JakeRyan17

That gets tricky to colour match, but it’s definitely possible!

The Bad Batch will be great. They didn’t show any kid character like Ahsoka or Ezra, but I assume they’ll add one. It’s primed to set up the earliest transition from Republic to Empire, considering we know it crosses over with Revenge of the Sith (Palpatine’s senate speech in the red cloak.

Love that Fennec is in it, curious if she’ll be used as a villain or hero, considering her heroic/honourable turn in Mandalorian s2. I wonder if there will be other returning characters from other shows.

The EU is done because there are no real possibilities. Adapting those stories, which are far messier than anything Disney has released, is not going to appease anyone—as even if they tried, fans of those novels/books/comics/games will always be pissed that it isn’t how they imagined it.

Acolyte is going to be one of the better ways forward, and I wish more was announced like that: in a different era. As fun as Dave’s and John’s three new shows spinning out from Mandalorian sound, I think it’s time to move away from the sequel trilogy. I enjoyed Rogue One, I look forward to Andor, Kenobi sounds cool, as does the other show. The Bad Batch will be cool, and similar to Clone Wars and Rebels, while the other two animated series, Visions and A Droids Story, will find their audiences too.

I think Leslye Headland’s The Acolyte and, if it’s ever brought back to the table, Rian Johnson’s trilogy going to new eras less connected to the main saga of nostalgia will be the better way forward. But fans will complain regardless. Catering to fans just doesn’t work, if you don’t believe me: rewatch The Rise of Skywalker. We need new things, and fans need to embrace that some things will be different. The more we support the franchise as a whole, the more they’ll invest in giving us new and diverse (both by representation and types of stories) content.

ZkinandBonez said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I think it was, you’re just not looking in the right places.

And as far as people being overlooked, it was Kathleen that brought him over to Mandalorian after she fired Josh Trank and hired Favreau. Mandalorian started as the unproduced Boba Fett movie. Kathleen pulled him to help develop it as a series with Favreau before Star Wars Resistance, and that’s why he was overseeing but not show-running that series. That’s also why he learned to direct from Johnson, because that’s how long ago they were working on season 1.

Like, everyone wants to demonise her or blame her for what they don’t like, but then they don’t credit her for what they do like. She was getting Mandalorian off the ground prior to firing the directors of Solo.

But at the end of the day, as with any film, the director has that final say on set. If you wanna complain about films not getting things right, blame them. Abrams is the main culprit, even if you hated TLJ Abrams signed off on that while he was still shooting TFA.

I just feel like we’re always looking for excuses to blame the woman for what the men do wrong and not to credit her for her astute decisions. Filoni is great, don’t get me wrong… but he’s not the messiah. Film and TV aren’t ever made by just one person.

You’re making a lot of assumptions again. I never mentioned Kennedy by name, nor Abrams or Johnson. I’ve only vaguely criticized the ST in a very general way and I appreciate it if you didn’t compare me to certain angry fans simply because of some very superfluous similarities. I don’t think they’re awful movies, there are many elements that I actually liked, but I’m just not particularly impressed by the overall trilogy and how it concluded.

I stand corrected on several production details though. I didn’t know they were “preparing” Filoni for live-action as early as TLJ. I will say though that I’m somewhat tired of the “film and TV aren’t made by one person” argument. Yes, its true that many people make movies/series great, but directors and show-runners are there to keep all that talent together and keep their input within a cohesive framework so that the final product fits within his/her idea of what the movie/series should be. Filoni’s obviously not the only reason TCW, Rebels or The Mandalorian are good, but he’s obviously one of the main contributors to all of them.

He is. That’s why he was brought in for story meetings prior to TFA. That’s why Kathy brought him over with John to rework the Boba Fett movie into The Mandalorian.

I’m tired of people who don’t work in this industry creating messianic figures out of people. Dave is exceptionally talented, but there was a lot else going on on those films that Filoni could not have fixed, even if he were president of Lucasfilm or CEO of Disney itself.

Cameron Samurai said:

I was thinking somewhat of ‘enhancing’ my “Last Jedi, New Emperor” fanedit from a couple of months back by giving Kylo a new Death Star from Palpatine as well as a new fleet. I’d use Rogue One footage for most of it. If someone one wants to, they can blow it up in a ‘Rise of Skywalker’ edit and that can be the basis for Kylo’s ,last stand against Rey.

You could use the trench run Poe makes in TFA, and mix the footage to make it appear he destroys the Death Star.

I think it was, you’re just not looking in the right places.

And as far as people being overlooked, it was Kathleen that brought him over to Mandalorian after she fired Josh Trank and hired Favreau. Mandalorian started as the unproduced Boba Fett movie. Kathleen pulled him to help develop it as a series with Favreau before Star Wars Resistance, and that’s why he was overseeing but not show-running that series. That’s also why he learned to direct from Johnson, because that’s how long ago they were working on season 1.

Like, everyone wants to demonise her or blame her for what they don’t like, but then they don’t credit her for what they do like. She was getting Mandalorian off the ground prior to firing the directors of Solo.

But at the end of the day, as with any film, the director has that final say on set. If you wanna complain about films not getting things right, blame them. Abrams is the main culprit, even if you hated TLJ Abrams signed off on that while he was still shooting TFA.

I just feel like we’re always looking for excuses to blame the woman for what the men do wrong and not to credit her for her astute decisions. Filoni is great, don’t get me wrong… but he’s not the messiah. Film and TV aren’t ever made by just one person.

I think some of that was Filoni as well. Animation and live action are very different in how they’re made. Filoni was initially nervous to do 3D Animation instead of something he could draw, and also he was untested and it would’ve been a big risk to have him do one of the sequels.

Directing actors in animation is only during a production record, and an entire episode can be done in a day, as opposed to a couple weeks and having to direct an actor’s face to shape into how you’d like it “drawn”.

Like, everyone here hates The Last Jedi, but Filoni credits Rian Johnson with teaching him how to direct actors on a set.

It wasn’t disrespectful for Filoni to learn how to do the job before it was handed to him.

To me, just pretend the Mon Cala actually repair it. He can pay for the repair and then cut to him flying in space all shiny and new, then cut to the repairman contacting Gideon.

The Siege doesn’t have any real character development, whereas Chapter 15 has a big sacrificial moment for him. It may feel like a “side quest”, but he’s giving up his cultural values to save Grogu. That’s huge, and very important to the main story.

I’d keep 15 over The Siege. It has better character development for Din as he gives up wearing the helmet to save the child (which is huge for him). The Siege is pure filler, with only learning about the experiments… but we already knew about that from Season/Film 1.

On a separate note, not sure if this edit is still going or not, but the Lando reel (edited with existing SW footage to give the tone of the show to investors) uses Cowboy Bebop music under it.

It was really fun to see, and that tone may be coming to that series.

ZkinandBonez said:

Anyone else spot Fennec Shand in the trailer? She appears at 0:41 & 0:50. I really like the idea of getting a “Filoniverse” as I’ve heard people call it being the new thing for SW. We are after all getting this animated series and two live action series produced and co-written by Filoni. It’s really good to see that he’s finally getting the big recognition that he deserved and that we have some sense of cohesion and inter-connectivity with the various series.

Has Filoni not been getting respect?

Also, sourcing the 4K BDs messes with the colour space due to HDR. It’s a lot of extra work to deal with.

I just know it’ll be a big enough deal when it comes up. It’s Bo-Katan’s entire motivation, because of the political power, specific to Mandalorians and the planet Mandalore, it will bestow. I feel like cutting it out is undercutting that plot line, which will only become more important as this goes on.

smudger9 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I’d also, still, recommend adding the Darksaber back in. You can cut it in prior to Din leaving the planet, make it more immediately after Gideon crashes. It’s going to be such a big plot element, as it’s such an Excalibur or Akenstone type political allegiance tool for Mandalore, and that’s what Bo-Katan is searching for in s2. It’s too big of a Mandalorian culture moment, and works as a better reveal that he’s still alive rather than the Darktrooper scene.

I actually think the Dark Trooper reveal scene works better because we discover that Gideon is alive at the same time that Mando does. The one issue that The Tragedy has thrown up is the actual Darksaber reveal. It needs to be a big moment and showing it to Grogu doesn’t cut it… so I cut it 😃

https://vimeo.com/487542687

It needs a reveal prior to Bo-Katan though, that’s why I feel it needs to be restored here. If you wait until after, it will need more gravitas than it’ll get, similar to how revealing it to Grogu wasn’t a big reveal. The only way we get a bigger reveal is if Bo-Katan shows back up and she sees it and explains what it is. While that may happen, that’s becoming the end of your third film with it being a minor mcguffin in your second film, when it could just be a tease/reveal he’s alive in the first, which would set up those other stories.

I would bring back season 1’s Tatooine episode (The Gunslinger) and merge it with Chapter 9. Introduces Boba and Fennec together. You could then take the beginning of Chapter 10, and do a comedic cut from it being dangerous to the broken down ship in The Heiress, using that episode as your third act. After, you can use the tag from The Seige as if one of the repair guys in that episode informed Gideon.

Film 2 could be The Jedi, The Tragedy, and the final two episodes.

And I still think the Gideon tag from the end of season one should be put at the end of the season 1 film.

I don’t think we need to see Bill Burr’s introduction, just like Lando’s origin wasn’t needed on screen.

Depending on how these last couple episodes shake out, and how attached you are to the bulk of Chapters 9, 10, and 12, I think you can fit it into a 2-2.5hr film.

I’d also, still, recommend adding the Darksaber back in. You can cut it in prior to Din leaving the planet, make it more immediately after Gideon crashes. It’s going to be such a big plot element, as it’s such an Excalibur or Akenstone type political allegiance tool for Mandalore, and that’s what Bo-Katan is searching for in s2. It’s too big of a Mandalorian culture moment, and works as a better reveal that he’s still alive rather than the Darktrooper scene.

I may be a broken record, but that’s a JJ Abrams lack of vision. Disney just let him do whatever he wanted.

Alternatively, you could find a way to make Starkiller Base something else, maybe even combine it with Exegol? Or just take away the planet destroying nonsense.

You could treat this as a 3-in-1 epilogue film, taking the pieces you liked from all three and morphing them together while still using TFA as the backbone. You’re already blending 7-8, maybe bring some of those other scenes from TLJ up to create a new second act instead of the destruction of the Republic. Make it more about stopping the First Order before they can take control rather than fighting them after the fact.

Movies Remastered said:

That leaves magenta by default.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Tbf, those are the primary colors, so that’s pretty much all bases covered. The next logical step would be secondary colors, so yellow, magenta, and cyan.

There’s already more than enough Cyan in the finale 😂

We all grew up with that, so I get it… just feels weird to me, even weirder than the Warner logo was in front of the Clone Wars movie back in the day.

I mean, in the five most recent Star Wars films, they just do the LFL logo. Fox, especially the “Fox” part is done (“20th Century Pictures” has come back from prior to the Fox merger and “Searchlight Pictures” is rebranded).

I get not using that logo. Personally I’d just use the LFL logo, either green text or shiny metallic… just don’t get crediting extra people who didn’t do anything.

Why add the Fox logo? They didn’t work on it… at all. Even back in the day, Fox only ever distributed. They were never involved with making the films.

Just seems reductive to work actually being done at LFL to be crediting a company that no longer exists and never worked on it to begin with.

I don’t think we’ll come back to Boba this season… that would really surprise me based on how little of the season is left (and assuming that there will be another two-part finale). That gives us one more episodic (which could be Boba, I suppose) before the big finish