JadedSkywalker

I heard it was kind of Goonies and Amblin-Esque. But I never watched all of it. I heard things about practical effects. Disney hasn’t gotten around to releasing it on Physical Media. Nor Andor Season 2. Nor Book of Boba Fett. Or Clone Wars season 7, the bad batch and any of the other animated material.

I don’t expect Acolyte will ever get a physical release either.

I’d most likely pick up Andor Season 2 and Visions. Though I don’t approve of Sony’s pricing. The limited edition steelbook model and no standard edition or Blu-Ray. Charging people like over 60 dollars for a single season of TV series is nigh on criminal in my opinion.

They are always looking for who is hot as a director/ producer or the next trend. Sometimes this hilariously does not work out for them like Josh Trank, or Benioff and Weiss. Or Colin Trevorrow, or Lord and Miller. Or Rian Johnson.

Rian’s trilogy never even had a treatment. They seriously talk up movies all the time that are nothing more than what in the video game space would be known as vaporware.

Then you have people with very little to show for their contribution like Simon Kinberg who did Rebels and nothing else. a fake movie trilogy was announced, even less real than the Rey movie, which is not on the schedule before the end of the decade.

A new Chairperson could take Star Wars and pull it out of the ditch it is in, if they get the money people to start greenlighting projects and not cancelling like 97% of them.

The only positive I see since 2019 is Andor and the remaster of Star Wars 1977. Maybe I could say okay, Visions is interesting.

I would not mind some new comics and books that are of good quality though, it does not have to be a movie every two years.

Lucasfilm should expand beyond Star Wars. But if they can’t do Star Wars well how can they create new IP, or even resurrect Indiana Jones as an IP.

You could do an animated series with that, you could do streaming shows. Comics and new books. And all they have done is one film and one video game for Indiana Jones. Not to mention how they erased the Willow show like they never made it.

Indiana Jones they won’t even reprint the comic books from Marvel and Dark Horse in Marvel Epic Collection. Even Star Wars legends which Disney erased from existence within Star Wars canon, gets lots of new editions of books under the legends label.

American Graffiti UHD, Phantom Menace UHD.

Giving either of these 3 stars for picture quality would be generous. DNR scrubbed to hell. The quality varies shot to shot. They should just have not used noise reduction. The ATMOS mix for Phantom Menace is okay, but I prefer the laserdisc mix. The new 5.1 for American Graffiti is mixed to terrible.

The waxy and flat look, I mean why. There does appear to have been an attempt at good colors at least on American Graffiti but I can’t say whether they are theatrically accurate. I do know the techniscope grain is nowhere in evidence.

I think of the two, Phantom Menace is probably the worst DNR from hell UHD I own.

American Graffiti is charming in a way in its low budget style. Characters don’t feel perfect; the world feels lived in and real for the era it supposed to be. Even how goofy Richard Dreyfus acts is charming. And Terry the Toad is totally George.

Phantom Menace had cutting edge cgi in 1999. The story does not hold up. The acting is barely passable if you don’t excuse it as an old timey 1930s serial. For a kid’s movie there is an awful lot of dialog and boring scenes, and space politics is the worst part. You need more swashbuckling action and more Jedi doing cool stuff. I think there is like two cool scenes in the movie where Obi Wan and Qui-Gon fight the robots, and free the queen and her people, and the duel of the fates and the rest the movie the Jedi stand around talking about politics.

Anakin sort of is in the movie but he is barely a character and does not really effect anything until near to the end and by accident. The Space Battle is very um, pedestrian in comparison to return of the Jedi or Star Wars. The Gungan fight ground battle is kind of cool for a bit then it all goes silly with Jar Jar winning on accident like Inspector Gadget, until he gets captured.

Of yeah I forgot about the Podrace I guess that was cool like the first two times I watched it.

I’d like to see the color dailies that are in black in white in the so-called lost cut. I don’t expect any extended cuts of Star Wars. Deleted scenes would be nice.

I think Lucas moved on when he sold the franchise and after the Charlie Rose interview in 2015 filmed before the force awakens opened, was his final letting go. He walked away right? he barely wanted any Star Wars in his museum, almost as if he wants nothing to do with Star Wars. it’s a divorce.

I think it hurt him his feelings Disney not using his story treatments. Maybe even incensed him.

Selling to Disney is 4 billion dollars worth of reasons for the Original to get reissued. The so called secret Lucas contract forbidding their release appears to have been a fan hoax. The only thing preventing such was the purchase of 20th Century Fox and Disney acquiring all the assets finally, means Star Wars 1977 is Disney’s.

That finished in 2019 and for Star Wars 40th they did not own the rights in 2017.

Mark Hamill apparently said in a Hollywood reporter roundtable.

“I said, ‘Aren’t we going to have a moment where all 3 of us get together to raise the roof? It’ll only take 30 seconds,’” Hamill recalled as part of The Hollywood Reporter’s latest Actor Roundtable. “And JJ said, 'Well, Mark, it’s not Luke’s story anymore.”

Really? my problem was in finding that Boba was a clone and even the existence of Jango Fett, not ever mentioned in the original trilogy or outside lore.

I can’t wait to see Mandalorian Super Soldiers and Fett in action in the Clone Wars was the refrain.

Well, you see he is a little boy and he is sad because Mace Windu killed his father.

DaleJrFan2003 said:

Sleeping Beauty is one of my most desired 4K UHD releases (alongside Bambi, Pinocchio and Fantasia). Need to say that large format goodness on an OLED in 4K with Dolby Vision, grain in tact and original color timing.

Peter Pan and Sword in the Stone as well for me. And Hercules, Tarzan, Atlantis the Lost Empire. Treasure Planet. Only two of those are really classics.

1997 had better color in the theatrical prints. It had a better overall audio mix. I liked the Clive Revill was still the voice of the Emperor and Jason Wingreen the voice of Boba Fett. Also Sebastian Shaw is Anakin in the ghost scene.

Hate Jedi Rocks, hate Victory Celebration. 1997 Jabba is terrible. I prefer the redo in 2004 for Jabba if he has to be there at all. Did not like Luke’s scream in the 1997 edit.

Hayden Anakin Skywalker added in 2004 is one of the worst ever changes. But the 2011 is even worse. Blinking Ewoks, rocks in front of Artoo. New Krayt Dragon call. Big cgi door at Jabba’s.

I don’t like how Gungans were added to the Special Edition, I don’t like the Dugg in Jabba’s palace. I hate Vader yelling noooo on death star II.

I do not mind, I might actually like seeing the Jedi temple on coruscant. I like Luke hugging wedge from the 1997 cut.

Which years all these additions come from Is a jumbled memory.

I don’t mind cleaned up matte lines or fixing misaligned rotoscope or recomposites. it’s not intended to be the original originals.

which changes would I reverse. I would remove Hayden Skywalker from Return of the Jedi, would restore Lapti Nek and Yub Yub. Vader would not yell nooo. Vader would say bring my shuttle in Empire, again. I’d undo all the post 1997 changes to ESB except removing Luke’s scream.

And In ANH or Star Wars as I call it, Han would the only one who fires in the Cantina. The blaster burns on the soldiers on the death star would be restored.

Hopefully less than those IDW reprints of the strips which were not printed full size. If a Dark Horse reprint It will be Classic Star Wars which was a reformatting of the strips from the 1990s. Making it one continuous thing and removing the recaps and serial nature of it.

My favorite is still the Russ Cochran black and white printing of the Al Williamson material which oversize but also not full size. The IDW reprint was tiny.

Mine is kind of beat up from a dentists office. The 3 volume set. But it is signed by Al And Archie. These still sell from time to time but they are always in the 300 dollar and up range. I paid like half that. The slipcase has a little wear the volumes have been read once or twice by me. Though at=re in a box now, gods knows if the movers damaged them I hope not. I took out very few books and put them out i have Rinzler making of Star Wars. and of course, in my bedroom I have the hardback for thrawn trilogy and dark empire trilogy combined in an omnibus, I think there is a Hardback planned of the Al Williamson Classic Star Wars stuff and it will be around a hundred US.

I think I have Tales of the Jedi hardback as well, but I’m not sure. I do have all but the first of the original Marvel years volumes. The volume with Howard Chaykin goes for hundreds of dollars in hardback and has never been reprinted.

I don’t have the Marvel UK or Droids volume. I wanted them to do Star Wars Republic in hardback and they’ve done them in the paperback volumes and in digital edition. They have a hardback coming at some point that collects all of the Cade Skywalker legacy material. I’d like to get Mara Jade by the Emperor’s hand and Splinter of the Minds Eye, and Shadows of the Empire then I see some of the prices the hardback volumes command once out of print, also its Disney they rarely are discounted. Especially with Diamond comics distributors being gone and Things from another world being gone. Its a real shame Amazon took over the entire space of bookselling, other than looking for small independents on ebay. Barnes and Noble never discounts anything, not books.

Sometimes if you don’t mind a remaindered copy you can get a volume for decent money. But they aren’t collectors items with a small ding in the cover or a remainder marker mark. If you buy books to read them and for them not to be pretty all but the first Omnibus Star Wars Hardback from the new Disney Marvel should be findable. Except for Artists editions or limited editions. All but the black and white Star Wars artifact edition are impossible to find. Dark Times artists edition and especially the Empire Strikes Back by Al Williamson you aren’t finding those.

I would have liked a premium format edition of the original Star Wars comic adaptation from Howard Chaykin but they reprinted the Barreto 1997 Special Edition. The Chaykin material with original colors would be in the TPB Marvel Epic Collection. And of course, the already mentioned Hardcover with Hildebrandt cover. Long out of print since 2015.

Star Trek Starfleet Academy will premiere soon. I will give the first episode a fair viewing. I haven’t liked any of the trailers.

I honestly will watch it just out of curiosity about the Doctor from Voyager if nothing else. Not because it is a sequel to Discovery. Which no one has been asking for. If anything, that would have been legacy after Picard season 3. In the 25th century, if not Strange New Worlds which has gone off the rails and cancelled early.

SNW a rather short season 4 and 5. If the show finally gets better and it is already wrapped. Kind of sad to see the cast go at least, if not the bad writing.

Unless it comes from Lucasfilm itself I’m not believing Kathleen Kennedy is being replaced at all.

As long as it is a faithful restoration and the negative grain, Not dupe grain is intact and we get the original audio and colors. I don’t see an issue.

I haven’t liked the audio samples for the new mix. I like the 35mm Stereo. I have never heard the 70mm mix as it has never been available. The Mono Mix is great for what it is.

It will be weird to hear another mix for Star Wars, just how many mixes now can we count. The first film has had an insane amount of revisionism through the years. Just for the mix in English. I haven’t kept track of the foreign language dubs, I’m sure that gets interesting too.

ImperialFighter said:

Happy New Year to all.

Here’s another little thing to file under ‘rumour’ for the time being -

https://www.darkhorizons.com/lucasfilm-sets-its-new-co-presidents/

I simply don’t believe it. KK at Lucasfilm and Alex Kurtzman at Star Trek have been fired twice a week in fans delusions for years.

Besides i’m not convinced Filoni taking over would be a good thing. Mandoverse is one of the things I despise about Disney Star Wars the most. For all those people who said he was George’s apprentice, hilarious. a cartoon showrunner. A man who can’t do a darn thing in Star Wars live action. If anything, Ahsoka proves he should be nowhere near live action Star Wars, and talented in one area animation. I also think the cartoons and live action should not be in the same canon level, but that is a different subject altogether. I still think television canon and film canon should be separate like it was before the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney, and EU should be separate as well. The all one canon thing is just nonsense, and in its very style trying to Marvelize Star Wars. George was not beholden to books and comics, and Disney Star Wars isn’t either it’s all pretend. Marketing speak. Just like EU was just tie in fiction to make George money.

I think Tony Gilroy should get the job running Lucasfilm not Dave. But It is not my decision.

In other worlds I would gladly take a search for Ben Solo or a Rey movie before I will endure another season of Favreau/Filoni nonsense. They’ve diluted Star Wars and all but destroyed it. The first two seasons of Mando and the first season being the most quality is gone, and all that is left is the Grogu gimmick that was old years ago. The Book of Boba Fett is the worst Star Wars anything I’ve ever watched. Those Luke cameos were just awful. I would take a dozen films like The Last Jedi, or any of JJ Abrams Star Wars nonsense before ever wasting 2 more seconds on Mandoverse. They want to continue this for years and culminate in Dave Filoni’s movie. You have to be kidding me. Well I’m out.

Maybe Starfighter will end up a decent distraction or pleasingly decent, I hope.

My opinion is like the Disney Star Wars shows and films you like, comics, games and novels. and discard the rest. I think kids on the internet call that headcanon. A concept I usually eschew. I believe in the artist as creator and sole person who writes for their own secondary universe, and set up its own internal rules and put them into motion. A George Lucas if you will is the only real canon. A JRR Tolkien, or Gene Roddenberry. But then I dislike the Star Wars prequel movies and how they don’t fit the OT. Plus Star Wars as a concept can be done in so many new, and interesting ways only if you throw canon out, see Star Wars Visions or any of the now non canon Legends material George did not like. which contradicts what I said about the canon being important. Maybe I just have to unlearn the domination of the author and the auteur theory.

On balance I guess Filoni may be right. they are all just tales around a campfire and canon does not matter. I don’t know if I would say continuity is for weenies like he does, but he may be right to not treat anything in a fictional world as gospel as the fans do. Who get wrapped up in the stories and act like Luke is a real person.

What did you think of Keaton in the Flash. Or Sasha Calle Supergirl. Or Reeve and Slater cgi cameo. Its a film I liked enough to buy the poster and action figures to. I hardly ever do that. I also own the 4K. I have a somewhat negative opinion of the cgi.

By no means is it perfect, I think Flashpoint Paradox animated is a better film. But I also think the animated Dark Knight Returns was better than Batman V Superman. Peter Weller as Batman voice just works for some reason.

I really love Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy as Joker and Batman. I thought the Killing Joke was poorly adapted. Because of that Batman and Batgirl romance they stuck in there. I did laugh at the joke at the end the Joker tells Batman. And Batman laughs. Mark Hamill singing I go looney gets stuck in your head.

Are they doing the scene where Luke builds his lightsaber the quality on the 2011 blu-ray was bad.

I assume all Blu-Ray copies of Sleeping Beauty are the Lowry 4K scan finished in 2k. Is that that true?

2008 and rather ancient and by this point.

There has been a number of blu ray copies over the years. That is putting it mildly. They keep reissuing older dated transfers.

The technirama version in 4K is what I want to see. With no DNR. HDR grading and all of that.

I love the Muppets I have reservations. While I won’t go as far Frank Oz to suggest that Disney ruined the Muppets, I liked one of the new movies. The remake shows haven’t been the best. Seth Rogen is hit or miss. Mostly miss. I did not enjoy his Ninja Turtles remake. Likely because I’m an old man, it was made for kids and not legacy fans. The R Rated Last Ronin would have brought back Kevin Eastman as a creator but of course Paramount ended that noise. Or should I have said Ellison’s Skydance.

I mean that Rey is not really a leader in the resistance like Luke was, not in the rebellion with rank, and she did not lose a hand or something like that. Her story does somewhat Echo his but not in the usual way that Anakin’s does in the prequel.

And we get to see Anakin as a General in the Clone Wars cartoon. Luke suffers a consequence for rushing to face Vader.

Rey on the other hand faces no consequences for not listening to Luke and going to Kylo to turn him back to the good side. In fact the rise of Skywalker says she was right, and he was turned back to the light as a Skywalker. Dies as a Skywalker and she adopts the name. She abandoned her own Palpatine blood and chooses the fate of a Jedi Knight. When Luke never even trained her as one. But She sees him as her master. And then the movie bizarrely shows their ghosts watching her like they are her parents or some such, very strange.

Rise of Skywalker. And that whole Dyad thing what was that all about. I’ve obviously given it way more thought than JJ Abrams did. He made it ages ago and washed his hands of it.

It was cool for Finn and Poe to suddenly become Rebellion leaders, but Poe was the only one who showed he had abilities of leadership, I always expected Finn to be a Jedi or lead a stormtrooper rebellion. I never really thought he would do the Lando thing of being a general. To me Poe was more like the New Wedge and then he became the New Han in ROS. And Finn who was a lot like Han become what Lando? Rey is supposed to be Luke.

The only one who came halfway through the story and I liked Rose Tico. She was all but erased from the plot. And Finn is force sensitive, we only focus on Rey, and Finn relationship with Rey, never developed beyond the first film of the trilogy due to Reylo.

I’m not surprised The 3rd film was a major Rey focus because Return of the Jedi is the obvious template, and that is a Luke Skywalker movie.

Luke’s conflict was with Vader. What is Rey’s conflict other than self discovery in the trilogy? There does not seem to be one. Tacking on Palpatine as her father/grandfather in the final act feels like a very inorganic addition. Very unearned. Wanting to be valued, wanting to find her place in the universe. Which is completely valid, don’t get me wrong. Wanting family or a sense of purpose.

Luke I’m going to stake my life on saving my fathers soul and I don’t care if I get killed, is a big difference from whatever Reylo was, and it came out of nowhere.

Suddenly now we have a trilogy about a journey of a young woman’s self-discovery which was not designed that way in earnest, very loosely connected. And even more ad hoc is the downfall and redemption of Ben Solo. Who was irredeemable for murdering Han. And written that way. I expected him to go to the void like Jacen Solo. To not be a force ghost or be redeemed. I know they didn’t show it on screen, but he obviously was redeemed. He is probably in Jedi Heaven. Where Yoda and Luke and Ben Kenobi are. Anakin is there too.

I dislike how people don’t film anything anymore and use cgi sparingly, now all the fanfilms are AI.

I dislike AI.

Anything AI would be my least favorite. I have no idea what my favorite in the positive would be.

I haven’t watched many since the Disney handover. If anyone wants to recommend them, I would not mind watching some.

There is no 35mm for ROTK extended and the new reissue will likely be DCP and digital. We will never see prints of these again not sent to thousands of theaters. I never thought I was experiencing a once in a lifetime event when I saw Fellowship on 35mm, but it truly was. You can’t get that anymore.

Its only in less than two decades they abandoned exhibition here. But it feels like it’s been a hundred years. I can’t remember the last movie I saw on film Star Trek Into Darkness, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? I think it all went away in 2012-2013 and they started only doing digital.

Marvel has put out two of the Doomsday trailers so far. The Thor trailer was the best of the two so far officially released. The Steve Roger’s trailer wasn’t much.

When do they put up the X-men trailer? Fox X-men cameos.

benduwan said:

Who is ALI?
Is this part of Disney?
Will Disney restore and clean all the Star wars Film reels?

Good question. From what I understand they are only doing the original cuts of the original trilogy, but I’m not in the know. Lucasfilm itself has archived a lot of audio and visual material through the years. The Lucasfilm archives is massive. George kept everything from THX 1138 to whatever his last film was. If it existed on film, it’s in the cold storage vault most likely.

I assume they are not doing the 1997 and later edits of the Special Edition or the prequel films. This Ali group whoever they really are Disney internal or external company?

Which scan was used in Light and Magic? obviously not the current restoration.

I think the sheer number of shots, thousands of effects shots. wouldn’t have been possible on the money and time they needed to be done in without CGI. But they should have done more practical effects and done a mix. Lucas was determined to push digital though, even when it looked wonky and made no sense. Because it was about getting there eventually, where everything would be digital like it is now.

He was pushing for shooting digitally when it looked like ass, cameras meant for news footage. Episode II will never look good. on III they got the technology a little bit better. But they will never look as good as 35mm shot movies on film.

The part that makes no sense to me is George decided no Clone Trooper suits. It had to be faked in cgi.

General audiences did not care the films look like animated cartoons in places or CGI animated. Lucas was able to get away with it because you don’t linger on a single shot. so the fact some of the renders don’t hold up, whatever they go by at 24 frames per second. Yeah, you can pause the movie at home now in 4K. and say good lord who approved this shot it looks terrible.

There were sets and miniatures and it wasn’t all cgi. Yes we know about the location shooting and miniatures. But the overwhelming amount of the movie was shot on greenscreen with a digital backlot, and actors shot separately from one another as elements. Actors acting to nothing, doesn’t help.

I won’t be satisfied until there are 4K UHD discs we can own in our homes. To me a limited cinema release is exciting, but not the end goal. The GOUT DVD should be retired at long last. It would be nice to get the whole trilogy, and if no processing or DNR which would be a first for Lucasfilm, we can finally retire decades old laserdiscs.