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#1408702
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Star Wars - Episode IV: The Heir of Skywalker (V2 Released)
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OPENING VIDEO

Ok, here’s the opening of the edit, with the new crawl, Tatooine atmosphere, lasers enhanced, suns added, new tracks and color correction. I know this is not for everyone (mostly because of prequels’ musics) but even though I won’t change pretty much anything storywise, I still want to have a cohesive feel to the saga…

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fgGV_Mg9uU4VOpLO-P8SmdFoip7RxVTd/view?usp=sharing
Thoughts and opinions always welcomed.

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#1403815
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SparkySywer said:

I regret jumping into the ST arguments into this thread all the time, because this isn’t the ST arguments thread, this is the random ST fanedit ideas thread. But… I have no self control and have to have the last word.

If Luke being a hermit is a given, the reason Rian gave for why is the best possible reason, especially given the context given to him in TFA. I’ve never, ever seen anyone propose an alternative reason they would’ve preferred, period, let alone a better one. And all the other reasons I can think of (Luke’s trapped there, Luke’s hunting/researching something that’ll help him beat Snoke, etc) don’t lead into anything more creatively interesting than ā€œGood guys and bad guys get in a big fight and the good guys winā€. For a sequel to something as big as Star Wars, I want something better than that.

Maybe I’m missing something, but again, nobody ever proposes anything they’d have preferred, let alone something actually better than that.

I’ve never seen Luke’s vision as out of character, though. Luke sees a vision of Ben killing all his friends, Leia, Han, and destroying everything he and his friends spent their whole lives working so hard on. And he realizes he could prevent it all from happening incredibly easily, but he knows it’s wrong to do that. Not just because killing some teenager is super fucked up, but because of what he learned with Vader. Anyone can be redeemed and no person’s future is set in stone.

When Ben destroys his temple, he looks back at his own actions and the actions of the prequel-era Jedi, and comes to the conclusion that the Jedi taking too active of a role in the galaxy was harmful. So he chooses to go into exile, because he believes that’s what’s best for the galaxy.

Seems pretty in-character to me. Even for young Luke, and bear in mind, the ST Luke has spend a good majority of his life after Return of the Jedi.

The idea that Luke in TLJ’s character is ā€œHe tried to kill Ben in his sleep and then he abandoned all his friends and the galaxy to sulk and be depressedā€ is, to put it diplomatically… not entirely accurate.

And don’t really think the decision to put Luke on the island in TFA is that big a deal either. I’m a fan of TFA, and looking for Luke Skywalker was a good hook into a new story and new characters. It’s a little safe, but after the prequels and a change in ownership, faith in Lucasfilm was at an all time low from 2012-2015. TFA undeniably won it back, being the most uncontroversially popular thing that’s been put out since the buyout. Except maybe Mando Season 1.

Maybe I’m missing some better big picture story, but most ST rewrites (which take place at the appropriate time for the actors’ ages) just have the OT trio as entirely static characters, who face off against a boring new villain, and do absolutely nothing interesting on the way to victory.

(Which sucks, because I want to get into ST rewrites but most of them are really awful)

I’m totally, 100% with you. That’s what I tried to write (maybe if I were to put it down in Italian it would have been clearer, lol)

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#1401995
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Except Luke wasn’t ā€œchanged for the worseā€, IMHO.
I really don’t understand what people watched (and then I’ll promise I’ll shut up. And always remember ā€œDe gustibus non disputandum estā€).

  1. Luke’s strenght was never his infallibility. Luke wasn’t Superman. Luke wasn’t a perfect hero. Never. He always made mistakes. While Leia was fighting in the Alliance, he was ā€œplayingā€ on Tatooine and he wanted to become a Rebel just because he wanted adventures. In Empire he makes a huge mistake that brings to him losing a hand and almost dying. In Return he almost falls to the Dark Side as soon as Vader taunts him. That’s why in my opinion TLJ’s Luke is in line with OT. What he did with Ben was a mistake, and the movie itself recognizes it as a mistake. Objection: ā€œBut he tried to redeem Vader. Why didn’t he do the same with Ben?ā€ —> Well, of course because in this case he was responsible.
  2. Everyone loved The Mandalorian scene because ā€œthat’s the real Luke Skywalkerā€. Excuse me? In Empire, Yoda says that a Jedi uses the Force ā€œfor knowledge and defenceā€. That’s precisely what he does in TLJ, he projects not to kill but to protect the Resistance. THAT his the concretization of Luke’s arc. His scene in The Mandalorian actually builds on TLJ’s Luke. It mirrors Rogue One’s Vader scene, and Luke (unlike Ahsoka) doesn’t have any doubts about training Grogu. Luke is hot headed, ready to do everything to rebuild the Order. What I’m saying is that there’s only ONE Luke. A flawed hero who makes mistakes (in OT, in The Mandalorian, in TLJ) but always manages to learn from those mistakes. Yet almost everyone is like ā€œI loved him in the Mandalorian because he’s a true jedi there (even though he acts almost like a Sith). But I hate TLJ because that’s not Luke (even though he makes a mistakes, learns from it and brings his arc to a conclusion by using the Force to protect others)ā€.

I’m sorry for this. I’ll delete it if it’s too much, lol.

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#1401971
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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NeverarGreat said:

IlFanEditore said:

Movies Remastered said:

I feel TLJ took the biggest risks but did the most damage in the process. I lived the fact they highlighted capitalism, slavery, a broken Luke and the final scene with Leia but it did miss the mark on many things. Daisy Ridley dialogue was awesome and they disrespected Ackbar. Unforgivable imo.

I never cared that much about Ackbar. He was a meme character.
The only disputable aspect about TLJ (in my very personal opinion) was Canto Bight and Finn’s treatment. Finn, to me, worked as a side character, a character used to enhance other charismatic characters. Except for his betrayal as stormtrooper, in TFA he didn’t do that much; he was always with others. First with Poe, then with Rey, then with Han, then again with Rey. In TLJ they tried to give him more ground by putting another even less charismatic character on his path. Still, I didn’t hate it, I just liked it less than other parts. But everything else, to me, was just great.

Finn in TFA was definitely a main character along with Rey. In fact, he could easily have been the main character if he turned out to be Force sensitive from the outset. It was TLJ and TROS that sidelined him the most and elevated Rey to unquestioned Main Character status, IMO.

I have a different opinion, but that’s totally fine. It’s probably because I never found Finn to be charismatic (meaning as a character who could carry the scene by himself), and I found the attempts made in following movies kinda forced. He’s always alongside other characters who push the story forward, while he’s just there, commenting or doing stuff that brings to nothing.

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#1401942
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Movies Remastered said:

I feel TLJ took the biggest risks but did the most damage in the process. I lived the fact they highlighted capitalism, slavery, a broken Luke and the final scene with Leia but it did miss the mark on many things. Daisy Ridley dialogue was awesome and they disrespected Ackbar. Unforgivable imo.

I never cared that much about Ackbar. He was a meme character.
The only disputable aspect about TLJ (in my very personal opinion) was Canto Bight and Finn’s treatment. Finn, to me, worked as a side character, a character used to enhance other charismatic characters. Except for his betrayal as stormtrooper, in TFA he didn’t do that much; he was always with others. First with Poe, then with Rey, then with Han, then again with Rey. In TLJ they tried to give him more ground by putting another even less charismatic character on his path. Still, I didn’t hate it, I just liked it less than other parts. But everything else, to me, was just great.

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#1397982
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Star Wars - Episode IV: The Heir of Skywalker (V2 Released)
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DigMod said:

I’m personally not a fan of all the added blue to the greys. The increase of contrast in the highlights look like they rob the image of fine detail quality for the sake of adding more light. Having been to the dunes many times, I don’t really ever remember the sky being so vibrantly blue, though I’m sure atmospherics would be different on other worlds and locations. I think JJ nailed the sand look with Jakku personally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sarFZJl3h0&ab_channel=JohnnyJawbone

Thank you! I’ll see what I can do. I kinda like the way it is…

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#1397836
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Star Wars - Episode IV: The Heir of Skywalker (V2 Released)
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SandMTV said:

Are you going to do TESB?

Yes, I started working on it before deciding to go back to ANH.
But ESB is a pretty conservative edit, a mixture of what I like about the last official versions (some colors and picture quality) with Adywan’s Revisited effects (Hoth, Bespin, Yoda’s mouth etc). And also some CC I made to the 2020 version. I mean, it’s not like I could do something comparable to Adywan, so it’s just a collage of things I like, lol.

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#1397814
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Star Wars - Episode IV: The Heir of Skywalker (V2 Released)
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In ROTJ I’ll maintain:
-the removal of Leia/Chewie’s arrival to Jabba’s Palace,
-Palpatine arrival to the Death Star as the opening,
-other saga movies’ soundtrack added,
-Vader being less doubtful about the Dark Side (but less edited than the original… for example I’ll keep Palpatine asking to Vader if his feelings are clear). The fact that Luke believes Vader can be saved, and Palpatine’s worries, are enough for the audience. But around this point I’m not 100% sure. I could keep this as the original movie, if I’m really the only one who doesn’t like Vader being doubtful.

Plus:
-Jabba’s palace exterior will be taken from The Mandalorian (if it looks ok)
-Jabba’s palace interior music the first time we enter will be changed, if possible (I hate the original)
-Endor’s planet view will be blue-ish again, or at least not that hard green I added in the edit

EDIT Actually, I’d like to know if others want me to keep the original Vader’s struggle untouched. I won’t go back on other changes, because those are some of the cornerstones of my edit, but with this…

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#1395463
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The video is named ā€œTrue Rise of Skywalkerā€. Yeah, ok, but no.
I totally appreciate the effort, but the trailer music doesn’t work, at times there’s the original music over the new one, the added Yoda voiceover is odd, the Force ā€œpossessionā€ (?) is cringe, Obi Wan turning his head is bad-looking, Anakin’s face looks strange.
I liked the shot where they all raise their hands, and it looks like Anakin is the one who pulls his lightsaber into Rey’s hand. But I don’t know if it’s usable (Qui Gon…)
Again, I respect the work behind it, but if one publishes something he must be open to criticism. I would never be able to do something like that, but I didn’t like it.