JadedSkywalker

It was supposed to be just that Romulus was destroyed in both timelines/quantum realities. But the Discoverse has thrown all that out the window with all their changes to canon. They’ve changed whole backstories of TOS characters and their characteristics or when they joined the crew of the Enterprise, it can’t be the same Prime timeline. Even the Gorn are seen before they are supposed to be seen. They are more the evil unreasoning alien type from the Alien movies. Which isn’t a Star Trek thing, remember Devil in the Dark and how Spock grieved for the Horta.

Anakin probably is closer to Uther Pendragon, and Luke maybe Arthur or Gawain. Ben Kenobi is probably equal part Lancelot, Merlin.

But its kind of a stretch. I think there are more parallels with the Wizard of Oz than Le Morte D’Arthur.

Gandalf the Cyan said:

I, for one, am cautiously optimistic. I don’t want to get my hopes up too high, but she and Knight are both pretty competent.

And yeah, it’s crazy that people are hating on this movie while it’s still in pre-production.

That is exactly what they did to Dial of Destiny, made up a bunch of lies before a single frame was shot. Talked about wokeness and boycotted the movie. And they got their way it effected the box office there is no doubt about it, and they bragged over their victory.

These people were never gonna see the Rey movie anyway, per their channels calling her a Mary Sue. They won’t relent til either Kathy Kennedy is fired or Disney sells Lucasfilm.

Now or in the age of childhood?

Because if i want to be honest my childhood self would pick Temple of Doom. While as an adult i prefer Raiders of the Lost Ark. I’m glad its favorite because i’m not a film historian or professional reviewer to go and say how objectively the films Spielberg has made since Schindler’s are all better more adult faire.

I like the movies he made like Close Encounters, ET, and the Indiana Jones movies and Jaws. The popcorn flicks critics poo pooh and say aren’t worth their time. In the modern era my favorite films of his are Catch me if you can, and Minority Report.

I honestly don’t hate any of his movies except for the remake of War of the Worlds. Though there are some that were so boring i never finished. Most of those were topically political or historical in nature.

One i eventually finished which was a hard watch but was brilliant nontheless , Munich. I never did finish the Terminal or Bridge of Spies, or The Post. Did watch Lincoln more than once. War Horse was great.

Never watched the BFG. That was the kids one he made for Disney.

Is there a place to find this other than myspleen i never migrated my account. Or is it one of those things just for people who donated?

I don’t want to violate rules or further derail the thread if someone has a link please PM me.

CloakedDragon97 said:

I just watched Close Encounters of the Third Kind for the first time. Better practical effects than the original Star Wars trilogy. There I said it.

It should it was done on 65mm negative. Star Wars was on Vistavision 35.

Most of SW effects budget was in building the motion control system. Camera’s/ building optical printers. From what i’ve read they spent all of the 2 million effects budget with one acceptable shot. Whereas Doug did the entire show on CE for 3 million.

I wonder how ILM finished SW, i assume Lucas asked for more money to finish the movie. I do know Lucas held Dykstra responsible.

They only admitted Disco was a visual reboot and that they made some canon changes in SNW. I’m fine mostly with the stuff inside the new Discoprise, the ship doesn’t look like the original on the outside though. And for everyone that said the original look would be impossible or ridiculous Terry had an original Connie design in Picard season 3.

The new design is nice don’t get me wrong its cool, its not the JJPrise, but its still not the ship from The Cage, or TOS.

To me the laziest thing they’ve done is use the Gorn and do an Alien/Aliens type of story. And kind of remaking old episodes like Balance of Terror, or City on the Edge of Forever. Or always going back to the super villain or Khan.

I like Chapel except for the murder episode, but she isn’t Chapel from TOS. And Spock isn’t Nimoy’s version.

I really like the new Uhura, and i sort of saw Laan as Worf/Tasha type. Ortegas feels to me like a Sulu type. the Swashbuckler, brave, daring best pilot. Number 1 was kind of week in season 2, Pike is such a empty character he could easily be cut, all he does is act like the cool uncle or cook in the kitchen he never comes off as a command guy making hard decisions like the Jeff Hunter version. I like Anson Mount but he is way too cool and smooth as a Starfleet Captain, its like they are trying to replicate Shatner Kirk. And that character wasn’t created to be cool, not in the way they do shows today where they insist upon it.

I guess Pike feels to me like Mount is playing Han Solo as dad.

Ordered Dial of Destiny 4K/Blu combo. It has an isolated score. The digital which i already have has everything this does already but i don’t mind double dipping to complete my INDY blu-ray collection. The movie was hated for no reason even before a single second of it was shot. Its fun, its retro. But no its not the best thing ever. I still think people gave Jimmy Mangold a lot of undeserved flack for this flick. And the hate on for Kathy Kennedy is sickening.

Added Tenchi Muyo THX laserdisc box. OBI, film cel everything looks good except the box has some tape damage. This was nearly as expensive as the Star Wars Definitive box with the making of trilogy. 143 plus tax.

But i have basically all the box sets i want now, except for the late reissue of the Urusei Yatsura film special collection, or Bubblegum Crisis late issue box.

I loved the opening and i found it cathartic to have INDY punching Nazis again. Loved the line about the pied piper and blue eyed boys. Its the worst one but it was great to have INDY back. And he was INDY he wasn’t a new Disney version. A little gruff and older rough around the edges but INDY.

SW 70mm mix is a recreation/ upmix the original mag track hasn’t as of yet been preserved.

the 70mm of SW is probably the last real holy grail that hasn’t been scanned/ audio captured.

I liked Strange New Worlds season 2 more than i thought i would but it was very uneven. The first few episodes were good. The cartoon and musical episodes are some of the worst episodes of Star Trek ever, especially those old scientists. I don’t watch Lower Decks, it was pretty cringe. The episode where they murdered the Klingon ambassador was easily the worst of the lot, i didn’t even really mind the riffing on City on the Edge of Forever where Khan’s descendant falls in love with alternate timeline Kirk, or even the one where Spock acts silly because he is fully human.

What did give me a double take was Kirk’s father was first officer on the Kelvin? What that was in the JJverse not Prime, in canon he was supposed to be first officer under April on the first Starship Enterprise and i don’t mean the NX-01.

Added Session 2 of Cowboy Bebop with OBI. Was brand new and sealed until i opened it. Its a cool looking laserdisc. Original Japanese stereo LPCM no 5.1. Features 3 episodes of the series. I think its CLV.

I haven’t read them but based on what we know of them i think George Lucas sequel treatments sucked.

Everyone online is like zomg why didn’t Disney make his sequels.

Whills and Midichlorians and Darth Maul as the big bad are terrible.

The actual trilogy Lucasfilm made under Disney ownership is probably not as bad. But also is disjointed because they wanted to avoid prequel like worldbuilding and politics. And it was a bit of an overcorrection. They really should have shown where the resistance and first order came from, how Kylo Ren came to be and who Snoke was and why Luke failed. And i don’t mean the answers Rise of Skywalker gave.

Superweapon VII said:

Spartacus01 said:

Also, the chronological order is the order George Lucas told us to watch the movies, and there is a reason for that.

Yeah, 'cause he’s a revisionist. Star Wars is the Tragedy of Darth Vader. Star Wars has always been the Tragedy of Darth Vader.

Yeah if you read the story conference for Splinter of the Mind’s eye you know it isn’t true.

But i think he started towards that line of thinking during Return of the Jedi, and if not then at least when he was being interviewed for from star wars to jedi. Then you go all the way up to the year he started writing the prequel and those Leonard Maltin interviews.

People take what he says and believe it when it would be easier to just admit that he Lucas constantly revises.

I don’t begrudge him for wanting the prequel to be different from the OT i can also be critical of it, too much focus on the setting and cgi and not enough on the characters and the plot. Also its not the same fun serial adventure style of the OT.

I watched this behind the scenes thing that aired on 60 minutes which i never saw when it aired someone put it on youtube, the whole thing comes off as Lucas directing a video game not a movie. This is on Phantom Menace. Lucas pointing out all the stuff the animators have to cgi into the movie while he sits in that theater with the journalist.

I’m kind of glad i never saw that and went into the movie not knowing how much of it was green screens and fake cgi backgrounds and characters, because i had no expectations. I would have been like what the heck if i saw the unfinished unflattering behind the scenes as is footage.

Starcrash. I’ve finally watched a sci fi film that is worse than the Star Wars Holiday Special. One of the worst films i have ever seen, worse than At the Earth’s Core even.

I’ve probably said it before but i hate that they killed Anakin Solo making Chewie’s death and sacrifice meaningless. I hate that they ruined Jacen Solo. I hate that they killed Mara Jade Skywalker. I hate Vergere being a Sith, i hate Abeloth, the new Sith tribe and i hate how they ended the story of Callista and i never was a fan of hers.

I actually liked the story in KOTOR but being a videogame where you choose your character is good or evil, male or female its not really something to base a series of films or books on. The games are so loosely connected they don’t tell one cohesive story. And Old Republic is all the more worse for that since it doesn’t really care about lining up with Kotor 2 because Obsidian made it not Bioware. In recent years other than the mostly excellent Legendary Edition of Mass Effect i really believe they deserve the title of BeWare.

The Mcguffin in Dial of Destiny is the worst in the Indiana Jones series. And i thought aliens sucked as a Mcguffin in Skull.

The idea might not be terrible but in execution what a let down.

Are they going to cast actors to play Luke, Han and Leia in Heir to the Empire, deepfake or just plain not use those characters? Personally i think they should just cast actors. Deepfake is so video gamey.

I remember some magazine interviewing Flynn and actually thinking this would be the prequel movies. Can’t remember if it was cinescape or sci fi universe, one of those magazines that always had wild stories of movies and scoops that almost never came to be accurate. They weren’t exactly Starlog. I think Mark Altman and Robert Meyer Burnett came out of that scene.

Superweapon VII said:

I recall seeing the cover art for the Faces set before I watched any of the films. So I wasn’t altogether surprised when it was revealed the alien whose big green face emblazoned the ROTJ tape was Yoda.

I’m jealous of those who got the proper theatrical viewing experience.

I’m quite jealous as well seeing as how i first saw Empire on video cassette in 84. And only saw Jedi in second run in 1985 during its re-release and in a really bad theater. I was fortunate or unfortunate to be old enough to buy tickets to see the 1997 special edition. and Star Wars literally sold out for like a week where i live in 1997.

I wasn’t old enough to see Empire in 80. I wasn’t even born when SW came out in 77. My older brother was basically only 4 months old at the time as well.

I actually liked Padme in Phantom Menace. And other than excusing Anakin killing the Tusken’s she was alright in the second, she is basically just barefoot and pregnant in the third, because they cut out all the scenes where she was a leader. The founding of the rebellion scenes should have stayed in the movie. I also think the scenes with her family humanized Anakin and Padme and should have stayed as well in Attack of the Clones.

Lucas wants the movies to be super fast paced and to never lag. I like the Tatooine scenes with Beru and Owen in II and Anakin’s family. Way too short. Its like he extends the really bad cgi scenes in the prequel and the over the top action and avoids human scenes because he is bad at writing them.

Added Tenchi Muyo OVA funimation blu-ray and DVD set. It is long out of print and usually sells for a hundred and fifty. I scored it for 50 bucks.

Added the first half of the OVA from the Japanese release, and the movie trilogy set was only a hundred total a steal.

Added Star Trek Strange New Worlds season 2 digital.

I also ordered some laserdiscs but apparently they got lost in the mail. Seller is looking for them. All Japan anime without any english subtitles or dubs. I’m kind of not happy because i long wanted that Outlaw Star laserdisc. The second Tenchi movie i have already so that is kind of disappointing because i was trying to build a second set to sell and keep one, but the Sailor Moon R title is so common its not a loss really its like a ten dollar or less item.

Edit: Laserdiscs arrived.

I did receive my Sailor moon disc, and my Galaxy Express Eternal fantasy. As well as my Ah My Goddess Skuld episode in CAV with all the laserdisc inserts and no OBI. And the third Tenchi Movie.

Also preordered Mando season 1 and 2 blu-ray.

Edit: Mando sets arrived shipped in nothing but a paper bag for steelbooks, miracle their was no damage. Nice art cards. Cases hold discs too hard, disks nearly impossible to get off spindle without breaking them, horrible cases. I barely managed it and put them in sleeves.

They also sent my limited anime steelbook yesterday in nothing but a paper bag and it arrived dented. I don’t recommend Amazon. Lowest prices yes, long wait to ship, always packed poorly you play nothing but the roulette wheel of luck to get your books and blu rays in acceptable condition. It was by pure luck my anime arrived from Japan in new and undamaged shape shipped in nothing more than a cardboard envelope for documents, no hard box no bubble wrap.

Under Kennedy’s tenure at Lucasfilm there has been more collaboration and a willingness to delegate seeing how she just elevated Dave. I can’t sweep under the rug all the directors who have been fired or quit over creative differences, and the total lack of most planned movies never getting made. But over all its not the dictatorship of the prequel. Its closer even to the OT where Lucas was willing to listen to other people’s ideas. And got input from them and even delegated to other directors.

Had Lucas made his sequel he should have followed the same process of the original, get other writers. Hire the best editors, take advice from friends. Direct only the first one.