No cleaned up versions have ever been released. All these attempts have been by fans.
I know, I meant by people here. There are dozens of threads, but it seems like a handful of people have files but there are no links and no one can get ahold of the people who made them.
Is there a single spot with all of the OT deleted scenes? I’ve searched a bunch and have heard people talk about restorations and such, but can never find them.
They’re on the 2011 Blu-ray box-set, on the OT bonus features disc. They’re on the recent 4K box-set as well.
I meant the cleaned up versions. I feel like the last time i looked at the deleted scenes on my BD set they were not HD, they were in a smaller box that didn’t take up the full screen.
This sounds really fun! If you PM’d me a link to a work print, I could help you isolate the DX/FX and get rid of the music a little cleaner and just send you back those audio tracks so you can include the music selections you’ve chosen.
Really? Thank you! Then I’ll finish the workprint and I’ll send you the link. I still don’t know when, but I really appreciate it.
Of course!
Is there a single spot with all of the OT deleted scenes? I’ve searched a bunch and have heard people talk about restorations and such, but can never find them.
I didn’t realise this had been completed, is there any way i can view it?
This sounds really fun! If you PM’d me a link to a work print, I could help you isolate the DX/FX and get rid of the music a little cleaner and just send you back those audio tracks so you can include the music selections you’ve chosen.
I like how they do ‘the Mandalorian’ on the hasbro toy boxes if anyone’s seen that. Rotj style.
Do you have a link to a reference image? I can’t seem to find it…
I can never remember how to post image links but google ‘hasbro at-st vintage collection’ and you’ll see it.
Gotcha. I’ll have to see if I have that font, it doesn’t get used in a lot of current branding.
For this, as it’s being used as an episodic film of The Mandalorian rather than the mainline saga, would “The Mandalorian” replace “Star Wars” and “Vergence in the Force” replace “The Mandalorian” or “Return of the Jedi”?
I like how they do ‘the Mandalorian’ on the hasbro toy boxes if anyone’s seen that. Rotj style.
Do you have a link to a reference image? I can’t seem to find it…
Here’s a version of the logo made to match the Disney+ movie logos, thoughts?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1twgjkHKEvkLJpJo0bo9cJ8WnvRvJ1Bc8/view?usp=sharing
Need to fix “Vergence”, but that looks great!
Damn it. I’m terrible at spelling, and slightly dyslexic. 🤦🏻♂️
If that isn’t just embarrassing as can be.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T8j-DCGwR7e1fyt0o7wUfLZie-EKIzKr/view?usp=sharing
Hyperspace missiles. There, problem solved.
Yes, the scrappy resistance fighters who can barely scrounge up old fighter ships will be able to perfect and develop small, single-use autopilot hyperspace engines at a quantity to overthrow the government. Because that makes more sense.
- The Holdo maneuver is a one in a million,
This is something that needs to be retconned out as well…after the pretty visual effect wore off, everyone immediately asked “well why don’t they just ram everything if a smaller ship can take out an entire fleet in one shot.”
The “one in a million” excuse doesn’t work since they can just launch every ship over and over and over until it works. If you only need one sniper to take out an ENTIRE evil government, why waste time with waging war, just keep sending snipers.
It could be that they wanted to keep themselves on the morally pure side of rebellion in attempts to save lives rather than be constant kamikaze terrorists… context matters, right?
But if they wanted to preserve their own lives, couldn’t they just send droids to lightspeed ram ships? Droids have already been established as being intelligent enough to pilot ships on their own, so why couldn’t they just send unmanned lightspeed missiles to blow up whatever threat was in their way?
Lightspeed ramming was a dumb idea to begin with, and the “one in a million” justification only raises further questions. I agree that Finn’s line should be cut, but if I was making TLJ I would find some other way to blow up Snoke’s ship.
I mean, the movies generally treat droids as being alive, especially our main heroic characters. So, that still wouldn’t work.
And even if they did, that would still paint them more as terrorists and make it harder for the general populace to rally and support them, even after defeating the Empire/First Order. That was decently established with Saw Gerrera in Rogue One and Rebels.
The idea behind what they do was established in A New Hope, the dangers and reasons why not to do it were illustrated, so i don’t feel like it’s as dumb an idea as presented. Especially looking at the randomness of its efficacy and the desperation that caused the tactic to be used.
- The Holdo maneuver is a one in a million,
This is something that needs to be retconned out as well…after the pretty visual effect wore off, everyone immediately asked “well why don’t they just ram everything if a smaller ship can take out an entire fleet in one shot.”
The “one in a million” excuse doesn’t work since they can just launch every ship over and over and over until it works. If you only need one sniper to take out an ENTIRE evil government, why waste time with waging war, just keep sending snipers.
It could be that they wanted to keep themselves on the morally pure side of rebellion in attempts to save lives rather than be constant kamikaze terrorists… context matters, right?
Here’s a version of the logo made to match the Disney+ movie logos, thoughts?
JEDIT: Link to file without typo 🤦🏻♂️
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T8j-DCGwR7e1fyt0o7wUfLZie-EKIzKr/view?usp=sharing
I have logo and font assets related to the sequel trilogy (and saga rebrand for Disney+) if you want me to mock up a logo for you that matches that.
I just think those moments, with the exception of the mama joke at the beginning, work really well. Snoke is toying with Rey, it’s a serious scene for Rey but not for Snoke. He’s amused.
I feel like most of the humour in The Last Jedi functions that way.
Ah yes, I forgot lightsaber forms are genetic.
Exactly. 😂
Just like TLJ!
Everything in TLJ had foundation in TFA. Luke’s characterisation was hinted at in TFA, Rey searching for a connection desperately, etc. There was nothing that came about as fact in a major story development beat that affected who the characters were that was ignored or retconned.
It would be nice to have Finn’s goal after his escape in TFA be to inform the resistance of the existance of Star-killer base. After all, he mopped it’s floors and…somehow… Knew its weak spot.
The hardest scene to re-edit would be at Max’s castle on Takodana. His motivation in that scene is to escape the war.
The Last Jedi wouldn’t need much adjustment, as he believes the war lost at the beginning of the film.
Our fandom gets a little too passionate and vocal… too much when it’s negative. Lucasfilm hears all of it, all of the time. There’s literally someone who scavenges through the internet to collect fanart and sent it to employees every week. Not much has changed at Lucasfilm pre/post Disney, even though it may seem like it.
Everyone working there is trying to make people happy, but the more they focus on the torrent of complaints, the less they’re able to achieve that.
I agree with AniStar. If anything, Kathleen probably thinks of the prequels as an old shame, given how much she tried to ignore them in the first few years of Disney owning Star Wars.
I don’t think it’s ignoring the prequels so much as a producer looking at what the market is requesting and trying to deliver that. That sums up both of Abrams’ films, which both felt acutely reactionary to the films that preceded them (the prequels and The Last Jedi respectively).
I tried to improve the Naboo shot: https://vimeo.com/445910295
That looks pretty good!
These look fantastic… could be film scans.
StarkillerAG said:
But Yoda was only a joke for one scene in ESB, and he was intentionally acting silly to test Luke’s patience. It wasn’t his entire character for the whole movie, like slapstick Hux in TLJ.I realized what was so “off” about TLJ’s tone: it felt like the prequels–specifically, Phantom Menace.
When making the originals, Lucas had people reigning him in to keep his manchild humor at bay. That’s why ROTJ started to go offbeat, since he didn’t have his ex-wife and editor peers going “man, that idea just doesn’t work.”
Phantom was the same way, especially when you look at the infamous documentary footage where his yes-men think he went too far in places but no one stood up to him. People hate Jar Jar because of the tonedeaf slapstick, and most of the side characters are already long forgotten. Anyone really remember Boss Nass or the Shatnerians? Likewise, very few people are demanding more Holdo, Rose, or nameless Mr. “Don’t Join”…and Hux and Finn were reduced to useless Jar Jar gags.
I think Rian Johnson was a bigger fan of the prequels than anyone else at Disney, which is why TLJ had the most direct references. Unfortunately, this also brought Phantom’s manchild humor back…and it really hurt the tone and writing. Solo would’ve been a better film for Rian to go wild on, since its self-contained nature wouldn’t clash with the other sequel films’ tone as much.
I think a good edit could fix Finn and Hux, but as I’ve said earlier, the tech and footage just isn’t there yet. For all its flaws, the Colin T. script gives BOTH of them a better plot and resolution. Maybe someday we can deepfake that into a real movie…assuming Disney doesn’t just erase the sequels anyways.
Having just rewatched it, there’s only that opening scene that bothers me. But I agree that Trevorrow’s script handled their arcs better. And LOTS of people were pissed that Rose was left out of TRoS, especially after the racist and sexist backlash. I also personally loved Holdo, and kinda wish they had adjusted The Last Jedi after Carrie’s passing to have Holdo continue leading the resistance rather than the lacklustre use of her archival footage in Rise of Skywalker. But rather than arguing about those films, let’s keep focused on how to adjust the fan edits.
Does anyone think there’s a way to move Crait into Rise of Skywalker and move some of Rise’s smaller subplots into Last Jedi? This could introduce Pryde sooner, make the Resistance’s escape and the Holdo manoeuvre the third act climax, and allow Luke’s battle with Kylo to help set his redemption in motion as the end of the First act in Rise, especially with Luke’s comment that his father will always be with him (Han with Kylo) setting up that “memory”/haunting at the Death Star.
That might help make the films more cohesive, though it would require a lot of creative editing…
Having Hux be an acolyte of Sidious would’ve done wonders to repair his joke image from TLJ.
Pryde was a useless character; Hux could’ve fit his role fine. Or even have Phasma return again in either role as Sidious’ mole or Rebels’ mole, since she’s a selfish backstabber already.
Maybe an edit could be done someday of erasing Pryde and just making it all Hux.
I think Hux was the spy and killed off so quickly because of the negative feedback from TLJ. I wish they would have developed it more or just had him take the role Pryde had in the film. The spy subplot is just so rushed and empty in the theatrical film.
TLJ Hux began with a “yo mama” joke and then was slapped around like a ragdoll.
His character was deliberately reduced to a Jar Jar joke and there was no coming back from that.
Imagine if Empire started with Vader comically slipping and falling and then Han waves “LATER, YA BIG DORK!”
That would’ve killed the gravitas of the character from that point forward and probably killed ROTJ.
Hence “negative feedback”. I think there was room to come back from that, especially if you look at Yoda’s portrayal in ESB. Point is, that plot line was thin in TRoS, and could have been fleshed out more or they could’ve dropped that subplot and given Hux the role Pryde filled in the final film.
Another solution would be to move the spy subplot up into the other films, which would be difficult with Finn being incapacitated between TFA/TLJ and his style change in TRoS, and introduce Pryde a film earlier. This would also help validate Holdo’s secrecy, since she did not know how the First Order caught up with the fleet.
(This is the radical redux thread, right?)
I don’t know how plausible that idea is but it kind of makes me wish Pryde had an overarching presence across the three films, or merge Hux and Pryde’s roles as a more competent right hand man for Kylo.
Having Hux be an acolyte of Sidious would’ve done wonders to repair his joke image from TLJ.
Pryde was a useless character; Hux could’ve fit his role fine. Or even have Phasma return again in either role as Sidious’ mole or Rebels’ mole, since she’s a selfish backstabber already.
Maybe an edit could be done someday of erasing Pryde and just making it all Hux.
I think Hux was the spy and killed off so quickly because of the negative feedback from TLJ. I wish they would have developed it more or just had him take the role Pryde had in the film. The spy subplot is just so rushed and empty in the theatrical film.