I just don’t understand how they’re gonna edit the trilogy to make Kylo an active antagonist at the end. Or is the goal to smooth out the transition from being Snoake’s errand boy to Palpatine’s without ever desiring autonomy?
It’s pretty clean, except for an awkward cut at the beginning when Luke says “Impressive”.
I’m not 100% sold on the fan-made footage, though it’s cut in well (if I pretend it’s the actors in the right setting).
I miss Luke being snarky and mischievous like Yoda though… But I know a lot of people hated that. 😅
I think in the ancillary materials, it’s stated she was designing a lightsaber like that and changed away from it after the vision.
If there was a way to restore that to her in that final scene, it would be cool though.
He drives the plot in the first two films. While him becoming co-general and whatever happens with the tower is lacklustre, I think it’s far worse to minimise him further.
If you want to get rid of him in TRoS, kill him off on Crait or even before you could cut around to make it seem as though he’s been executed. Then cut him out of TRoS entirely.
I’m definitely down with Stunners, and the way the films are originally doesn’t really bother me either. But the cutting out how they were conscripted makes Finn seem much more evil and complicit… and as far as Rey having an emotional connection to Ben’s death, well… she knows him, and cares about him. It isn’t exactly shocking that Luke went from needing to kill Vader to being unable to once he found out Vader is his father…
And Finn nearly was shot by Poe at the beginning of TFA. Luck is what saved Finn on Jakku, not Poe’s morality.
I guess to me, they’re still fighting faceless people who, recruited as children or not, take part in multiple genocides, and those who were less directly involved cheered it on.
I don’t feel like our heroes become heartless because they prioritise the needs of those who can’t defend themselves rather than feeling bad for genocidal armies.
I feel like Finn having been one of them, and with how we see his defection and actions against his former comrades, he seems to show that he knows they are who they are. He thought himself to be the only one to question what they were doing, which is why he’s so shocked to see more (in Jannah and her crew).
These troops are all adults, joining as children or not they have chosen to commit such atrocities that I don’t feel their deaths harm the way we see the heroes or their actions.
Yeah, I mean… they only committed genocide 5 times in TFA without defecting, and are preparing to staff ships that each are designed to commit genocide with a single shot, including Kijimi.
Recruited as a child or not, if you don’t defect after five planets are obliterated, I think you’ve had just as much opportunity to be complicit.
Or do we not mind multiple genocides if it’s done by adults that joined as children?
I feel like I’m in college, attending a debate on morality with Nev and Jake on stage. I’m taking notes for my extra credit assignment.
College was fun, haha.
It still just feels like an excuse to make murder seem more palatable, which just seems silly in the first place. It’s either right or wrong, and the level of brainwashing necessary makes their age seem moot to me. Again, conscripted as children or not, they are all adults that can choose to leave, the way Finn and Jannah (and even Hux) did. This also means that the rest, conscripted as children or not, chose not to defect.
I feel like this change doesn’t actually change who dies or who doesn’t. It just makes us feel better about some deaths, and that feels like a strange goal. Are we supposed to feel more excited by people being brainwashed at 18 instead of 17? What age does empathy wear off, exactly? At what age do we say people taking the same exact actions deserve to die versus don’t deserve to die?
But that’s the thing, he wants to overthrow Palpatine to regain the power and status he lost. After the Force memory his mother sent of his father, he grows to no longer need that. But it was still his goal throughout the beginning of the film.
Destroying his mask was a symbol of autonomy, relying on himself, free from bondage or trying to free himself. The mask was a symbol of him being trapped in his desires to have control. He takes control when he destroys the mask, and he realises he does not have control when he remakes it. When he takes the mask of throughout IX, it’s to take control of a situation.
I never said master and apprentice, but Kylo did lose his armies to Palpatine. Whether he became servant or not, his character was regressing from the power and autonomy he gained in TLJ.
Damn! It’s extra impressive if you did that on your phone.
Rey and Finn Vs Kylo Force Awakens (Fan Edit) ROUGH CUT edited by me: https://vimeo.com/496352932 password: ReyVKylo
The video that i was inspired by:
https://youtu.be/4yZYRQrk9eQ
this is my version of the fight, kylo is a threatening villain and rey is a force user with great potential (I’m sorry if it’s bad, this is my first fan edit)
I like some of the changes, but were you trying to make it that Rey opens up the crack in the ground at the end? That seemed to be the implication, wasn’t sure if it was intentional. Other than that there was a spot where the music shifted when she used the Force to get the lightsaber, that’s the only flaw I noticed. Cool concept.
He is regressing though, he went from being the big bad in charge to Palpatine’s enforcer.
That is a good point. Maybe when Rose asks what he is doing, instead of saying, “We’re taking the entire ship down”, he could say, “We’re taking the First Order down.”
Might not be good. I just wish their interaction was a little different.
I would like that. Hell, I’d love a repeat of the line from TLJ about being the spark that burns the FO down… but I think only Poe, Leia, and Holdo say it (or things like it).
While I understand wanting to make Hux the person Finn kills, his becoming the spy and helping Finn closes that loop (independent of his death by Pryde). The system that faccilitated Hux’s army (that wasn’t just Hux’s since he’s too young) is what Finn is destroying, and those he loves and desires to save are The Resistance.
I would’ve liked the line, because it’s a more meaningful sacrifice that he’s contemplating (rather than dying to fail in saving the Resistance in TLJ).
Yeah. Like when the main logo opens and the white title text rotates 45 degrees?
I have the font Disney used for the episode titles, but not the motion graphic itself. I would love to have it as well if anyone has it. I could create it in After Effects, but I don’t really have the time right now.
Has anyone got a template of the rotating title star wars logo? After effect or premiere pro version will do.
Like from the trailers? I’m not sure which rotating graphic you’re referring to.
If Lego Star Wars the Skywalker saga Mandalorian Season 2 pack includes “The Jedi” Episode and have Ashley Eckstein re-record Rosario’s lines, you should replaced Rosario’s voice with Ashley’s.
Nah, Rosario gave a great performance and will reprise the character in her own series. We shouldn’t try and replace the woman of colour in every live action appearance for no reason…
I’d rather overdub Hayden Christiansen and Mat Lucas with Matt Lanter in the prequels and 2003 series… but that’s similarly unnecessary.
I would like a version of the movie that keeps most of Hal9000’s changes.
My only extra edits would be this:
Keep leia’s lightsaber the same colour as it is in the movie originally.
I don’t want to see the force ghosts. I don’t want to see ghost ben solo.Id pay someone to do it.
Why so against giving Leia’s colour the colour Carrie Fisher desired while also making it distinct from the other lightsaber being used in the scene (which helps show/emphasise that Ben uses his grandfather’s saber)?
I get not having all the ghosts in the climax… but taking Ben out of the final ghost scene was a big issue for me personally. It felt dismissive of his character arc and Rey’s as well for that matter.
Just curious to hear your reasoning.
No, but she says civilians deserve to be murdered by cops… again: brainwashing is brainwashing. Anyone can be radicalised.
I’m just saying that if we want to feel better about stormtroopers in Star Wars being people, stunners is the way to go. Trying to find reasons to excuse murders just feels wrong. Stormtroopers being abducted as children or conscripting as adults doesn’t really matter. They are adults now with the ability to go against those orders (as Finn, Jannah, and several others have) or not. I don’t think we need to create an age limit for when someone joined they deserve to die or not.
If empathy is the goal, looking for excuses why some people deserve to die and others don’t, especially separated from their own actions (as no one is changing what the First Order is doing, we’re not talking about cutting out the violence stormtroopers inflict here), just doesn’t feel like the path to it.
If people being killed bothers you, stunners solve that problem. A new backstory that’s barely different doesn’t really change the fact that people who used to be in the same position as Finn and Jannah are now being killed by them.
My point is more that brainwashing is brainwashing. My mom didn’t used to be racist or homophobic, now she is. We can make broad strokes about why she deserves to be murdered more than her child she’s raising in that worldview, but to me it just kinda seems moot. We can call her stupid, or blame her for not understanding trickle-down farces… but at the end of the day she was brainwashed, but she’d deny being brainwashed.
If we’re against killing brainwashed people, then stunners are the way to go. Trying to parse out which brainwashed people deserve to die and which we feel bad about is what feels antipathetic to me.
It would make it so that Finn wanted to join the First Order, which in and of itself wouldn’t make sense.
And brainwashing can happen at any age, either way there would be a level of brainwashing happening. I feel like we’re just looking for excuses to not care about people dying, which… I dunno. Kinda goes against the “empathy” argument to me.
I mean, none of the Space Nazis’ actions are meant to be comfortable… same with their regular genocides. We’re not meant to be fans of villains’ actions.
I get that it’s illustrating something awful in the real world, but that’s kinda the point. That’s how fascist armies are built. The ideals of fascism are kinda childish, few reasonable adults choose it. It’s only through indoctrination and childish needs for vengeance that people choose it. So, kidnapped as physical children or mental children, it doesn’t feel like as big a difference to me.