JadedSkywalker

Some interesting Info on how the original and Special Edition mixes were done. But very confusing to the layman who does not work in the industry. It’s a good article despite all that.

Burtt explaining the mono mix being redone from scratch, that I had never known. The initial 35mm stereo being the least complete I have heard that, and I’m very familiar with that mix.

I just received my gatefold laserdisc for Never Say Never Again. And damn it looks brand new for a 41 year old videodisc it is awesome. I might watch that tonight, it’s an unauthorized James Bond by none other than Irvin Kershner. Not bad for 10 bucks. When film tickets are like 20-30 dollars. Inventing in old dvds, VHS or Laserdisc seems quite cost effective.

I can’t wait for my Arrow Lost in Space 4K to arrive. I haven’t seen that in well ages, probably since it came out. Or on VHS.

I was referring to how Obi-Wan did not lie in Star Wars because Darth Vader killed Luke’s father. A young Jedi named Darth Vader who was a pupil of mine before he turned to evil. Helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights, he betrayed and murdered your father.

Now it’s just Kenobi lies all the time. Certain point of view. OH I Never owned a droid, and Yoda was my master wink wink. Except for this guy Gui-Gon. In the prequel he has r4. He does own a droid.

And Anakin never said a thing about wanting his kid to have that Lightsaber he did not even know about Luke’s existence. He knew he a child by Padme that died with her in childbirth. Not Twins.

Well The ROS was focused on Rey like Return of the Jedi was focused on Luke. It’s not the prequel trilogy Kylo is not the main character. Vader was not the central character of the OT either.

Lukes story purpose is given to Rey though, restoring the Jedi order. Passing on what he had learned.

We still don’t know why the New Republic failed or was incompetent and had no army to fight the first order. Or what happened to the Empire. Or is the New Republic going to be restored post ROS since it clearly failed. And Luke, Han and Leia were failures.

I suppose some of these things are described by Disney in novels and comics. Goody more homework. They made Star Wars like MCU. You have to watch a bunch of shows to explain their bad movies. If they even fill in any blanks at all.

The Making of Star Trek III. That just recently came out. I hope more making of Star Trek film books can be done. They should have done one on the Kelvin timeline when Bob Orci was still alive to be interviewed.

They will have to rely on archival material if at all like with Leonard Nimoy for Star Trek III. He is not around to be interviewed.

The best book on TMP is unauthorized Return to Tomorrow. No images were allowed as part of its publication. It could have used editing.

They only need to make a book on Star Trek IV, V already exists in Lizbeth Shatner’s book on the making of that film but could use updating. VI is a combination of articles and not a book proper by Mark Altman they should redo that one or expand it. There is no making of Generations, There is one on First Contact. None on Insurrection or Nemesis. There is one on the art and making of 2009 from JJ Abrams but no making of Into Darkness. No making of Beyond.

When watching some of the visions I was thinking of Captain Future and Ulysses and Star Blazers and stuff like that. None of this stuff comes close to that. I thought the first Ronin Episode of Visions was better than the second.

I watched this short. BUT I don’t know what to think of it. The 9th Jedi has decent animation I suppose.

Lots of different styles from different studios. Reminds me of animatrix or that Batman project where they had different submissions from different animation houses.

I’m not saying I hate Legends aka Visions. But I’m more likely to dip back into Leijiverse and watch Galaxy Express 999, Captain Harlock. Space Battleship Yamato.

I will say an actual series with a dedicated budget, like if it’s actually supported and not done on the cheap could be good.

Seeing how Disney is slashing the budget of Ahsoka season 2 what can animation hope for. The days of Clone Wars level budgets is likely gone. I wonder if they give Dave Filoni peanuts to make Darth Maul Shadow Lord.

I got The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi Evergreen Japanese releases Sample copies laserdisc with OBI. One is sealed. I got Mamoru Oshii Complete Works laserdisc with OBI primarily for the Urusei Yatsura films. I got Fairy Tale Dragon Cry region 2 DVD. Star Trek III region 2 dvd Lowry 2009 DVD. Maclunky Star Wars the original trilogy, The Disney trilogy both are region 2 used. Mary Poppins Returns region 2 used. Seller did not have the prequel trilogy. Star Wars was ten bucks for the entire OT 2020 Disney DVD. Of course, it’s the 4th special edition and not the original.

I also got Never Say Never Again Japanese Gatefold with no OBI. All of these were items on discount or I haggled on the price. Except for Mamoru Oshii complete works that was super expensive. But I now have Beautiful Dreamer and Only You in Letterbox and I won’t need the reissue of The Perfect collection I own already in 4:3 format. Just for the reissue of those.

Yeah on the Seven Dogs war they are in CLV instead of CAV but that late issue 1997 set goes for hundreds of dollars. This with Patlabor 1 and 2 and Angels Egg and such is a better value.

Well the Phantom Menace certainly could be restored from the camera negative. But going back to that instead of the filmout tape, will never be done. 2000 or more shots? and nearly every shot altered digitally in some way. You are talking about remaking the movie from the camera raw.

There would be diminishing returns to redo II and III. They have digital masters. They could certainly bring back the theatrical color timing for Episode II, and remove the DNR they applied to both II and III.

Re-rendering already 2k resolution images for 4K would make little sense.

There are cheaper solutions for Phantom Menace go back to the filmout tape before the DNR processing for the 3D conversion or use an interpositive/internegative.

Also why not restore the theatrical cut with Creepy Puppet Yoda. And the same timed edit as 1999.

You’d be surprised just how many shows have vanished audio or video masters, or they simply were junked and thrown away. If they aren’t just lost somewhere and or mislabeled.

I’m speaking of anime in general I don’t have any idea about Toei in general. It does disgust me, that they continue to upscale videotape if they do have film sources to scan and restore.

R.I.P. June Lockhart. Lost in Space and Lassie.

I was not alive in the 60s. I watched reruns decades later on television of Lost in Space.

If we can get the original Star Wars trilogy in 4K why stop there. Restore American Graffiti and THX 1138. From the techniscope negatives.

Yeah, that will never happen but It would be a nice thing. We could just pretend the existing 1998 cut in 4K slathered with DNR for American Graffiti does not exist.

What was the story? he returns as a light side Jedi for Reylo. Is that it. Rey has a bunch of Skywalker kids. They all live happily ever after.

Meanwhile the ghosts of Luke, Han and Leia do what. Time to party.

The entire Disney trilogy is a disaster. Follow through on your decision and make that Rey movie or don’t.

The only one I’ve used frequently is Paramount plus and the quality is less than desired for old shows like Star Trek Deep Space Nine and Voyager.

The compression issues and the problems watching videos over a Wi-Fi connection. I can’t speak to a wired connection.

When there is not issues TNG remastered, TOS remastered, Enterprise in HD are all excellent. Frasier the old version in HD is a blast.

I hated Strange New Worlds season 3 I never finished it, I also never finished the second season of the Frasier continuation It was lame.

true I was one of the people that requested episode 2.5. I had been in one of the pif chains back in the day and shared these with a few people. Along with the darth editous hybrid. and I had been given by a former friend rips of ADM extended editions superman edits. I think most of those discs are junk now.

If Luke did not return from the netherworld of the force in Episode 9 the Rise of Palpatine, there is no way dollar store Jacen Solo is coming back.

2009 PAL DVD for Star Trek IV and First Contact. These are Lowry masters,lol. They were also under ten dollars each.

I have too many even of the terrible Lowry master. I have the region 1. and a mix of region 2 and 4 for Pal format. Plus i have the region 2 Japan. As well as the gout DVD bonus discs for each.

I have every edition on DVD except 2011 and 2020 the last two special editions. Not every region do I have nor every language territory. There are a lot of various foreign releases.

I actually like Lucasfilm laserdiscs more than DVD because you can get the Theatrical versions except for SW 1977, with the caveat you can get the 1981 cut. You can get THX 1138 1977 cut, you can get American Graffiti 1978 cut without any added cgi redone sunset or new title card.

So far I have everything I want except for THX 1138, Tucker the Man and his Dream. Radioland Murders. Howard the Duck I don’t have that,lol.

Melody is a lovely woman. I’m happy for him. That Museum looks beautiful and is a quite an achievement. He looks good and healthy for an 81-year-old man. With a bit of a paunch. Nice suit but he has his plaid shirt under it. Who does not love George for his sweaters and plaid shirts. His known attire of tennis shoes.

Other than withholding the originals from the fans. He seems like a genuinely nice person. He does a good deal for charitable causes.

I really love Jamie’s projects. Thanks for this Jason.

Are they doing the original VistaVision first gen material. Because that would be like Oh my god. You have no idea how many years I’ve wanted to see those scanned at the highest resolution.

Seeing other films restored from VistaVision its quite amazing actually.

And the idea they found all the so-called lost trims and CRI that was claimed to be junked.

Were we lied to or mislead for years. Or did they really not know where all this material was.

doubleofive said:

JadedSkywalker said:

Verboten said:

It’s darkly amusing to me that I’m already reading stuff about this release, like re-composited effects shots and alternate dialogue takes, that means it won’t pass some peoples’ purity test.

Yeah. The Indiana Jones 4K was recomposited according to Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader.

I started a VisComp, Indy was not recomposited, the bluescreen elements have been rotoscoped from the final composite and stretched and warped to cover up the matte lines. It’s hilarious in A/B comparisons.

That’s not what we’re seeing here.

I stand corrected. So What they cgi rotocoped them? It’s like having to play Columbo.

I hope they hire Mike Matessino and Neil S Bulk to do the John Williams scores. That would be a dream. But It won’t happen.

Verboten said:

It’s darkly amusing to me that I’m already reading stuff about this release, like re-composited effects shots and alternate dialogue takes, that means it won’t pass some peoples’ purity test.

Yeah. The Indiana Jones 4K was recomposited according to Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader.

I remain skeptical but hopeful. They won’t do a total botch job like Maclunky right? or American Graffiti 4K.

Lowry can go under a new name but Lowry will Lowry. Reliance Mediaworks. They did the 4k UHD 2020 edits.

I merely assume the 2012-2013 scan and DNR that was done to it was for the 3D conversion. And they did not have a version pre of the DNR and post processing?

To quote Jyn Erso. Rebellion’s are built on hope. I only say that with as much pessimism as I can, in as tongue in cheek A way as I can.

Someone else will say it with conviction. I’m a glass half full/ doubting Thomas on this original trilogy getting restored business.

A physical disc release in Dolby Vision that Sony doesn’t charge a million dollars for in UHD please and thank you. That is what I want. To be able to buy them one time and to not have to buy them again.

I’m still not convinced and won’t believe it’s real until a release happens.

We go through this like once a decade and no release happens.

The only slight difference is Disney did not own Fox until 2019.

If a release was to happen it would have been planned since 2020 or so.