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#1352664
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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mrbenjamino said:

JakeRyan17 said:

mrbenjamino said:

Tried the same fadey thing with the Leia death scene, again it’s just youtube downloaded video and quick editing but it’s just an example

https://vimeo.com/426678808
password fanedit

That’s very similar to what I did. One extra thing I added was her line to Han “Bring him home.” from The Force Awakens while she lays down with the medal, to better connect that she’s the one bringing the “memory” of Han to Kylo.

Ohhh so you already did it, sorry

No need to be sorry, I was encouraging you! This thread isn’t even my edit, haha. We all have good ideas, and if something is a good idea it’s bound to strike more than one of us. It’s about sharing and collaborating.

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#1352662
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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mrbenjamino said:

Tried the same fadey thing with the Leia death scene, again it’s just youtube downloaded video and quick editing but it’s just an example

https://vimeo.com/426678808
password fanedit

That’s very similar to what I did. One extra thing I added was her line to Han “Bring him home.” from The Force Awakens while she lays down with the medal, to better connect that she’s the one bringing the “memory” of Han to Kylo.

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#1352619
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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OutboundFlight said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

What’s the equivalent of cheap frozen dinner in this context?

The Prequels. They come together in a package with a really fancy background but no real substance. The food sounds interesting in concept but turn up completely bland and flavorless. And only the last part is any good.

And you’re still nostalgic for the rush you had as a child when such bland meals seemed exciting because they were shaped like dinosaurs.

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#1352390
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Anakin Starkiller said:

I think this article makes a very good point: it’s not the ending that messes everything up, it’s the pointlessly meandering middle. Nothing of consequence happens until the finale, which on its own is actually fairly solid IMO, if uninspired.

The ending is good in the abstract, but it’s not very balanced, and a lot of the action blends together. Compare it to Return of the Jedi, where the three fields of battle have clear distinctions and plots that allow each of the primary characters to shine.

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#1352113
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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act on instinct said:

Hal 9000 said:

If you like JJ better, RJ’s chapter is gonna stand out as the spoiled meat in the sandwhich. And if you like RJ, JJ seems like he slapped pop tarts on either side of roast beef.

Late to the party but I love this analogy.

I dunno… I feel like Pop Tarts is exceptionally generous to Mr. Abrams…

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#1351835
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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idir_hh said:

RJ is good with themes and character archs, basically the deep stuff.

JJ is good with action setpieces and humour, basically the fun stuff.

I think a mix of both is what this film needed.

But that doesn’t require writing (and that’s also ignoring how messily constructed the Battle of Exegol is). When he’s writing he cuts the story and character to make room for set pieces.

An easy example is Rey cutting down Kylo’s TIE on Pasaana. This TIE is new to this film, and in the opening sequence is established to have the McGuffin of the film (one of the Wayfinders). When Rey cuts the TIE down, she’s destroying the ship with what she’s searching for (even if she doesn’t know it, the audience does). There’s no shot of Kylo grabbing the Wayfinder and no shot of him leaving Pasaana on either the shuttle that does have Chewie, or on the Knights’ of Ren ship. Later scenes establish he wasn’t travelling on the shuttle with Chewie and he’s informed of the Knights tracking the heroes to Kijimi, so he didn’t leave the planet with them, we just see him on the Star Destroyer again. Then, on Kef Bir, we see Rey steak this unique new TIE with the Wayfinder after their duel and she takes it to Ahch-To, where she destroys it for a second time. It’s a major plot hole because of the Wayfinder and the fact that this design of TIE is unique to Kylo.

I’m my edit I felt it necessary to cut that fun action scene because it so contradicts the rest of the plot and story.

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#1351829
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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idir_hh said:

Would have been interesting to see JJ and Rian take up the script for episode 9, with one of them taking the director’s chair.

It would’ve been interesting for Johnson to take care of the script and Abrams to never touch another script again… he’s a beautiful visualist, but sacrifices story for shallow imagery every time. Some of the imagery from Rise of Skywalker is amongst the most beautiful crafted for any film, even beyond Star Wars, but a lot of it is wasted.

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#1351827
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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omnimuffin said:

JakeRyan17 said:

omnimuffin said:

thebluefrog said:

axlanian said:

idir_hh said:

Maybe the galaxy thinks he is dead but I think the ideal would be to have him in self exile. A batman like figure that appears and disappears out of nowhere, helping out around the galaxy as a form of penance. A symbol.

As cheesy as it sounds, this is kind of what I would have wanted. Rey and Ben wouldn’t be hooking up in secret or anything, he’d just become a wandering fighter for justice, trying to right some of his wrongs. Potentially with his mother’s lightsaber.

Obviously there’s no way to make that happen in an edit, but it’s what seems like a feasible story decision to me. He DEFINITELY could not join up with the Resistance and be like “It’s cool, I’m a good guy now!”

Should be noted that Driver specifically said that Kylo-Ben’s story would not end the same way as Anakin’s.

I suspect, back when writing TFA, JJ and KK MIGHT have considered Kylo living at the end. Unfortunately, the overwhelming pressures of Disney needing the usual stereotypical bad vs good storyline ending meant that they didn’t want to take the risk and, yep, bad guy dies, good guy lives.

At the Lucasfilm purchase, someone at Disney (Maybe Iger?) likely wanted a completely blank franchise to start over with. In the planning stages, however, they were convinced they shouldn’t risk rebooting everything, so they did the safer nostalgia-based soft-remake. Hence all the interquels as well.

Suppose if you were to remove the existence of the OT completely. As in, this is a completely new SW universe.

Under Disney, it would’ve ended exactly the same as it did. Good guy lives, bad guy dies.

I personally would’ve found it brave if they’d let Kylo live. It may be possible to do an edit where he goes into exile, like Jon Snow did. If anything, Kylo should’ve been the one to vanish into the Tattooine desert while Rey goes off with her friends.

I feel like you’re drastically overestimating the creative influence Disney applies to its subsidiaries.

TROS is how it is because JJ Abrams is JJ Abrams, and this time he didn’t have Lawrence Kasdan to balance him out.

Kasdan didn’t really balance him out in TFA either…

He balanced him out better than Terrio did, haha.

I don’t think either of them were able to do anything to mitigate his flaws, they’re just easier to overlook in a part one than a part three.

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#1351825
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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omnimuffin said:

thebluefrog said:

axlanian said:

idir_hh said:

Maybe the galaxy thinks he is dead but I think the ideal would be to have him in self exile. A batman like figure that appears and disappears out of nowhere, helping out around the galaxy as a form of penance. A symbol.

As cheesy as it sounds, this is kind of what I would have wanted. Rey and Ben wouldn’t be hooking up in secret or anything, he’d just become a wandering fighter for justice, trying to right some of his wrongs. Potentially with his mother’s lightsaber.

Obviously there’s no way to make that happen in an edit, but it’s what seems like a feasible story decision to me. He DEFINITELY could not join up with the Resistance and be like “It’s cool, I’m a good guy now!”

Should be noted that Driver specifically said that Kylo-Ben’s story would not end the same way as Anakin’s.

I suspect, back when writing TFA, JJ and KK MIGHT have considered Kylo living at the end. Unfortunately, the overwhelming pressures of Disney needing the usual stereotypical bad vs good storyline ending meant that they didn’t want to take the risk and, yep, bad guy dies, good guy lives.

At the Lucasfilm purchase, someone at Disney (Maybe Iger?) likely wanted a completely blank franchise to start over with. In the planning stages, however, they were convinced they shouldn’t risk rebooting everything, so they did the safer nostalgia-based soft-remake. Hence all the interquels as well.

Suppose if you were to remove the existence of the OT completely. As in, this is a completely new SW universe.

Under Disney, it would’ve ended exactly the same as it did. Good guy lives, bad guy dies.

I personally would’ve found it brave if they’d let Kylo live. It may be possible to do an edit where he goes into exile, like Jon Snow did. If anything, Kylo should’ve been the one to vanish into the Tattooine desert while Rey goes off with her friends.

I feel like you’re drastically overestimating the creative influence Disney applies to its subsidiaries.

TROS is how it is because JJ Abrams is JJ Abrams, and this time he didn’t have Lawrence Kasdan to balance him out.

Kasdan didn’t really balance him out in TFA either…

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#1351818
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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omnimuffin said:

Putting the hidden secret Sith cult power base on the very publicly known ancient homeworld of the Sith doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense.

It implies that at no point during their lifetimes did Luke Skywalker or Kylo Ren visit Korriban, which is silly at best.

It’s not like part of the plot involves Luke trying to track Sith assassins down or something…

Wait… 😜

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#1351747
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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idir_hh said:

I say just turn Exogol into Korriban. Instead of a rip-off, why not use the real thing?

Too many characters have visited it in the past. If you make this change, the entire plot and chain of mcguffins to be able to travel there doesn’t work. You’d have to make a lot of changes as to why they can’t just go to Korriban/Moraband.

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#1351603
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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axlanian said:

I think Ben needs to survive. He feels really out of place as a force ghost, and the movie makes it clear that Leia only stopped training because her son would die if she continued.

Except he still died, so what was the point of her not being a Jedi?!?

Ben dying makes Leia’s storyline even worse in TRoS. Cut his death.

I like that, conceptually, but then it becomes awkward that he doesn’t leave Exegol, or have any end scene somewhere (Ajan Kloss or elsewhere). This is part of what made cutting Lando and Jannah’s scene outright difficult, because it’s the only footage of them on Ajan Kloss for the celebrations. You would still need to insert him to either that scene or on Tatooine, or create a new scene of him somewhere else alone.

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#1351542
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Ed Slushie said:

idir_hh said:

What I would do for a LOTR style Extended edition of the Sequels.

I know, right? You’d think that after one three-hour movie (Return of the King) tops the box office and wins best picture in the same year, and another one (Avengers: Endgame) becomes the highest-grossing film of all time, studios would become more comfortable with it.

It’s more that there are less showings available. That extra run time gets rid of a bunch of sold out theatre screenings… hypothetically.

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#1351384
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Knight of Kalee said:

The one where Luke accepts the saber and walks off was surprisingly well made, though it made me wonder how does Rey retrieve it later.

Is there any version where Luke just hands the lightsaber back to Rey, using a reversed version of the close-up where Luke receives it?

Could just cut her retrieving it, since the next time we see it is after he agrees to train her?

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#1351360
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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idir_hh said:

An analysis of how The Rise of skywalker was filmed and stylistically shot.
https://youtu.be/6t1eZR2vdq8

I find some of things here to be useful to keep in mind when editing.

I have noticed that. Johnson did it a lot too. Very annoying when you’re trying to cut around silliness. Coverage helps when you’re adjusting an edit.