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Just trying to point out how extensive such a change would be.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Oh and it occurred to me today that Kijimi has the same climate as Starkiller Base. Just putting it out there in case someone wants to do something with that information.

Didn’t Starkiller/Ilum explode?

Anakin Starkiller said:

Ajan Kloss as Teth, let’s go.

I dig it, if someone can make it happen.

Ed Slushie said:

ELAYEM said:

I have thought that pink would be a good color to replace the redundant green of the forest planets (I was inspired by the cherry blossoms from Japan)
I wanted to use that color for Ach-To but I don’t have the ability to make an edit of it

I gave it a try, and am happy with the results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVsnSenoVM&feature=youtu.be

I like this as a first pass at changing up Ajan Kloss, but the grey of the bark makes it look a bit unnatural.

That would be more feasible, except it’s harder for the heroes to escape the First Order and think they’re safe at all from Kylo. Them leaving the planet and hiding (despite being tracked/followed) is a major plot element, especially with how out in the open they are, getting caught/fighting with Zorri Bliss, etc.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Could Pasaana be made into Scarif somehow? I’m just so sick of desert planets.

While I agree with the sentiment, I feel like that would be incredibly difficult. Too much of the terrain is too different.

Maybe it could be modified to be Nevarro? That would be more of a color-correction based change, rather than full replacement. Might even be able to pull an Imperial Remnant officer mentioning Nevarro to use when Kylo is being notified.

I kinda disagree on all of those points 😂

It might be Snoke, but I’d assume that was already underway on Exegol, just as Palpatine’s failed clone (Rey’s father) would already be old enough to conceive Rey. I think this is Moff Gideon’s own separate plan and machination.

I also think the M-Count is a good thing to have there. Love or hate Midiclorians, it makes sense that non-Force Users would search for something biological to replicate to clone Force abilities. Most of the Galaxy is atheistic at this point in time, where the Jedi (who were a major force in Din’s childhood) are all but completely forgotten and The Force is referred to as children’s stories by Han less than 10 years prior. “M-Count” is the scientific explaining away of Force abilities, without having to subscribe to the theological implications of Jedi, Sith, Bendu, Whills, etc.

Ugh, challenging the copyright claims… This is the definition of Fair Use. “Celebration” stayed up, but the other two will need to be re-uploaded unless someone wants to DM me a better way to share. By Gdrive is full because of my sequel trilogy re-edits… 🙃

Brewzter said:

I’m very interested in how this turns out. The only things that I can think of right now are “I Need A Hero” for when Ben arrives to help Rey

I used three different versions of the song… it oddly works? 😂
https://youtu.be/ncR-el-c-_E

Brewzter said:

and “Celebration” at the end of ROTJ

This is odd and funny, definitely not Yub Nub!
https://youtu.be/QNfieiLoT4c

Wexter said:

• Rage Against the Machine’s Killing In The Name for Order 66

My ripped copy of RotS is corrupt. 🙃 This will have to wait until I re-rip it.

Wexter said:

• Losing My Religion for when Luke is being a miserable old git

This worked really well…
https://youtu.be/iOyrJ5EQL2A

Wexter said:

• replace Jedi Rocks with Bowie’s Let’s Dance

It’s too hard to replace Hedi Rocks, as someone is singing onscreen. If I could separate her vocals, I’d have her sing over karaoke version of Let’s Dance.

I was thinking it would be fun to do a version of Star Wars Skywalker Saga movies without the traditional score by John Williams, but rather with a music soundtrack from bands of the general time the films were released (or prior).

I got this idea from the drama behind the film of 1984, where the studio replaced the orchestral score with music by the Eurythmics behind the Director’s and Producer’s backs.

We’d still use John Williams’ score to connect scenes where it doesn’t make sense to have a song, but the goal would be to make Star Wars more like Guardians of the Galaxy with an emphasis on popular songs.

I want to stick to music that could have been used when the film was released, but I understand this is a difficult task even without sticking to period. I want to get creative. I’m pretty sure I can get them all integrated into the film, with sound effects and dialogue intact.

Let me know if you have any music ideas, I’ll post samples of scenes as I work on it.

UPDATE:

Here are some of the scenes redone with songs rather than Williams’ score:

The Phantom Menace

• Qui Gon and Obi-Wan fighting their way out of the Trade Federation trap set to “Kiss With a Fist” by Florence + The Machine.
  https://youtu.be/AM2DZCYOUJA

• Obi-Wan vs Maul set to “One Way or Another” by Blondie.
  https://youtu.be/8RwPPxvsem4

Attack of the Clones

• Hunt for Sam Wesell set to “Intergalactic” by The Beastie Boys.
  https://youtu.be/r-EuCxkPqqA

• Anakin setting off to find his mother set to the beat of “Pain” by 2Pac.
  https://youtu.be/eleAwGVqnQ4

Revenge of the Sith

• Anakin and Padmé reflecting while the Jedi Council goes to confront Supreme Chancellor Palpatine set to “The King Must Die” by Elton John.
  https://youtu.be/i8Y6dkd3258

• Order 66 Montage set to “Pumped Up Kicks” by Foster the People.
  https://youtu.be/Ynb5p6ZBzQc

A New Hope

• Escaping from the Death Star after Ben’s sacrifice set to “Trouble” by Cat Stevens
  https://youtu.be/UA7PktV_8qo

The Empire Strikes Back

• Battle of Hoth set to the “Immigrant Song” cover by Karen O, Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross.
  https://youtu.be/vKO9eTuI6Oc
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• Luke entering the cave on Dagobah set to “Lazarus” by David Bowie.
  https://youtu.be/v-kM5YRd-kc

Return of the Jedi

• Luke vs the Rancor set to “Tainted Love” by Soft Cell.
  https://youtu.be/-oVEbbtffRQ

• Celebrations across the Galaxy set to “Celebration” by Kool & The Gang.
  https://youtu.be/QNfieiLoT4c

The Force Awakens

• Finn & Poe’s escape set to “Make Me Feel” by Janelle Monáe.
  (Blocked in Iran, Syria, Cuba, and North Korea)
  https://youtu.be/uq-xfzvvwxg

The Last Jedi

• Rey watching Luke’s routine set to “Losing My Religion” by R.E.M.
  https://youtu.be/iOyrJ5EQL2A

• Finn and Rose’s arrival on Canto Bight set to Marilyn Manson’s “The Beautiful People”.
  https://youtu.be/EmbBZaWEvjk

• Rey & Kylo vs the Praetorian Guards set to BONES UK’s “Filthy Freaks”.
  https://youtu.be/Go0YNBdZuXg

The Rise of Skywalker

• Ben arriving to help Rey and the Civilian Fleet arriving to help the Resistance set to “Holding Out for a Hero”. I used three different versions of the song, Bonnie Tyler’s original as well as Jennifer Saunders’ and Frou Frou’s covers made for Shrek 2.
  https://youtu.be/ncR-el-c-_E
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• Rey on Tatooine set to “There She Goes” by The La’s.
  https://youtu.be/gC5CX7e1XuA

I think it’s more that the OT depended on off-screen development. Putting the films together requires acknowledgment of that development being skipped over.

Prequels, especially AotC/RotS, take place during a war with the romance tying it together and scenes that kinda show the characters being reunited after a gap in time. This makes a 3-in-1 simpler. The sequel trilogy similarly has two films back-to-back and the next film has a “recap” scene of sorts when Poe and Finn return to Ajan Kloss at the start of the film.

The OT doesn’t have the same kind of connective tissue, it’s much more designed to imply gaps between episodes.

Is this not late 2020? We only have a month and a half to go! Let’s not push January 20, 2021 any further away than we have to…

When I ripped the BDs I forced a constant 23.98fps. It’s always a good step to check frame rate from the start.

rik said:

I have a proposal: it could be possible add using a dub voice or a vocal sintetizer which imitate Palpatine’s voice to explain better the relationship between Palpatine and Rey and the way which Palpatine comes back? I think that these importants passages can’t be explained in extra media like novel or comics. The movie had to be standalone in my opinion, and not explained using “DLC” like a videogame.

I’ve only heard four acceptable impersonators. One, Ian Abercrombie, has sadly since passed away. The others, Sam Witwer, Tim Curry, and Nick Jameson, are all out of the budget I imagine 😅

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Joshieboy said:

What a great improvement over the original! Thanks for your hard work. Dunno if I have the clout here to make suggestions, but I thought I’d shoot for it anyways (given how minor it is).

What if you moved Leia’s body turning to a ghost earlier in the film as opposed to near Kylo’s death? It would keep the consistency of Jedi turning to ghosts immediately after death and wouldn’t conflict with her added “always” ghost dialogue during the Be With Me scene at the end.

Thematically it makes the most sense for her to disappear after Han disappears from Kylo, as that was the last of her life/energy she used: to send Kylo a memory of Han.

I was never big on the Knights’ fan-made dialogue, but I knew there were a lot of people here that loved it.

To me, they shouldn’t have “soul”… especially as they’re just grunts with nothing to do.

I was more concerned with her forced romance with Poe… she’s basically Aunt Harriet from 60’s Batman in this movie.

There wouldn’t be anyone more pleased than me, I just severely doubt it. When it wasn’t on the 4K Saga Collection set, I think that was the end of it for the foreseeable future.

The Crawl is good for broad setting the stage. You don’t want to read too much of the setup, you just want to read the context. If a big action set piece is taking place off-screen with our main character, it’s better to have him describe it than to read it.

Nah, the crawl can establish that he’s looking for Mandalorians there, then start with the cantina scene from Chapter 10, which explains how he got it, then from misgivings to arrival on Trask. This is enough to explain how recently he’s been on Tatooine, and helps connect it to Boba’s assumed reappearance in either this season or the next.

That cantina scene also sets the stage for some of the payoff with “Frog Lady” taking care of the Child. We need at least one moment to connect with her and show that Din accepted the danger, then show how drastically he protected her (even if we don’t see the spiders, etc). It’s a quick scene that does a lot of narrative lifting, and leads us into what will become the first act set piece.

Even if Boba Fett comes back, we still won’t need Din obtaining the armour. Especially if you open on Tatooine with him in the cantina with the armour and mention his search for Mandalorians in the crawl.

This season will have more serialised plot elements, anything you can do to cut things down will help. That’s part of what makes the comedic cut from misgivings to damaged ship so efficient in something like this… cutting out nearly two episodes without having to add anything back from the other season.

It’s less to do with Kathleen Kennedy and more with the markets. Kennedy is not some evil boogeyman that hates Star Wars, let’s not entertain the sexist bullshit against her.

Disney just shifted their entire market strategy to focus on Disney+. When physical media was still the focus for post-theatrical release, it made sense to entice people into re-purchasing, so they added content. Disney is famous for artificially controlling supply and demand with physical media, placing films in the “vault” and re-releasing them with bonus content years later.

Such a strategy doesn’t make sense anymore, people are either subscribed or not. Deleted scenes won’t be enough to get new subscribers, and would only increase piracy (which decreases subscribers). Alternative cuts and new narrative content does draw people in.

That’s why Justice League has a ton of money being spent on it: they’re treating it like a new Max Original series. Compare this to Dawn of Justice, where the alternative cut already existed and could entice new purchases, or Suicide Squad, which has a cut that’s unfinished similar to Justice League but without the ability to draw new subscribers into HBO Max.

With Star Wars, releasing the Theatrical Original Trilogy in 4K would draw in new subscribers, just as new original content like The Mandalorian, The Bad Batch, and other shows are. Deleted scenes aren’t quite enough, and recutting The Rise of Skywalker would be a much larger task and would require Abrams’ collaboration. The cost-to-subscribers ratio wouldn’t be profitable enough for them, even if they could get Abrams to admit his fuckup and come try to fix it.

That was a celebrated film, which makes a huge difference. The worse a film is received, or the more BTS drama, the less likely deleted scenes are to be released.

Also, Star Wars, as a franchise, is able to repurpose and retcon stories across all media very easily. It’s far more likely that deleted plot elements crop up in other media.

It’s less work, more money, and less critical blowback for them to release the OT Theatrical Cuts, or to not release the deleted scenes. The amount of fans that would love the deleted scenes is just too small a number.

It still would be spending money to release things that people “already have”.

People already purchased or subscribed to Disney+. That’s where the focus is. There’s no upside to releasing deleted scenes for a maligned film, it’s either “nothing can save this film” or “the film is worse for not including these scenes!”.

There isn’t a big petition or movement like with Justice League, and even then: it would be far more lucrative to release the 4K OT Theatrical Cuts, which also has more people begging for than these deleted scenes.