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- #1409143
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- Star Wars - Episode IV: The Heir of Skywalker (V2 Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1409143/action/topic#1409143
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OPENING VIDEO
Ok, hereās the opening of the edit, with the new crawl, Tatooine atmosphere, lasers enhanced, suns added, new tracks and color correction. I know this is not for everyone (mostly because of prequelsā musics) but even though I wonāt change pretty much anything storywise, I still want to have a cohesive feel to the sagaā¦
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fgGV_Mg9uU4VOpLO-P8SmdFoip7RxVTd/view?usp=sharing
Thoughts and opinions always welcomed.
I love how you made the Falcon more in line with TFA!
Hell yeah! š
Notice the green/blue lights on the ladderā¦
With Tatooine I disagree. Itās in line with how it was depicted in The Mandalorian.
The last one I agree, but when itās āin motionā it doesnāt look bad.
I just found this comparison site on another thread. So I wanted to try it, lol
https://imgsli.com/Mzc5NjI (Tatooine opening)
https://imgsli.com/Mzc5NjM (Ben VS Vader)
https://imgsli.com/Mzc5NjQ (Ben VS Vader 2)
https://imgsli.com/Mzc5NjU (Falcon interior)
https://imgsli.com/Mzc5NjY (Death Star)
I regret jumping into the ST arguments into this thread all the time, because this isnāt the ST arguments thread, this is the random ST fanedit ideas thread. But⦠I have no self control and have to have the last word.
If Luke being a hermit is a given, the reason Rian gave for why is the best possible reason, especially given the context given to him in TFA. Iāve never, ever seen anyone propose an alternative reason they wouldāve preferred, period, let alone a better one. And all the other reasons I can think of (Lukeās trapped there, Lukeās hunting/researching something thatāll help him beat Snoke, etc) donāt lead into anything more creatively interesting than āGood guys and bad guys get in a big fight and the good guys winā. For a sequel to something as big as Star Wars, I want something better than that.
Maybe Iām missing something, but again, nobody ever proposes anything theyād have preferred, let alone something actually better than that.
Iāve never seen Lukeās vision as out of character, though. Luke sees a vision of Ben killing all his friends, Leia, Han, and destroying everything he and his friends spent their whole lives working so hard on. And he realizes he could prevent it all from happening incredibly easily, but he knows itās wrong to do that. Not just because killing some teenager is super fucked up, but because of what he learned with Vader. Anyone can be redeemed and no personās future is set in stone.
When Ben destroys his temple, he looks back at his own actions and the actions of the prequel-era Jedi, and comes to the conclusion that the Jedi taking too active of a role in the galaxy was harmful. So he chooses to go into exile, because he believes thatās whatās best for the galaxy.
Seems pretty in-character to me. Even for young Luke, and bear in mind, the ST Luke has spend a good majority of his life after Return of the Jedi.
The idea that Luke in TLJās character is āHe tried to kill Ben in his sleep and then he abandoned all his friends and the galaxy to sulk and be depressedā is, to put it diplomatically⦠not entirely accurate.
And donāt really think the decision to put Luke on the island in TFA is that big a deal either. Iām a fan of TFA, and looking for Luke Skywalker was a good hook into a new story and new characters. Itās a little safe, but after the prequels and a change in ownership, faith in Lucasfilm was at an all time low from 2012-2015. TFA undeniably won it back, being the most uncontroversially popular thing thatās been put out since the buyout. Except maybe Mando Season 1.
Maybe Iām missing some better big picture story, but most ST rewrites (which take place at the appropriate time for the actorsā ages) just have the OT trio as entirely static characters, who face off against a boring new villain, and do absolutely nothing interesting on the way to victory.
(Which sucks, because I want to get into ST rewrites but most of them are really awful)
Iām totally, 100% with you. Thatās what I tried to write (maybe if I were to put it down in Italian it would have been clearer, lol)
Except Luke wasnāt āchanged for the worseā, IMHO.
I really donāt understand what people watched (and then Iāll promise Iāll shut up. And always remember āDe gustibus non disputandum estā).
Iām sorry for this. Iāll delete it if itās too much, lol.
I feel TLJ took the biggest risks but did the most damage in the process. I lived the fact they highlighted capitalism, slavery, a broken Luke and the final scene with Leia but it did miss the mark on many things. Daisy Ridley dialogue was awesome and they disrespected Ackbar. Unforgivable imo.
I never cared that much about Ackbar. He was a meme character.
The only disputable aspect about TLJ (in my very personal opinion) was Canto Bight and Finnās treatment. Finn, to me, worked as a side character, a character used to enhance other charismatic characters. Except for his betrayal as stormtrooper, in TFA he didnāt do that much; he was always with others. First with Poe, then with Rey, then with Han, then again with Rey. In TLJ they tried to give him more ground by putting another even less charismatic character on his path. Still, I didnāt hate it, I just liked it less than other parts. But everything else, to me, was just great.Finn in TFA was definitely a main character along with Rey. In fact, he could easily have been the main character if he turned out to be Force sensitive from the outset. It was TLJ and TROS that sidelined him the most and elevated Rey to unquestioned Main Character status, IMO.
I have a different opinion, but thatās totally fine. Itās probably because I never found Finn to be charismatic (meaning as a character who could carry the scene by himself), and I found the attempts made in following movies kinda forced. Heās always alongside other characters who push the story forward, while heās just there, commenting or doing stuff that brings to nothing.
I feel TLJ took the biggest risks but did the most damage in the process. I lived the fact they highlighted capitalism, slavery, a broken Luke and the final scene with Leia but it did miss the mark on many things. Daisy Ridley dialogue was awesome and they disrespected Ackbar. Unforgivable imo.
I never cared that much about Ackbar. He was a meme character.
The only disputable aspect about TLJ (in my very personal opinion) was Canto Bight and Finnās treatment. Finn, to me, worked as a side character, a character used to enhance other charismatic characters. Except for his betrayal as stormtrooper, in TFA he didnāt do that much; he was always with others. First with Poe, then with Rey, then with Han, then again with Rey. In TLJ they tried to give him more ground by putting another even less charismatic character on his path. Still, I didnāt hate it, I just liked it less than other parts. But everything else, to me, was just great.
Before realizing that Roundhead Rian wanted to destroy star wars,
Here we go againā¦
Well, Iāll edit the sequels sooner or later, and yet I LOVED The Last Jedi. To me it was by far the best of the three.
Any release date ?
Not yet, sorry. Iām still at the lightsaber duel. A few months, probablyā¦
Could I please have a link?
Ok, so⦠I made another full saga edit.
If interested, hereās the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI9oT-D5DeY
Itās not a full movie edit, but an edit nonetheless š
Thank you man!
You overestimate me. Iām not able to do it. Not by a long shot š
One thing is to change colors and add some lights here and there, another is restore low quality videosā¦
Trailer available in 1:30 hrs.
If interested, hereās the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYz_zsJk4sM
Nothing phenomenal, but I wanted to make it, lol.
Trailer coming soon
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Iām personally not a fan of all the added blue to the greys. The increase of contrast in the highlights look like they rob the image of fine detail quality for the sake of adding more light. Having been to the dunes many times, I donāt really ever remember the sky being so vibrantly blue, though Iām sure atmospherics would be different on other worlds and locations. I think JJ nailed the sand look with Jakku personally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sarFZJl3h0&ab_channel=JohnnyJawbone
Thank you! Iāll see what I can do. I kinda like the way it isā¦
id love to give this a watch. concept wise i dig it. Making a new hope fit with the rest of the lore has always been something ive wanted to do.
Thank you.
I think Vaderās conflict is incredibly important for his character.
Ok then. Iāll keep it š
Are you going to do TESB?
Yes, I started working on it before deciding to go back to ANH.
But ESB is a pretty conservative edit, a mixture of what I like about the last official versions (some colors and picture quality) with Adywanās Revisited effects (Hoth, Bespin, Yodaās mouth etc). And also some CC I made to the 2020 version. I mean, itās not like I could do something comparable to Adywan, so itās just a collage of things I like, lol.
In ROTJ Iāll maintain:
-the removal of Leia/Chewieās arrival to Jabbaās Palace,
-Palpatine arrival to the Death Star as the opening,
-other saga moviesā soundtrack added,
-Vader being less doubtful about the Dark Side (but less edited than the original⦠for example Iāll keep Palpatine asking to Vader if his feelings are clear). The fact that Luke believes Vader can be saved, and Palpatineās worries, are enough for the audience. But around this point Iām not 100% sure. I could keep this as the original movie, if Iām really the only one who doesnāt like Vader being doubtful.
Plus:
-Jabbaās palace exterior will be taken from The Mandalorian (if it looks ok)
-Jabbaās palace interior music the first time we enter will be changed, if possible (I hate the original)
-Endorās planet view will be blue-ish again, or at least not that hard green I added in the edit
EDIT Actually, Iād like to know if others want me to keep the original Vaderās struggle untouched. I wonāt go back on other changes, because those are some of the cornerstones of my edit, but with thisā¦
As always, TOP: original - BOTTOM: edited
The video is named āTrue Rise of Skywalkerā. Yeah, ok, but no.
I totally appreciate the effort, but the trailer music doesnāt work, at times thereās the original music over the new one, the added Yoda voiceover is odd, the Force āpossessionā (?) is cringe, Obi Wan turning his head is bad-looking, Anakinās face looks strange.
I liked the shot where they all raise their hands, and it looks like Anakin is the one who pulls his lightsaber into Reyās hand. But I donāt know if itās usable (Qui Gonā¦)
Again, I respect the work behind it, but if one publishes something he must be open to criticism. I would never be able to do something like that, but I didnāt like it.
Thank you all for feedback š