I meant Seb Shaw was last seen in 1997 and not since. I realize Hayden was added in 2004. Glad to see it’s what everyone wanted since like the DVD format began. No alterations just the original films.
I saw the Amazon He-Man trailer. So far I’m not too keen on it. It was more goofy than anything. Looks low budget and like a lot will be cgi. Does not work without the He-Man music or by the power of grayskull.
I will give it a chance because I liked Bumblebee more than Bayformers. Same director. Travis Knight.
I dislike midichlorians, but I do like the idea of the cosmic force and living force. So I’ll give George that. But without showing or explaining his concept of the whills, its completely alien and will remain so since his sequels were never made.
Would it be more weird science stuff trying to explain a concept of faith and mysticism. Like the occult and vaguely religious aspects of Indiana Jones becoming about aliens.
One thing I can think of is it will be nice to sit down and watch a restored original trilogy if we get a physical release. And for the first time since 1997 not seeing Hayden Christensen in Return of the Jedi. That will be worth it alone.
Even better reverting Jedi Rocks and Victory Celebration and going back to Lapti Nek and Yub Yub.
And it will be nice to have the experience one wanted in 2004 but was denied, the ability to watch the OT without prequel added things. Prequel intrusions. Restore the dialogue of Clive Revill and Jason Wingreen. Bring my shuttle line restored. Get rid of all the cgi Millennium Falcon shots. Cgi X-wings. in the original film.
Remove Greedo shooting.
Make sure Vader does not yell noooo, like in 2011.
Remove blinking Ewoks on Endor, and cgi door at Jabbas on Tatooine. Restore the original Krayt dragon call of Obi-Wan. No rocks in front of Artoo.
Don’t hire whoever did the deliberate creative decision soundmix on the 2004 dvd.
Without being able to read them and I don’t think Paul Duncan has read them. All we rely on is George’s telling of what they were to Paul and to James Cameron.
They are under lock and key at Disney and you would likely have to sign an NDA even if they would let you read them.
If I could read his story treatments would I go that is a cool idea. or wow this is so stupid even Disney did better.
Darth Maul being the big bad and midichlorians are baffling to me as being serious decisions.
Darth Talon belongs in the legacy era. 137 ABY is when Legacy is.
Luke still being in exile is exactly what Disney did, and if the doctrine of no attachment holds, how is he not the same as Last Jedi Luke just different. Niece and Nephew, no children of his own that reflects the prequel. those prequel jedi teachings were flawed. a new jedi order should reject them.
I pictured a different movie in my head from watching the OT. along with all the outside pre prequel lore. I don’t know if I hate the prequels, but they aren’t the movie I pictured. the slow seduction to evil. Vader hunting down and destroying the Jedi. the Clone Wars. I got almost nothing as expected.
You make assumptions based on the movies we had, like of course Yoda will be Obi-Wan’s master he says so in the Empire Strikes Back.
As much as I hate or dislike the handling of the legacy characters in the sequel trilogy I can just reject them and read my expanded universe novels. The prequel needs a page 1 rewrite to fit the lore of the unaltered OT.
It’s very obviously it was all made up on the fly and the Saga of Darth Vader is a lie. Its a valiant and creative way to alter the trajectory of the Saga and rejigger it to have always been about Vader but for me it does not work. Star Wars from the adventures of Luke Skywalker.
The only part that sort of fits with Lucas ideas and goes back to the 70s is Ben and Vader fighting over a lava pit.
Almost nothing from the 1980s prequels ideas survived into the prequels. If you read the Rinzler book on the making of Return of the Jedi, anyone can use the force and Yoda is like a Yoga master guru. No mention of a lightsaber wielding Yoda.
No mention of mutant magic blood. Midichlorians. No chosen ones. No forbidden love. No doctrine of attachment.
The teaser trailer isn’t doing anything at all to grab my interest.
This and Dave taking over Lucasfilm is as exciting as watching the grass grow.
Star Wars is saved everybody.
The first episode was certainly interesting and different. The second one was very Star Trek 90210. Is the whole show going to be like a high school drama and romance or will they ever go into space on a starship.
It does not feel very Star Trek there is no exploring strange new worlds. Its a show about school kids.
I honestly don’t understand the Kurtzman era they are just obsessed making everything but Star Trek.
Then even had a show Strange New Worlds a prequel to TOS and completely wasted it on situation comedy and live action cartoons, musicals and apparently, they want to do a puppet show. Why? Not to mention the constant romance subplots like a CW show.
When you go to watch Star Trek you expect Star Trek not Vampire Diaries.
And when no one likes any of the new shows the refrain is you all just want endless TNG continued. It sounds an awful lot like the Disney Star Wars people, you just expect the OT to continue forever. No in both cases we expected Star Trek, We expected Star Wars.
Prequel trilogy, easily. I liked Force Awakens enough, especially when it first came out, and if Abrams made the entire ST as a continuation then I would probably like it better. I despise Attack of the Clones and The Last Jedi, and Rise of Skywalker is bad but extremely fun to watch.
Phantom Menace is bizarre and sags in places, but has some excellent setpieces like the podrace and the lightsaber duel. Insanely good sound design. Jar Jar and kid Anakin are irritating, Padme is a non-character, but Obi Wan and Qui Gon are very likeable and I appreciate all their scenes.
I also really liked Otoh Gunga the underwater City being like the old Flash Gordon comic. And I liked Mos Espa.
I like the design of the City of Theed looking like Athens. Or Naboo is vaguely Tibetan and roman. You get the sense from the deleted scenes that Padme’s people are a cultured and learned people. But we don’t learn anything about them. We don’t know why Sidious hates the Naboo. Or why there is space taxes and tariffs.
I like the design of the Naboo N1-Starfighter. And I really do like The scene where the door opens and music of Duel of the Fates begins. And Maul makes his appearance. As to the sound design the AC3 laserdisc is the best the film has ever sounded. It does indeed lag. My opinion is the theatrical edit without any of the extended scenes is the best version. Is it perfect no, but Ben Burtt edit is better than Lucas later DVD version, which was followed by the blu-ray version with cgi Yoda. Which is the same version on the 4K UHD.
The scenes with Anakin learning about Padme and meeting her family should have stayed in but they slow down the pace of Attack of the Clones. The scenes where Padme begins the rebellion in Revenge of the Sith should have been reworked or reshot to be better and stayed in the movie. I wanted a bigger Wookie ground battle in Revenge of the Sith. More for Chewie to do if he had to be in the prequels at all. Though maybe not having a Han Solo Tarzan like character in him being orphaned and raised with Chewie is probably the best. Good for Lucas cutting that.
On one hand the idea of Palpatine being revealed to be Anakin’s father I like that idea, and on the other hand it is better to be implied like Lucas did. I think the Opera scenes works even if the mention of midichlorians I find repulsive.
On one hand I love the visual of Vader being born on a table and Padme dying at the same time, except for the fact she was supposed to live until Leia was very young. It creates a problem with ROTJ.
The way Anakin is imprisoned in that suit is very poetic. On one hand the suit keeps him alive and on the other hand it deprives him of his humanity. He is Frankenstein’s monster. He chose to go to the dark side and he is living in hell and torment. He was willing to do all of that if Padme had lived, his choices cost her the one life she had.
All he has left is his rage and hatred. Of Obi-Wan, The Jedi and even the Emperor who holds his leash. In the end Lukes gives him purpose again and for one moment he becomes a Jedi. Lukes’s compassion and mercy should have ended in his death. Throwing away his weapon at the moment. on the second death star. And it instead turns the tide. Luke reaches Anakin within a dying Darth Vader. Who takes the Emperor and throws him into the depths.
Yes, some of that may be true with the upcoming Darth maul Shadow lord. It does appear to feature Darth Talon. Lucas sequel being mined.
Dave has continued doing Star Wars since 2008. For good or ill he has had a bigger stamp on Star Wars than George Lucas for the last two decades. Lucas having not written or directed a Star Wars since 2005. Filoni been there for over 17 years. 17 years nonstop working in SW.
The prequel trilogy and George stepping away after that to let Filoni run the Clone Wars was ages ago.
Then he wanted to do live action Star Wars like a tv producer and have other people write and direct it, Star Wars underworld.
Then not being able to get Underworld made and not thinking he could adjust to the coming streaming landscape he sold to Disney.
Oh I got these treatments In a drawer, maybe Iger will give me 4 billion for them. That is what I think he may have thought.
I would have liked to see more of Obi-Wan and Anakin’s relationship to get an insight into what Ben said in Star Wars to Luke in conversation. I don’t like how it’s just Obi-Wan is a liar. But now that is my accepted belief with A certain point of view.
I understand he built up the idea of the Jedi as guardians of the peace and great warriors to get a young man like Luke interested. He wasn’t exactly going to say your father was a butcher, who used this very lightsaber to slaughter younglings. Please come with me to Aldaraan, by the way the girl in the image projected by Artoo is your sister.
Darth Vader the right hand of the Emperor and fascist overlord is your father. Murderous psychopath and half robot because I sliced and diced him and he fell into lava.
Your father was not a good pilot, he accidentally destroyed the trade federation ship when he was 9 years old. He was always whining and never followed my lead. The older Anakin got, the more insistent he was on breaking the rules, and we Jedi built him up as the chosen one so he could do no wrong. We denied him love and companionship because it is attachment. took him from the only family and mother he ever knew. and told him not to fall in love with a woman, driving him to betray our order.
The one thing George was consistent about 25% of the movie he wanted to make. Why there were 4 special editions? I can understand to a certain extent the idea of this was my original vision. Greedo shooting first could have been achieved in 1977 if that was the intention.
So I don’t believe in the original vision BS. Though I will admit Lucas likely had to make compromises, on technology and money and time. And did not get exactly what was envisioned in his head.
What a delight, Rian is contradicting KK. He was not spooked or scared by the reaction to The Last Jedi.
His response on X.
Lol zero spooked, sorry.
Other than enjoying the last third of the movie and Sidious machinations and liking the scene in the opera house, you won’t find me defending Revenge of the Sith. Each of the prequels has its moments which are difficult to positively describe without knocking them down for bad dialogue in the scripts, and I mean it’s some of the worst writing I’ve ever read in a screenplay. The films seem to be chock a block full of special effects, and characters seem to take a back seat to them.
With further development of the screenplays and a good dialogue writer, perhaps the films could have been better. But they would always be compared to the OT and to be found wanting, because their style is different, they aren’t that swashbuckling fun adventure movie Star Wars 1977 is. In media res. No they are too bogged down in space politics. Like in Phantom Menace Space taxes.
The high style dialogue and wooden politicking seem to be a deliberate choice. The Jedi sitting around in their councils, Palpatine sitting in his Chancellors office. It is rather boring.
for Space Opera serial there is very little Jedi action in the trilogy beyond the 3 lightsaber duels. Way too much dialogue standing around and talking. I didn’t write it. I would have had them visit lots of different cultures and planets getting into adventures, or the films would have been about the Clone Wars and Anakin and Obi’s relationship. And there would have been some Coruscant but way less of it. Plus I don’t see the Jedi as politicians or afraid of attachments. I completely reject the prequel version of the Jedi.
I would have had more ground battles and space battles as well.
I was going to say the moment Han arrives to save Luke when you think Vader has him in his sights and Luke is going to die. That surprise moment, because you think Han has abandoned them, and he shows up in the nick of time. You’re all clear kid.
It only surprises you the first time you saw the movie. Like TESB, No. I am your father. Or Artoo sending Luke his lightsaber and he grabs it in Return of the Jedi. That first green lightsaber reveal.
Suprise moments in Star Wars seem to be a lost element. In the prequel and sequel era.
They dissembled the negative washed it. And reassembled it with the new material. And the new optical recomposites. We were lead to believe all the Color Reversal Negative was unusable, perhaps it was back then.
What always got me was that no protection master was made of the restored print with none of the cgi changes. It probably would have been paid for by 20th Century Fox. It didn’t happen because of Lucas direct intervention, this 1997 cut is the original version.
Am I wrong to believe the Kinberg Trilogy is coming and the Rey movie is not? Not asked about or mentioned in that exit interview. and a bunch of those submitted scripts she talked about are tabled or shelved and not in active development like the Kinberg trilogy apparently is.
Lucasfilm is run by Disney almost in crazy way. What is the point of having dozens of scripts you refuse to make.
Remains to be seen if Filoni can right the ship.
Will Dave have the ability to put projects into motion like greenlight movies, or is he in the same terrible position as Kennedy having to deal with the whims of Bob Iger? All that corporate planning and synergy hasn’t worked well for Star Wars when it comes to the screenplays. Or the characters. With few exceptions of course. Lucasfilm cancels far more projects than it makes.
I guess it all comes down to how well Mando and Grogu and Starfighter do at the movies. If they make money enough for more films to be made.
At Least Rian had Mark and Carrie together in Last Jedi. Although I’m sure someone will point out the story context of Luke faking being there through the force. Astral projection.
We saw Lando separately in the third one. But Wedge popped up on the Falcon? Wicket and his son on Endor.
Not to mention Artoo and Threepio in all 3 of them. Chewie. Yoda in the second sequel. There are elements of nostalgia just not enough I suppose.
Well thanks for Andor then and the Original Original Trilogy getting restored. I’d toast her for those at least. If not the rest.
Returning to producing not retiring. And You know. She is a great producer. She just wasn’t cut out for running Lucasfilm, but she did it because George asked her. She ran Lucasfilm for over a decade. Hits and misses.
I think Mr. cartoon showrunner is going to need to step up a lot. I don’t think he is even on her level.
There is certainly no one to fill George’s tennis shoes.
Minor annoyance on my mother’s grocery order someone opened a bag of potato chips and helped themself. I obviously threw them away.
I usually tip well and I’m not well off.
I’ve heard worse stories of Spark delivery drivers and even received other people’s orders which I hand delivered to my neighbors.
Not the psycho neighbor downstairs but people in adjoining buildings. Or directly across from me upstairs.
I don’t believe its real and won’t until it happens. But Star Wars needs new voices and freshness. And a bit of shaking up. Filoni and Favreau are not that. It’s more of the same. The same stagnant garbage we’ve had for years. Mandoverse. It makes me hungry for anything but. Give me more Andor or Visions style shows. Or something else a show about something different in the Star Wars universe, does not even have to be Jedi or Sith related.
Could be a Lando show, Or show about the Droids. Or they could do something along the lines of a Rogue One but less of the nostalgia and familiar. Do something dark and gritty.
You could do a whole series about Luke’s Jedi Academy and his training of Ben Solo and the other students. The possibilities are endless but no one at Disney has any imagination.
They could do a Han and Chewie show where they are smugglers and go on adventures like Brian Daley novels. There is plenty of room to play around but they have to get over recasting roles and get rid of cartoon deepfakes. They learned the wrong lesson from Solo. It was, the time the film was released was poor. It was the screenplay, it was miscast leads and so on. Not that we needed Harrison to be deepfaked to accept the movie.
I can’t accept what Disney did with the Star Wars Sequel trilogy. Worldbuilding was nonexistent, they did a reset and remade the original trilogy. they were requels. I may like the new characters. Rey, Finn, Poe and Rose. I don’t condone what they did to Leia making her a military General instead of Chancellor of the New Republic. Han reverting to being a smuggler instead of a general. And Luke most of all wasn’t even Luke. Terrible writing. When even Mark Hamill is still grousing about it ten years later, it’s never going to be good. If he hated it, just what do you think legacy fans thought. I’ve mostly said my piece on it. But I will never accept that Jake Skywalker is a thing.
Though I mostly respect Rian Johnson outside of Star Wars. Respect Kathleen Kennedy for most of her producer career/ except Lucasfilm. Though I do thank her for Andor and Star Wars original getting restored
For JJ I have no ill will but I wish he would direct something that wasn’t a remake or remix of someone else idea. This era of movies is the worst all. All they do is remake films from the 1980s. I have no desire to see my childhood repurposed for the young people of today, they deserve a new story. New characters, new movies. Fresh ideas. Not a simulacrum or simulation of the past. Disney is the worst they are stuck in nostalgia. Making the same comic book movies in 12 different ways.
The Star Wars universe was vast and had a planned-out story and timeline that was something like 40 thousand years. The Disney timeline is crap. And inferior in every way. But oh well, they bought the IP, so they get to determine and rewrite canon. They want to make the most lazy and unimaginative derivative work from the decades of already existing lore.
I just watched Episode I and I hated it. I wonder if II and III hold up. I have these rose colored glasses, memories of seeing the prequel. I didn’t remember the movie being the Jedi standing around boringly talking space politics. I remembered the duel of the fates and the podrace.
I mostly enjoyed it the last time I watched it. Because well, I watched it after watching the first 3 movies in a marathon and was in a good mood. The Phantom Menace is terrible as a standalone film. I have to draw upon my nostalgia and love of the first three films to even draw connections between these movies, IF Johnny didn’t put it all in his music.
I have had people recommend several fanedits. But Lucas should have done a better job on dialogue and making Anakin likable IN II and III. Nobody talks like people in the prequels, in the originals they feel like real people not cardboard. Even whiny Luke in Star Wars I wanna go get some power convertors sounds like your typical teenager who wants to soup up his hotrod. His wanting adventure away from the mundane and boring is a clearly defined character.
The Last Jedi has the only bits of the sequel trilogy I like and they are mostly nostalgia pieces if not Luke talking about the force being bigger than the Jedi and Sith conflict. The balance is bigger. In the prequels and Clone Wars I liked the aspect of the living force and the cosmic force. If not liking midichlorians and not understanding anything about the whills. I didn’t understand mortis either. equal light and equal darkness yin and yang.
That is what I liked about the original the force is energy field that exists in all living things, It binds the galaxy together. Yoda said to feel the force around you. it exists in what I can only say is the land, the rocks and the trees. That kind of spiritual connection with ones conscious self and the world around them. The natural world not machines. Luke goes into a deep trance like a quasi-dreamlike state and can move rocks with his mind. Then Yoda says forget that lift the ship. And Luke says it is too big. Yoda says Its only too big in your mind.
I also like that IN TESB. what’s in the cave, only what you take with you. Luke brings all his hatred and fear and his weapons. fights his shadow self in the form of Darth Vader wearing his own face. The face of his enemy is his own. This is powerful and much more so when at the duel in Bespin. Vader tells Luke the truth that Kenobi hid from him. And the film ends with Luke receiving a robot hand just like Vader. Then in ROTJ he is clothed all in black like his father. Using the dark side against Gammoreans. He taps into it again when he fights and defeats his father on the Death Star II. He nearly kills him and only stops when he looks at his robotic hand and realizes he is becoming Vader. Plus Palpatine’s gloating brings Luke out of his trance if you will.
I heard it was kind of Goonies and Amblin-Esque. But I never watched all of it. I heard things about practical effects. Disney hasn’t gotten around to releasing it on Physical Media. Nor Andor Season 2. Nor Book of Boba Fett. Or Clone Wars season 7, the bad batch and any of the other animated material.
I don’t expect Acolyte will ever get a physical release either.
I’d most likely pick up Andor Season 2 and Visions. Though I don’t approve of Sony’s pricing. The limited edition steelbook model and no standard edition or Blu-Ray. Charging people like over 60 dollars for a single season of TV series is nigh on criminal in my opinion.