JakeRyan17

NeverarGreat said:

The problem is that the children are never given a choice, whereas a recruit clearly made a decision to join. Pretty sure no officer ever came up to them and said ‘anyone who wants to leave, here’s the door.’

Sure, but the indoctrination would be present regardless. Hitler Youth wanted to become Nazis and SS, and would have conscripted (some who were older did). So while they weren’t technically kidnapped children, and technically chose to join…

The difference is negligible at best to me. I know people that were indoctrinated since birth to be hateful bigots, and we were even once friends… but we’re not now, and by all accounts they believe I deserve to die for existing. So it’s not as unrealistic as I feel is being presented here.

The point of difference isn’t about them being presented the choice to defect, mutiny, or run, but rather that some people chose it knowing they were risking their lives. That’s what makes Finn heroic, even if he is “murdering his friends”…

I mean… this never bothered me as much as everyone else. I guess that even though they were trained “since birth” or whatever Hux says, all the stormtroopers that don’t defect do choose to stay. Finn, Jannah, and the rest kinda prove that those who didn’t defect didn’t want to defect. Finn killing those he was close to is always in self-defence as they’re trying to kill him.

Of all the issues in this trilogy, that just doesn’t register to me.

The idea of changing the guns to stunners is kinda fun, reminds me of the animated shows where the heroes never kill (humanoids) with blasters, only stun. It’s kinda comical and something I thought was Disney until I paid closer attention to Clone Wars and realised it’s likely Filoni’s call.

That’s a fun idea, how would you visualise it (beyond cutting shots of him on the harness out)?

But that would be so early in story phase, it’s likely an alternate line that was never animated. So, we likely have that scene, she just says something different.

It’s not like the Morris arc where they cut a full sequence out.

I feel like they mention the Force awakening in her a shit ton, it’s even the title of the film…

And Rogue One also supports the idea that The Force affects who is shot or not shot… and when people feel they tend to use the Force, even without training (such as Luke in the Wampa’s cave).

cough Maybe she uses the The Force when she fires the blaster seeing how emotional she is… cough

Vader is defeated in A New Hope. We don’t have to imagine it— we saw it. His ship is shot down and spins out of control, then his battle station is destroyed and his boss is killed. The villains lost in A New Hope much more than the villains of The Force Awakens.

SandMTV said:

I wish there are deleted scenes of the Siege of Mandalore and illustraed screenplays for them.

I don’t think they made much more from it, to my knowledge. That arc was pretty much what they planned it to be.

DominicCobb said:

PM me so I don’t forget. Although to anyone else reading I might stop giving out links. There’ll be at least one other workprint in the future before the V1, and it’d be nice to get some new eyes on it if possible (also I feel like I went too far on the bitrate and it looks like shit which is lowkey embarrassing for me).

I’ll wait for the next workprint then. Some of the cut order things will have to wait, but story beats I can track with just text. Make sure to comment when there’s a new workprint and I’ll PM to get a link then.

Could I get a link? I’ve been following this for awhile, and I think it’s gotten to the point where it’s hard to follow without watching 😅

Was trying to hold out for a v1

Mocata said:

I’m into series 3 now and the best elements are still the villains and the clones. Actual Jedi? Not so much. I feel like Anakin and Obiwan are still doing their wooden PT schtick and nothing has clicked with Ahsoka.

It takes a bit with her. When she starts looking at the war in more grey and complicated terms than the other Jedi is what kicks it off. The crescendo is when she’s kicked out of the Jedi Order and what comes after, including her role in Rebels.

Wexter said:

JakeRyan17 said:

Wexter said:

Ed Slushie said:

Wexter said:

QEXP said:

I haven’t looked through all 3,000+ replies to this topic, so forgive me if someone has already pitched this.

Is there a feasible way to remove both Snoke and Palpatine from the entire sequel trilogy, and have Kylo Ren as the sole main villain?

Getting rid of Snoke in The Force Awakens is no problem, he only has a few scenes.

The Last Jedi would be a bit more of a problem. The Snoke’s Throne Room scene would have to go, or at least be heavily altered.

Snoke isn’t a problem in Rise of Skywalker, but the Emperor poses some major issues. The Force battle finale on the ground on Exegol would have to go. Maybe the space battle could be salvaged, but Rey v Grandpa Sheev would definitely get cut. Maybe the Rey/Kylo lightsaber fight on the Death Star wreckage could serve as the final battle?

Anyone has any suggestions on how to make this crazy idea work, hit me back!

I think this could work reasonably well as a 2-in-1 edit of TFA and TLJ. I’m not so sure there are any parts of TROS that are worth salvaging (or even useable for a project like this).

Other than that just edit out any scene involving Snoke and any reference to him. Make Kylo turn to the dark side simply because of his ambition and his Vader fanboyism. Luckily both of the sequel trilogy’s big baddies feel pretty tacked-on and don’t really connect to any of the backstory until Rey becomes a Palpatine, so this idea could be feasible and could even make for a stronger story.

I actually had an idea kind of similar to this, though I don’t remember posting it. Basically, remove the cave scene and its aftermath from TLJ. Instead, reinstate the “caretaker village” deleted scene and have Rey leave the planet right after it - this way it seems like she’s going to go help the resistance herself instead of confronting Kylo. Then she doesn’t reappear until the battle of Crait.

I’d have TLJ play out pretty much the way it does (besides heavily reducing the Resistance “B” plot). Then I guess you could end on the final scene from TROS with some alterations. Rey buries Anakin’s broken lightsaber at the Lars homestead and comes to terms with being “Rey Nobody”, having realised that’s what the cave on Ach-To has been telling her. But the original TLJ ending probably works better than that.

Taking elements from TRoS to augment the ending of TLJ could definitely work. You could even have the civilian fleet be responding to the Crait call, going into Exegol’s space battle and the Kef Bir dual as the final fights.

The fleet could be pretty interesting, but I wouldn’t include the Kef Bir fight, mainly because I don’t find it too compelling. I’d actually prefer to leave Kylo’s fate open-ended.

I more meant to give Rey closure, and to end the threat. In TLJ, we’re left with Kylo being the big bad, and with him not being defeated. The heroes merely escape him. He’s too significant a character to disappear throughout the third act.

If you used the Kef Bir dual, you could even have Rey kill Kylo, making it more of an ending to their stories. Rey leaving could then lead into her arrival on Ajan Kloss (you’d have to cut her entering the TIE). She could still apologise to Kylo, but instead of healing him he’d watch her leave, confused how he beat her.

Wexter said:

Ed Slushie said:

Wexter said:

QEXP said:

I haven’t looked through all 3,000+ replies to this topic, so forgive me if someone has already pitched this.

Is there a feasible way to remove both Snoke and Palpatine from the entire sequel trilogy, and have Kylo Ren as the sole main villain?

Getting rid of Snoke in The Force Awakens is no problem, he only has a few scenes.

The Last Jedi would be a bit more of a problem. The Snoke’s Throne Room scene would have to go, or at least be heavily altered.

Snoke isn’t a problem in Rise of Skywalker, but the Emperor poses some major issues. The Force battle finale on the ground on Exegol would have to go. Maybe the space battle could be salvaged, but Rey v Grandpa Sheev would definitely get cut. Maybe the Rey/Kylo lightsaber fight on the Death Star wreckage could serve as the final battle?

Anyone has any suggestions on how to make this crazy idea work, hit me back!

I think this could work reasonably well as a 2-in-1 edit of TFA and TLJ. I’m not so sure there are any parts of TROS that are worth salvaging (or even useable for a project like this).

Other than that just edit out any scene involving Snoke and any reference to him. Make Kylo turn to the dark side simply because of his ambition and his Vader fanboyism. Luckily both of the sequel trilogy’s big baddies feel pretty tacked-on and don’t really connect to any of the backstory until Rey becomes a Palpatine, so this idea could be feasible and could even make for a stronger story.

I actually had an idea kind of similar to this, though I don’t remember posting it. Basically, remove the cave scene and its aftermath from TLJ. Instead, reinstate the “caretaker village” deleted scene and have Rey leave the planet right after it - this way it seems like she’s going to go help the resistance herself instead of confronting Kylo. Then she doesn’t reappear until the battle of Crait.

I’d have TLJ play out pretty much the way it does (besides heavily reducing the Resistance “B” plot). Then I guess you could end on the final scene from TROS with some alterations. Rey buries Anakin’s broken lightsaber at the Lars homestead and comes to terms with being “Rey Nobody”, having realised that’s what the cave on Ach-To has been telling her. But the original TLJ ending probably works better than that.

Taking elements from TRoS to augment the ending of TLJ could definitely work. You could even have the civilian fleet be responding to the Crait call, going into Exegol’s space battle and the Kef Bir dual as the final fights.

I just figure part of them being mercenaries or whatever will lead them away from big Imperial cities and planets, excepting their home world Kamino (which we saw in the trailer).

Everywhere else we saw seemed like something very much not Coruscant. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Ed Slushie said:

Wexter said:

QEXP said:

I haven’t looked through all 3,000+ replies to this topic, so forgive me if someone has already pitched this.

Is there a feasible way to remove both Snoke and Palpatine from the entire sequel trilogy, and have Kylo Ren as the sole main villain?

Getting rid of Snoke in The Force Awakens is no problem, he only has a few scenes.

The Last Jedi would be a bit more of a problem. The Snoke’s Throne Room scene would have to go, or at least be heavily altered.

Snoke isn’t a problem in Rise of Skywalker, but the Emperor poses some major issues. The Force battle finale on the ground on Exegol would have to go. Maybe the space battle could be salvaged, but Rey v Grandpa Sheev would definitely get cut. Maybe the Rey/Kylo lightsaber fight on the Death Star wreckage could serve as the final battle?

Anyone has any suggestions on how to make this crazy idea work, hit me back!

I think this could work reasonably well as a 2-in-1 edit of TFA and TLJ. I’m not so sure there are any parts of TROS that are worth salvaging (or even useable for a project like this).

Other than that just edit out any scene involving Snoke and any reference to him. Make Kylo turn to the dark side simply because of his ambition and his Vader fanboyism. Luckily both of the sequel trilogy’s big baddies feel pretty tacked-on and don’t really connect to any of the backstory until Rey becomes a Palpatine, so this idea could be feasible and could even make for a stronger story.

I actually had an idea kind of similar to this, though I don’t remember posting it. Basically, remove the cave scene and its aftermath from TLJ. Instead, reinstate the “caretaker village” deleted scene and have Rey leave the planet right after it - this way it seems like she’s going to go help the resistance herself instead of confronting Kylo. Then she doesn’t reappear until the battle of Crait.

Doesn’t this kind of… destroy her arc, Luke’s arc, and Kylo’s arc? None of them learn or grow without the cave, the throne room, and then the tree (for Luke). Luke’s reappearance at the Battle of Crait is then unearned and his motivations before, when he was hard on Rey or “grumpy” no longer make sense or have closure. Kylo no longer tries to take agency and “offers his hand” to Rey to rule together (echoing Vader’s offer to Luke in TESB). And Rey doesn’t actually learn by failure— which is the entire theme of the film.

I feel like you’d have to manufacture a lot more to make any of it make sense without the core emotional beats for three primary characters.

QEXP said:

I haven’t looked through all 3,000+ replies to this topic, so forgive me if someone has already pitched this.

Is there a feasible way to remove both Snoke and Palpatine from the entire sequel trilogy, and have Kylo Ren as the sole main villain?

Getting rid of Snoke in The Force Awakens is no problem, he only has a few scenes.

The Last Jedi would be a bit more of a problem. The Snoke’s Throne Room scene would have to go, or at least be heavily altered.

Snoke isn’t a problem in Rise of Skywalker, but the Emperor poses some major issues. The Force battle finale on the ground on Exegol would have to go. Maybe the space battle could be salvaged, but Rey v Grandpa Sheev would definitely get cut. Maybe the Rey/Kylo lightsaber fight on the Death Star wreckage could serve as the final battle?

Anyone has any suggestions on how to make this crazy idea work, hit me back!

I mean, the the Throne Room sequence in TLJ is pretty much the backbone of both characters’ arcs. I think it would be easier to modify TRoS to be rid of Palpatine and have Kylo as the final baddie, but keep Snoke.

You would have to create a new mcguffin, that draws Kylo and Rey together on Kef Bir though.

Is that all still canon? Not suggesting it’s been replaced, just wasn’t sure it was addressed anywhere in current canon.

Sure thing, wish I could be more helpful

Yikes, well… it’s time to back everything up before troubleshooting more.

Gotcha, yeah. It’s that i5 that’s your bottleneck. Do you have Premiere/Media Encoder set to use Metal acceleration?that may help too. I’d also recommend exporting out of Media Encoder, that way you can quit out of Premiere and use less resources for that Application and just have Media Encoder running.

It might be the CPU then. That’s the only thing that seems not ready to overwork, or older in any case. Is this the last cheese grater v1 Mac Pro?

If you’re on Mac, go to the Apple Logo in the menubar, and click “About This Mac…”

64bit apps and OSes are more complex and can utilise more RAM. I think Catalina was when macOS fully committed to 64bit architecture and left 32bit behind. So, if you’re running Premiere CC in that OS or newer, you should be fine.

The bitrate of the video shouldn’t matter based on the codec settings you listed.

In the About This Mac, you can also find info about your graphics card. Intel Iris graphics and other Intel graphics cards are integrated to the CPU and share their RAM. If you have an NVIDIA or AMD graphics card, it should have its own dedicated RAM.

Also, in Premiere Pro’s preferences, you can dictate how much RAM the application has access to. This is to keep the application from choking your system during an export, but the default may be lower than you want. I’d set it to 18GB or 20GB, that way there’s 4-6GB RAM for any other tasks you’re doing.

I’m using a late-2014 15” MacBook Pro (I’d have to look up more detailed specs), and I don’t seem to be having that extensive of export times unless I’m doing a lot of graphics-intensive work, like color correction or VFX.

What codec are you using for 480p SD?

Are the app/os versions 64bit?

How much RAM?

How much VRAM from dedicated GPU?

I read some editorial somewhere that this reminds me of. It was pointing out the backlash against The Last of Us Part II, and how the protagonist was disliked for being so violent and an awful human being, unlike the male lead in the prior game who rescues her in a violent rampage and effectively commits genocide by preventing a cure from being made. The accepted male protagonist isn’t criticised, even though he’s far more violent than the female protagonist.

People have an issue with female characters acting “like men”. Many people in the audience had zero issues with Rey. I had plenty of issues with TFA, and Rey being a “Mary Sue” doesn’t even register as one of them. I think it’s more about a cultural gender roles issue than it actually is a problem with the character and what she’s doing. Her victory at the end of the film is far less contrived or exaggerated than the victories of our other two (male) protagonists in their respective first films, and the hero’s journey is often defined by an early victory before the big defeat.

It’s because Rey is a woman. Not calling anyone actively or intentionally sexist, but every argument that’s being raised can’t really hold water—- especially when compared to Anakin and Luke.

I think if there’s a connection to Abrams writing TRoS in response to Rey’s powers, it would be like everything else in that film: bending over backwards to please Reddit trolls who didn’t like The Last Jedi. That’s not artistic intention, quite the opposite.

Ignoring most of the “she’s a Mary Sue because… reasons!”

But Lightsabers have always been shown to be heavy. It was a major plot element in the first six films that Vader was the only one strong enough to wield a lightsaber with one hand.

Is that still canon? Maybe not. But lightsabers have never been described or depicted as light.

But keep looking for reasons to call Rey a Mary Sue despite her similarities to Luke and Anakin.

As for the question of how she resisted the mind probe, it’s a common trope that Rey quotes… about doors being able to be walked through from either direction when opened.