions left to the FX heads is beyond my understanding.

When Lucas shot Star Wars, he had $9 million, a young crew, studio heads breathing down his neck. Yet he managed to make an interesting, innovative film, like nothing seen before. For TPM he had so much more to spend and we are left with a dissappointing, lacklustre cartoon.

I work in TV and whilst pressure is never welcome, I find that I do most of my best work in a pressurised environment. Perhaps Lucas needs to remove the safety of making these films and really push the envelope once again. Preferably with someone who has the balls to answer him back.
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#59306
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Does anyone have this mammoth release!?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59306/action/topic#59306
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Originally posted by: Galahad_Skywalker
None of the documentaries are on the Definitive Collection set, just the interviews, trailers, a few featurettes, still galleries, and the godawful Lapti Nek music video (which I don't even want to attempt to watch). Too bad, really, but I still have my Making of Star Wars mail-in VHS (compliments of Corn Pops), so I can live. I really want to see From Star Wars to Jedi, though.


True. What I meant was apart from the 3 documentaries we all know and love, the supplementals on the Executor box set are pretty much the same as the Definative LD set.
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#59150
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Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59150/action/topic#59150
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Oh, and here's my quick review of 'Balance of the Force'

Balance of the Force

Firstly I am an editor by profession. Secondly I am a huge Star Wars fan. Like many of our generation I was inspired by the Original Trilogy to enter into Film and Television production. You can therefore imagine my excitement to hear that a new cut of The Phantom Menace was doing the rounds. So, I contacted Rikter and promptly received the discs.

Having already seen the Phantom Edit some time ago I was not expecting a particularly slick effort. Whilst the Phantom Edit excised many of the frustrating elements of TPM it was still tantamount to polishing a turd. So I was surprised to see and read that the MagnoliaFan (MF) edit was not only Anamorphic and of fairly decent quality but that some story elements had been cleverly changed.

Happy From The Opening Crawl

I was pleased to see the changes on the opening crawl. If anything they served to remove the complicated (and boring!) back story of TPM and create a more intriguing one with certainly more weight and a darker feel from the off.

The re-dubbing work on the Neimoidians was a great idea and whilst it's clear that some reverse effects had been made on a European language track (German, Austrian?) it was a welcome change from the pseudo Japanese which for me really began to spoil TPM from a very early point when I first watched it back in '99.

I particularly liked the removal of "Master! Destroyers!" early on, immediately giving the impression that Qui Gon had sensed the arrival of the droids and adding a truer dimension to Neeson's Jedi character.

Jar Jar

Jar Jar's introduction is one of the most painful parts of TPM for me so I was eager to see what MF had done. Like Gunray and co, Jar Jar has been given the dubbing treatment (using some backwards Spanish this time?). Not only does this remove the childish tone it enables a whole new and yet still clumsy character to come through. I liked the majority of the new lines (subtitles) for Jar Jar and the Trade Federation, however, I felt that some of them went a little too far. My impression was that this edit was to make TPM more in-line with the OT. Where in the original trilogy do we see alien's swearing at anyone, let alone kids!? MF's new Watto was far more balanced for me and worked far better. That said MF's Jar Jar is still a HUGE improvement over the original.

Trims

I am 2/3 of the way through editing the TPM myself (learning Final Cut Pro) so I was pleased to see that MF had trimmed some of the same dialog as me. Jake's performance does genuinely seem improved by simple trimming as does the scene between Qui Gon and Shmi by leaving out the virgin birth embarrassment. Also the reintroduction of the waterfall scene was welcome as was the removal of the extensive underwater bongo sequence that precedes it.

Tech

Technically MF has done as good a job as could be done. Some of the additional music and timing of the wipes didn't work for me but one can certainly see that a lot of effort has gone into 'Balance'. Being an editor I am all too aware of the frustrations of having to work with the available footage. A while MagnoliaFan has not created the slickest of films it is by far the slickest fan edit to date. It is clear that he has done as much as anybody could do with what Burtt and Lucas have left us with. Indeed imagine what MF could do with all of the source material that Lucasfilm had available to them.
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I have since watched 'The Clone War' too. Despite AOTC being far far better than TPM in my opinion, MagnoliaFan has made a better film by far. By removing silly points and reintroducing some deleted character development scenes the film now feels right. Wonderful stuff!

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#59147
Topic
Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59147/action/topic#59147
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Originally posted by: spidernap
Just finished watching Balance of the Force (thanks to MagnoliaFan and RiKter) its an excellent edit.
MagnoliaFan: what software and machine (mac / pc) did you used to make it???? I am completely impressed by your editing skills.


I asked this quesiton on another thread but I think it got missed. I am an editor myself and I am currently teaching myself Final Cut Pro on my mac. MagnoliaFan probably used that or Avid I would think.

J
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#59117
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You might not believe Lucas said this...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/59117/action/topic#59117
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I think if this site had 60 Million signatures on the petition Lucas would jump at the chance to release the OT. Lucasfilm have conned us more times than I can think of with the numerous rereleases for one reason, money. Most of my respect for Lucas went out of the window after TPM and even more so when I read an article recently saying he disliked what Kershner had done with ESB so much that for ROTJ he hired a young director, Richard Marquand, that he could easily bully!