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#1420937
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Dyad in the Force - A Star Wars Story (<em>released</em>)
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I tend to enjoy all of Star Wars. I grew up during the prequel era, and I loved it almost as much as the originals. And even though I don’t dislike the sequels (I like TFA, love TLJ and I really enjoy Hal’s TROS edit), the sequels are a mess.
I tried to edit them into a single movie some months ago, but gave up some days after, because it was going to be tooooooo long. But some days ago I watched Peregrine’s edit, which inspired me quite a lot.

Premise:

  1. Because the original cast appears, it needs to have a role in this single movie. Problem is that Han is important in VII, Luke is important in VIII, Leia is important in IX. This was one of my most problematic challenges in the first attempt, because I had to show too many scenes from all three movies. I tried to solve this by having the movie start when Han’s already dead, and show his death during one of Force-skype moments (something that usually doesn’t work, but here I hope it does because the movie itself revolves around the Dyad visions).
  2. With Snoke and Palpatine, the choices were: a) keep just Snoke; b) keep just Palpatine; c) keep both. But IMHO Palpatine HAS to appear, because he’s pivotal to Ben’s arc. Ben redeemes himself by resurrecting Rey, and Rey is dead on Exegol after defeating Palpatine. I don’t think you can have Ben not be redeemed and die on the DSII, simply because we don’t see him dying there. It doesn’t work, at least for me. In this edit I kept both of them. Snoke is a Grievous like character, he’s introduced like someone powerful and to be feared, but he’s killed of an hour later. And he has no relation at all with Palpatine.
  3. Rey is nobody. The importance in her is about the Dyad.

COMPLETE CHANGELIST (all credits for SFX to their creators):

  1. Movie starts with opening titles which quickly explain the presence of the FO, Luke in exile because “an apprentice” has fallen to the Dark Side, and Leia who sends a promising young girl to Luke, certain that he will train her. No map, no Starkiller. Movie starts with the Falcon going to Ach-To. It looks like Chewie works for Leia as taxi-service, but from this moment we wonder where Han is.
  2. End of TFA connects to Rey-Luke in TLJ. I tried to color correct the scenes from TLJ as much as possible. It looks ok, the problem is the totally different lighting between the two movies. But it’s not bad. We don’t really need an introduction. Rey is a Force sensitive girl which is sent by Leia to Luke.
  3. Then we cut to Kylo-Snoke. This scene actually works pretty well as an introduction to both of them. Their dialogue explains everything that we need. Plus, we find out that Ben killed Han. No hatred between Ben and Hux.
  4. When Kylo is ready to smash his mask, he hears Han’s voice.
  5. Then we cut to Rey and Luke. The whole Resistance-CantoBight stuff is gone. The Resistance is introduced way later with the Battle of Crait. No Luke drinking stuff and no Chewie eating Porgs.
  6. During the very first Dyad connection (when Rey awakens) we see Kylo killing Han, and that’s what triggers Rey into firing at him. Also, no caretakers.
  7. After the second Dyad vision, cut to Kylo going to Mustafar and then Exegol. In the opening titles I stated that Luke’s “fallen apprentice” has started searching for ancient Sith relics. It was just a line, but it justifies this scene, IMHO.
  8. Exegol is color corrected, like most of TROS scenes. Everything is grey, except for lightnings.
  9. No “I made Snoke” or stuff about voices. Palpatine is unrelated to Snoke or the FO. He still orders Kylo to kill Rey, because she’s a threat and a possible opponent. Some things that happen later, or some lines said by Kylo now have some sort of different meaning after this scene.
  10. No “She’s not who you think she is”.
  11. When Rey leaves with Chewie and is going to Snoke’s ship, she doesn’t mention Finn.
  12. As Rey enters the FO flagship, we see that it is attacking some Resistance shuttles. We see Leia for a moment. We don’t really need to know anything else. We know that the Resistance is fighting the First Order. I needed this not to have the Battle of Crait come out of nowhere.
  13. Slightly restructured Snoke lines to remove any mention about him bridging their minds. The Dyad is something “natural”, not created.
  14. During the duel and the lightsaber breaking scene, there’s no intercut.
  15. After Anakin’s lightsaber breaks, cut to black. Then I added TROS vision (the one at the end of Rey’s training), which is what makes Kylo awaken.
  16. Luke and Yoda scene is placed here, after Kylo Force chokes Hux.
  17. Then cut to the Battle of Crait. No introduction, no dialogue. There’s Crait’s planetview establishing shot and the battle. I think it works.
  18. No Finn’s attempted sacrifice. When Poe says they need to retreat, the FO weapon fires. Also, no Resistance trying to contact people and ask for help.
  19. After the battle, when Rey shuts the Falcon door, cut to black and start the TROS section with Rey’s training. Again, full color correction.
  20. The vision at the end of the training (used before) is replaced with the hangar scenes between Kylo and Rey, where Kylo doesn’t say anything about Rey Palpatine, but just explains that they’re a Dyad and they can kill the Emperor. There’s some defocusing effect and some whispers added to give the idea that this is some Force vision (especially considering that all the Pasaana/Kijimi stuff is gone).
  21. No First Order Spy subplot. When Poe and Finn arrive (this is the real introduction for them), they chat with Rey. But the scene is over when Rey asks Finn about bad mood, and Finn replies “Always”.
  22. Added Palpatine’s message. It’s still needed, because Rey’s the only one who is certain about his return (thanks to the Dyad visions), and the Resistance needs some proof.
  23. Thanks Peregrine for this idea. When Rey says that she’s going to restart Luke’s journey where he stopped, she doesn’t mention Pasaana. They all leave and go to the Death Star wreckage, making us undestand that this is where Luke’s trail went cold. A bit stretched, considering that the Wayfinder is in the Throne Room and that this is probably the first place Luke would go, but hey… nothing is perfect.
  24. No Dark Rey saying “Don’t be afraid of who you are”.
  25. No dialogue between Poe and Finn about Palpatine wanting Rey. Palpatine never had anything to do with Rey (except for now, now he wants her because Kylo ha turned back to the light side).
  26. Restructured Luke-Rey scene, with again no mention about her being a Palpy.
  27. Removed dialogue between 3PO and R2 about 3PO’s memory loss.
  28. No mention about the Holdo Maneuver.
  29. Palpatine’s plan is the same as the original. He wants Rey to strike him down, and taunts her by offering her the throne. When Rey refuses (“All you want is for me to hate, but I won’t, not even you”), he doesn’t reply; he smiles and shows her the Resistance being wiped out.
  30. Lambda shuttle replaced Tie fighter.
  31. Civilian fleet’s voices (your voices) added.
  32. Jonh Force ghosts (with blue saber) added.
  33. Chewie/Poe/Finn playing on Falcon, and Falcon leaving Tatooine as ending added.

Am I satisfied? Yes.
Is it perfect? Hell no. A LOT of things happen. But I still think it works. There are many movies where countless things happen. End credits start at 2:24 hrs, so it’s not even one of those 3 hours long edits. Rey, Kylo and Luke still have their arcs, and Han and Leia, even thought their screentime is reduced, have a purpose in the story. Poe and Finn are downgraded to side-characters, but this was inevitable.
I’m still not sure about Snoke and Palpatine. Considering that I think Palpatine is almost impossible to remove (unless someone gives me a closure to Rey and especially Kylo without the Emperor), I did what I could. Maybe I’ll try another edit without Snoke, with Kylo leading the First Order from the beginning and eventually finding Palpatine.

The edit will be released shortly. I’m still working on some color correction, and then I’ll have to render it (and my PC is from Ancient Rome’s time).

Again, it’s not perfect, but if some people have the courage to praise the Snyder Cut, then in comparison this is not that bad.

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#1419629
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Star Wars - Episode IV: The Heir of Skywalker (V2 Released)
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Hey man! I had to stop it for some time, because of PC issues and the usual “life happens”.
I’ll get to work on it as soon as possible. Don’t worry, it will be released in 2021, in spring or summer 😉
Right now I’ve edited up to the Tie Fighter chase sequence, and the final battle won’t have many changes, so it’s coming.

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#1414169
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The kinda “official” (?) answer about the Dyad (I don’t know how much you care about this, but still) is something like:
The Dyad is a natural phenomenon, not something you really can create. When Ben became Kylo and fought the previous leader of the Knights of Ren, Ben and Rey shared… something. It’s like she feels he’s falling to the Dark Side, meaning that they had a connection years before the movies (all this stuff comes from Kylo’s comic).
All other things that happen (Kylo probing her mind in TFA and Snoke mind bridging them) just enhanced something that was already there.

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#1408702
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Star Wars - Episode IV: The Heir of Skywalker (V2 Released)
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OPENING VIDEO

Ok, here’s the opening of the edit, with the new crawl, Tatooine atmosphere, lasers enhanced, suns added, new tracks and color correction. I know this is not for everyone (mostly because of prequels’ musics) but even though I won’t change pretty much anything storywise, I still want to have a cohesive feel to the saga…

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fgGV_Mg9uU4VOpLO-P8SmdFoip7RxVTd/view?usp=sharing
Thoughts and opinions always welcomed.

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#1403815
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SparkySywer said:

I regret jumping into the ST arguments into this thread all the time, because this isn’t the ST arguments thread, this is the random ST fanedit ideas thread. But… I have no self control and have to have the last word.

If Luke being a hermit is a given, the reason Rian gave for why is the best possible reason, especially given the context given to him in TFA. I’ve never, ever seen anyone propose an alternative reason they would’ve preferred, period, let alone a better one. And all the other reasons I can think of (Luke’s trapped there, Luke’s hunting/researching something that’ll help him beat Snoke, etc) don’t lead into anything more creatively interesting than “Good guys and bad guys get in a big fight and the good guys win”. For a sequel to something as big as Star Wars, I want something better than that.

Maybe I’m missing something, but again, nobody ever proposes anything they’d have preferred, let alone something actually better than that.

I’ve never seen Luke’s vision as out of character, though. Luke sees a vision of Ben killing all his friends, Leia, Han, and destroying everything he and his friends spent their whole lives working so hard on. And he realizes he could prevent it all from happening incredibly easily, but he knows it’s wrong to do that. Not just because killing some teenager is super fucked up, but because of what he learned with Vader. Anyone can be redeemed and no person’s future is set in stone.

When Ben destroys his temple, he looks back at his own actions and the actions of the prequel-era Jedi, and comes to the conclusion that the Jedi taking too active of a role in the galaxy was harmful. So he chooses to go into exile, because he believes that’s what’s best for the galaxy.

Seems pretty in-character to me. Even for young Luke, and bear in mind, the ST Luke has spend a good majority of his life after Return of the Jedi.

The idea that Luke in TLJ’s character is “He tried to kill Ben in his sleep and then he abandoned all his friends and the galaxy to sulk and be depressed” is, to put it diplomatically… not entirely accurate.

And don’t really think the decision to put Luke on the island in TFA is that big a deal either. I’m a fan of TFA, and looking for Luke Skywalker was a good hook into a new story and new characters. It’s a little safe, but after the prequels and a change in ownership, faith in Lucasfilm was at an all time low from 2012-2015. TFA undeniably won it back, being the most uncontroversially popular thing that’s been put out since the buyout. Except maybe Mando Season 1.

Maybe I’m missing some better big picture story, but most ST rewrites (which take place at the appropriate time for the actors’ ages) just have the OT trio as entirely static characters, who face off against a boring new villain, and do absolutely nothing interesting on the way to victory.

(Which sucks, because I want to get into ST rewrites but most of them are really awful)

I’m totally, 100% with you. That’s what I tried to write (maybe if I were to put it down in Italian it would have been clearer, lol)

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#1401995
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Except Luke wasn’t “changed for the worse”, IMHO.
I really don’t understand what people watched (and then I’ll promise I’ll shut up. And always remember “De gustibus non disputandum est”).

  1. Luke’s strenght was never his infallibility. Luke wasn’t Superman. Luke wasn’t a perfect hero. Never. He always made mistakes. While Leia was fighting in the Alliance, he was “playing” on Tatooine and he wanted to become a Rebel just because he wanted adventures. In Empire he makes a huge mistake that brings to him losing a hand and almost dying. In Return he almost falls to the Dark Side as soon as Vader taunts him. That’s why in my opinion TLJ’s Luke is in line with OT. What he did with Ben was a mistake, and the movie itself recognizes it as a mistake. Objection: “But he tried to redeem Vader. Why didn’t he do the same with Ben?” —> Well, of course because in this case he was responsible.
  2. Everyone loved The Mandalorian scene because “that’s the real Luke Skywalker”. Excuse me? In Empire, Yoda says that a Jedi uses the Force “for knowledge and defence”. That’s precisely what he does in TLJ, he projects not to kill but to protect the Resistance. THAT his the concretization of Luke’s arc. His scene in The Mandalorian actually builds on TLJ’s Luke. It mirrors Rogue One’s Vader scene, and Luke (unlike Ahsoka) doesn’t have any doubts about training Grogu. Luke is hot headed, ready to do everything to rebuild the Order. What I’m saying is that there’s only ONE Luke. A flawed hero who makes mistakes (in OT, in The Mandalorian, in TLJ) but always manages to learn from those mistakes. Yet almost everyone is like “I loved him in the Mandalorian because he’s a true jedi there (even though he acts almost like a Sith). But I hate TLJ because that’s not Luke (even though he makes a mistakes, learns from it and brings his arc to a conclusion by using the Force to protect others)”.

I’m sorry for this. I’ll delete it if it’s too much, lol.

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#1401971
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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NeverarGreat said:

IlFanEditore said:

Movies Remastered said:

I feel TLJ took the biggest risks but did the most damage in the process. I lived the fact they highlighted capitalism, slavery, a broken Luke and the final scene with Leia but it did miss the mark on many things. Daisy Ridley dialogue was awesome and they disrespected Ackbar. Unforgivable imo.

I never cared that much about Ackbar. He was a meme character.
The only disputable aspect about TLJ (in my very personal opinion) was Canto Bight and Finn’s treatment. Finn, to me, worked as a side character, a character used to enhance other charismatic characters. Except for his betrayal as stormtrooper, in TFA he didn’t do that much; he was always with others. First with Poe, then with Rey, then with Han, then again with Rey. In TLJ they tried to give him more ground by putting another even less charismatic character on his path. Still, I didn’t hate it, I just liked it less than other parts. But everything else, to me, was just great.

Finn in TFA was definitely a main character along with Rey. In fact, he could easily have been the main character if he turned out to be Force sensitive from the outset. It was TLJ and TROS that sidelined him the most and elevated Rey to unquestioned Main Character status, IMO.

I have a different opinion, but that’s totally fine. It’s probably because I never found Finn to be charismatic (meaning as a character who could carry the scene by himself), and I found the attempts made in following movies kinda forced. He’s always alongside other characters who push the story forward, while he’s just there, commenting or doing stuff that brings to nothing.