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#1672938
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⭐ Star Wars' <strong>50th anniversary</strong> in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations <em>(if any)</em>...
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benduwan said:

Who is ALI?
Is this part of Disney?
Will Disney restore and clean all the Star wars Film reels?

Good question. From what I understand they are only doing the original cuts of the original trilogy, but I’m not in the know. Lucasfilm itself has archived a lot of audio and visual material through the years. The Lucasfilm archives is massive. George kept everything from THX 1138 to whatever his last film was. If it existed on film, it’s in the cold storage vault most likely.

I assume they are not doing the 1997 and later edits of the Special Edition or the prequel films. This Ali group whoever they really are Disney internal or external company?

Which scan was used in Light and Magic? obviously not the current restoration.

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#1672919
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Poor quality CGI and CGI-affected shots &amp; scenes in the <strong>Prequel Trilogy</strong> films…
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I think the sheer number of shots, thousands of effects shots. wouldn’t have been possible on the money and time they needed to be done in without CGI. But they should have done more practical effects and done a mix. Lucas was determined to push digital though, even when it looked wonky and made no sense. Because it was about getting there eventually, where everything would be digital like it is now.

He was pushing for shooting digitally when it looked like ass, cameras meant for news footage. Episode II will never look good. on III they got the technology a little bit better. But they will never look as good as 35mm shot movies on film.

The part that makes no sense to me is George decided no Clone Trooper suits. It had to be faked in cgi.

General audiences did not care the films look like animated cartoons in places or CGI animated. Lucas was able to get away with it because you don’t linger on a single shot. so the fact some of the renders don’t hold up, whatever they go by at 24 frames per second. Yeah, you can pause the movie at home now in 4K. and say good lord who approved this shot it looks terrible.

There were sets and miniatures and it wasn’t all cgi. Yes we know about the location shooting and miniatures. But the overwhelming amount of the movie was shot on greenscreen with a digital backlot, and actors shot separately from one another as elements. Actors acting to nothing, doesn’t help.

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#1672791
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⭐ Star Wars' <strong>50th anniversary</strong> in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations <em>(if any)</em>...
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I won’t be satisfied until there are 4K UHD discs we can own in our homes. To me a limited cinema release is exciting, but not the end goal. The GOUT DVD should be retired at long last. It would be nice to get the whole trilogy, and if no processing or DNR which would be a first for Lucasfilm, we can finally retire decades old laserdiscs.

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#1672780
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What do you think of the <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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I think that was about making the force more democratic as it were, Rey being a nobody and not having to have magic mutant blood or be the scion of demigods.

JJ on the other hand would have been fine with making her Luke’s daughter or Kenobi’s, and settled on Palpatine as the answer.

Because people complained and said where does she get all these overpowered abilities, like she has god mode, a cheat code within a video game. How does she get the better of Kylo Ren when he was trained by Luke and Snoke, etc. and they will bring up how Luke was just a farmboy who had little or no training, when he rushed to face Vader on Cloud City. And lost a hand. A Young Rebel in the Rebellion, who somehow could just abandon his post as a commander in the military, to go to Dagobah. that makes no sense. Han leaving to pay off a death mark makes sense. Those are complaints about the original trilogy and not the sequels.

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#1672204
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What do you think of the <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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I neither like nor understand Disney’s Luke Skywalker. He isn’t the same character that exists in the original trilogy and the expanded universe.

I’ve completely soured even on his limited deepfake appearances as well. Who does he still have a glove on his hand and didn’t get his prosthetic hand repaired. Nothing Disney did with the character made sense.

I can only enjoy Last Jedi as a what if tale. But everything else they’ve done with the character sucks.

First order and Resistance instead of New Republic and The Empire is nonsense. It was just a lazy reset. Should be hundreds of Jedi. No there was only two left one on the light and one on the dark side, and then only one.

The myopic lack of lore or backstory/ worldbuilding. The sequels have great art direction and cinematography; being shot on film they look great. Last Jedi was also digital but, you know what I mean. They have a good cast and relatively good to less than good acting, and good music scores. But they don’t add to the Star Wars mythos. They are completely like what James Cameron said, retreading old ground offering nothing new.

I think they are better than George’s proposed sequels, but water is wet. We still don’t have a sequel of merit, that makes sense or is good. That isn’t fanfiction. You have two vastly different fanfictions, the one in Legends. You can just ignore the bad books you don’t like. And the one Disney made. The alleged canon sequel. The one where all our heroes died and were nothing. Universe refreshed and reset with all new Disney characters we sort of like, I suppose. I didn’t mind them. But Luke and Han and Leia are basically just cameos, and could easily be written out of the story.

Without reference to the OT the Disney trilogy could have been set in any era. They merely brought back Mark, Carrie and Harrison to get older people to pay money to see these movies. And it worked for that trilogy at least. But Carrie is gone. and they killed off Luke and Han, and Mark and Harrison are both older and done. Literally what is there to return for Gen X fans. If you go to see Star Wars for Luke’s adventures. Nada. Not even whatever the prequel trilogy was. A promised backstory for Luke’s father and Ben Kenobi.

The franchise is all member berries and nostalgia. The framework is set. its Episodes 1-6. Where can you go with a story with no defining characteristic, and no central hero to anchor the viewer. I related to Luke, he was like the story avatar for the film viewer. Just like you go with Frodo and Sam on their Journey to Mordor, watching Lord of the Rings. I do not relate to any of the new characters, nor did I relate to Hayden Skywalker in the prequel. It’s why for me the original trilogy is fundamental; the prequel is at best supplemental, and not necessary. The sequel trilogy is like a legends reboot on film, or Star Wars Infinites.

I think the second two Star Wars trilogies have major issues. The OT isn’t perfect or holy writ, but it has relatable and likable characters and even though it has ropey dialog. it doesn’t have anything near the awfulness of the prequel. There is a more natural way people talk. And of course, unlike the sequel trilogy you don’t get they fly now, or somehow Palpatine returned. The most ridiculous line is probably, a certain point of view.

A critical as I am of George Lucas he might have a point, and Mark Hamill had a point. The Saga has a beginning, a middle and an end. The original is about Luke. The prequel is about the downfall of Anakin Skywalker, as poorly as it was done, regardless. that was Lucas intention. Unless you do a sequel where you have a period of rebuilding and democracy restored, I don’t see a point. The Jedi thriving and vibrant under the New Jedi Order of Luke Skywalker. And how difficult it is to keep the peace. And the threat of the return of evil. It basically would be like Tolkien’s return of the shadow, that he never completed.

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#1672092
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Last movie seen
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The Last one i watched was Daisy Ridley in an action movie The Cleaner. I didn’t finish It. It was kind of ridiculous like a Die Hard movie without Bruce Willis. I guess Martin Campbell is stuck making these really bad low rent movies now. Not exactly Goldeneye is it or Casino Royale.

I also watched the tv movie Farscape the peacekeeper wars. In two parts.

I have The Mask from Arrow and Lost in Space and TMNT trilogy should be here in a matter of days but I haven’t watched any of them yet.

I also mean to watch some of these Marvel and DC movies or even the new Jurassic World and I’ve never gotten around to it, you know its not a priority. I still have to watch the last Avatar never mind the newest one. I’ve barely digested the last Spider-Man movie, and they have another coming out. Another Avengers. The days of watching one or two new films a week. Its not the 1990s. I always look at what a month of streaming costs, the costs of physical media and the cost of film tickets and I groan.

My book and film and video game, tv show/anime/manga backlog is so vast I can’t have fear of missing out. I used to care to catch every new film. Now maybe by the time I get around to watching something, It is more appreciated and Its not 30 gd dollars to watch once. The caveat of course being boutique labels and their insane prices. The Criterion and Arrows. Pick a few films can’t afford them all.

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#1672091
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Last web series/tv show seen
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Some old shows on free streaming. I think that 1990s Journey to the Center of the Earth. I can’t remember what else they had Star Trek maybe. Farscape. One show I was looking for the 1990s Adventures of Sinbad produced in Canada it was a show that competed with Hercules I couldn’t find that.

1990s was Sliders, Star Trek. and stuff like The New Adventures of Superman. Hercules and Xena. The shows were low rent by todays standards. There was no film quality visuals on a weekly show.

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#1672089
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Reactions to Yoda and The Emperor in 1980
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You mean theatrically I didn’t see it in the theater. I saw it on a rental cassette I guess you call that VHS. 1984 Was it?

It was the first Star Wars I saw so I had no expectations at all. I grew up on the Muppets and Sesame Street so Yoda being a puppet did not phase me. I was young enough to suspend disbelief and to pretend he was real.

I just remember certain aspects like the Snow Walkers and Luke suspended upside down in the Wampa cave. Facing that Vision of Vader in the Cave that is Luke in the mask.

Luke trying to lift an X-wing with his mind. Knowing he could just barely float the lightsaber to him to escape the Wampa cave.

The Fade in of the Emperor hologram. The speech where the Emperor intones there is a great disturbance in the force, we have a new enemy, Luke Skywalker. The Son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.

Then I finally saw Star Wars and oh yeah that is the dude who was a ghost in the Empire Strikes Back, Old Ben. He tells Luke about the force how he used to go by the name of Obi-Wan before Luke was born. Things didn’t really click until I saw return of the jedi in the theater and finally went back and rewatched the first film. Once all three films were on video there was a certain continuity if you will. Whether they were originally intended to be one piece, you had Mark Hamill age between each film and you watched Luke grow up.

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#1671780
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Nolan’s Homer’s Odyssey
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The trailer for Nolan’s Odyssey not impressed. You can’t see a darn thing. they revealed nothing in it.

If I was to be asked point blank and to be blunt, it sucked.

If they remove all the mythological elements that would suck amongst all.

The Cyclops story, the story of the Sirens all of that is a huge part of the tale. Do you remove Calypso.

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#1671779
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What do you think of the <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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Yoda was testing Luke in TESB. His being a curmudgeon and strange character was an act. That whole ill tempered gnome thing, Luke was expecting a Jedi Master to not be a little Muppet. Judge me by my size do you, well you should not. For my ally is the force and a powerful ally it is.

The boy has no patience. Much anger in him like his father.

Yoda’s reluctance is in knowing Luke’s nature he is like Anakin. And He says he is too old to begin the training.

Luke is giving a stern warning about the dark side. It did consume his father.

All your life have you looked away, to the future to the horizon. Never your mind on where you were. What you were doing. Adventure. Excitement. A Jedi craves not these things. You a reckless.

And Yoda was right Luke abandons his training, and rushes to face Darth Vader to save Han and Leia and saves no one. He has to be saved by Chewie, Leia and Lando. Vader toys with him like cat with a mouse in that duel on Bespin, Vader could have slain him at any moment. That was not a duel of equals not really, Vader held back. Luke was impelled by his rage and got his butt whooped. Lukes anger and hatred of Vader was based on lie told by Kenobi. Vader betrayed and murdered your father.

So Rey is not Luke in TESB and Luke is not Yoda. Though Disney wanted Kylo to be a wannabe Vader. And you get Imperial Walkers again.

Luke’s summon to the call to adventure in Star Wars 1977 was Leia’s message from Artoo. What was Rey’s I’m not even certain. Other than Beach Ball 8 having the map to Luke Skywalker. Which they act like was important or something, like Luke was on a search or something to help defeat Kylo and the first order. And he just went to the furthest away planet to die.

Luke’s throwing Anakin’s lightsaber over his shoulder and denying Artoos pleas with Leia’s old message is refusal of the call in the Last Jedi.

What do you think I’m going to do, face down the entire first order with a laser sword. Go Away.

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#1671730
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What do you think of the <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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The Force Awakens is very self-aware with Han even acting like Starkiller base is an even bigger death star. Well you know its one of the things I dislike about that film, why redo Star Wars from 1977. I mean I understand in tone wanting an adventure film like the original, instead of the prequel. But it came off as new coke. They tried to replicate the original recipe. They sometimes claim imitation is the sincerest form of flattery but I’m not sure I agree.

Even I was fooled I saw the film 3 times. It was a joyous and empty piece of film, popcorn cinema. It works on dopamine alone. Because you know that original 1977 film is Star Wars written large. That is Star Wars. Now it wouldn’t work, the sequel woke people up. They won’t fool people again.

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#1671713
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What do you think of the <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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Destruction of the legacy characters is at the top of my list. But I’d also place the reset of the Star Wars universe near the top too. Suddenly we know nothing of the Imperial Remnant or the New Republic, and all of sudden we have a first order and resistance, so Disney can be lazy and do rebels vs empire again. We are also lead to believe Luke Skywalker completely failed in rebuilding the Jedi order, and there are no Jedi left, except for Kylo on the Dark Side and Rey on the light. This makes no sense. Disney’s sense of what balance of the force is not George’s. It is not equal light and equal darkness. Darkness rises and light to meet it. Someone was a little too in love with Filoni Mortis.

Most of the issues I have with the trilogy are with the force awakens and the rise of skywalker. There a few only in the last jedi. JJ reset the universe back to where it was in the original film. and ended the trilogy in the same place as Return of the Jedi this is a failure.

I only accept Last Jedi as a standalone and not an extension or Sequel to Return of the Jedi and certainly not a part of a trilogy. But there are actual story beats within it, even if disagree with some of them. JJ did Star Wars greatest hits and tried to make fanfilms. Nostalgia pieces. Without taking any risks. Without any narrative heft, no worldbuilding. No exposition as to why our heroes fell and failed. You just have to accept they were replaced by new Disney heroes.

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#1671351
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George Lucas's Sequel Trilogy
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The one I dislike Is Darth Maul alive. I still think he died in the Phantom Menace. Though its hard to see how it could be as bad as Disney’s return of Sidous. Somehow Palpatine returned. I don’t know if I could even enjoy the novelty of it if I wasn’t familiar with Dark Empire and aware how bad an adaption of that comic the film was.

Luke to Rey a Jedi’s weapon deserves more respect. The entire film was a course correction of the Last Jedi. Luke lifts the ship out of the water. Rey learns she is a Sith by birth in her bloodline. Decides to reject her heritage and adopt the Skywalker/ Jedi lineage.

Is the Darth Maul idea of Lucas a Black Sun or a Crimson Dawn kind of thing.

I think the story should have been about Luke being a father. And the legacy of Vader. Of course, I’m not a screenwriter I don’t make those decisions.