I suggest we use the Special Edition version.
It’s-a me, Vaderio!
Thank you. I’m waiting for those too.
I’ll go with darthrush edit now 😉
Excuse me guys, what do you think is the best ROTJ edit available?
Ok, I’m thinking about changing things.
I want to start the movie with the Tatooine scene.
New crawl:
"The JEDI ORDER is in turmoil.
Grand Master Yoda senses a disturbance in the Force, fearing the return of an ancient enemy.
Endlessly debating about the dangerous activities of the TRADE FEDERATION, the Senate is powerless when Viceroy Nute Gunray stops all shipping on the peaceful planet of ALDERAAN, threatening a full scale invasion.
On his way to smuggle the Queen of Alderaan to Coruscant, hoping for assistance, Jedi Knight Qui-Gon Jinn is contacted by his former master Dooku and sent to the desolate planet of Tatooine to retreive a Force sensitive young boy".
So… by setting everything in the crawl I can start things on Tatooine and I don’t have to hide Padme.
Then go to Coruscant.
Then go to Naboo-Alderaan and place ALL of the battle scenes here, so that it feels like the important third act of the movie.
Tell me what you think. Is the crawl ok?
PADME & PALPATINE dialogue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN499_HJ96c&feature=youtu.be
Changes:
Color correction: CORUSCANT, JEDI TEMPLE, SENATE.
Link 1: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129321
Link 2: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129323
Link 3: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129324
Link 4: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129325
Tatooine video comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CrzZMYxpc0&feature=youtu.be
So, the changes are:
As soon as it’s finished, lol 😄
CRAWL TEST 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m24cpz3lYLU&feature=youtu.be
Please, correct me if something sounds terrible in english, lol.
Yeah, I noticed that. I’ll reduce the grain. Thank you.
I think you refer to the sky, am I right?
Yeah, there’s both a sharpening effect and some grain effect. I still have to work on it, especially on the grain.
Color Correction: ALDERAAN
Link 1: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129075
Thank you 😉
Color Correction: TATOOINE.
Link 1: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129061
TRAILER: https://vimeo.com/317461470
PM me for links!
Hi everyone.
I’m working on another edit. I hope to continue with the other two prequels.
So… don’t curse me, but I always kinda liked Episode I. Yes, there are many problems. Many.
But in the end, with every one of them I came to some kind of acceptance. Apart from Jar Jar and young Anakin.
On the other hand, though, TPM has a pretty good mixture of real sets, puppets, and CGI. It feels way more realistic than Episode II, which is the worst SW movie by far IMHO. The duels are among the best of the saga, I don’t mind the political subplot, and the soundtrack is so cool.
Anyway, I’ve been intrigued by Sheepish edit, so here it is.
EDIT: I had to change my plans. I can’t make the edit begin with Tatooine. The movie would just be around 1hr, because I would have to cut all the “We need parts for the ship” sections.
OVERALL CHANGES.
Complete color correction, to give a more grounded feel.
Reduced Jar Jar.
Many changes in voice pitch. Padme sounds a little bit younger, Anakin a little bit older. About Gunray and his companion, I lowered the pitch at minimum, so that the audience cannot understand what he is saying, and so that I can add subtitles (but this is just a test. Considering that I’m not american nor british, TO ME it sounds ok, but I’ll need some comments about it).
Naboo is Alderaan. That’s an idea already established in the crawl. Plus, by removing any mention of Naboo and working with subtitles, that can be achieved.
Added OT soundtrack whenever I can.
COMPLETE CHANGELIST (Work in progress)
New crawl.
The invasion of Alderaan happens just after the Jedi speak with Gunray aboard the ship. It makes the Federation more threatening.
Reduced Qui Gon and Obi Wan talking.
Gunray and the other fear the Jedi, but not that much, and they blame Sidious for not forseeing that.
Reduce droids speaking.
Different montage in the duel with the droids.
Not “Is that legal?”, “I will make it legal”.
The Jedi don’t “Force run”, to fix the plot hole of Obi Wan not running to save his master at the end.
Reduced Jar Jar introduction. He just says his name and then he is interrupted by the droid on its bike.
Entirely removed the trip to gungan city. Completely useless. Plus, we keep the “revelation” of the number of gungans for the third act. Obi Wan, Qui Gon and Jar Jar simply smuggle into the city to save the queen.
Reduced bad Keira Knightley acting.
Qui Gon does not say that the pilots have to be rescued. It sounds and looks like a sidequest from a videogame to me…
Droids simply say that they are under arrest.
Reduced space escape. R2 just repairs the ship and they leave.
Added OT Tatooine music when R2 is presented, and when they walk into Tatooine city.
Fake queen does not order Padme to clean the droid.
No Jar Jar stepping on a poo.
Cut Watto saying that mind tricks don’t work on Toydarians.
Exchange between Padme and Anakin moved after the Qui Gon and Watto scene, and reduced. Also Jar Jar reduced. When the kids look away, it’s not because of Jar Jar, but because Qui Gon re-entered the shop. I think it flows quite well.
No “I was glad to meet you too!”. And no “Yuppie!”.
Trimmed Sebulba scene.
No “Moooom, moooom, I’m hooome!”
Trimmed dinner sequence. Reduced Anakin, Jar Jar and Qui Gon.
Trimmed Qui Gon and Shmi’s sequence. No Christ metaphor. Plus, this scene is important because it is the first scene that shows the Jedi how I want them to be shown. Good people, but cold and proud. Qui Gon says to Shmi that she should be proud of Anakin. But not because he is a good kid. No, because he is Force sensitive. This makes Qui Gon colder.
Moved here the scene of Maul landing on the planet. It looks like it’s sunset.
Then we move to the blood analysis. I kept this scene. No midichlorians, but I like the fact that Skywalkers are so strong in the Force that it can be seen in their blood.
Trimmed the whole podrace sequence. Some OT tracks. Reduced race. No Jabba. Anakin starts the race along with all others.
Reduced exchange between Qui Gon and Obi Wan.
No “Qui Gon, sir, wait, I’m tired”.
Trimmed dialogue between Anakin and Padme aboard the ship.
Trimmed sequence between Padme and Palpatine. Similar to Sheepish edit. Padme interrupts Palpatine, and no Anakin and Jar Jar.
No mention of the Chosen One in the Jedi Council.
Trimmed Senate, Anakin’s test and Padme-Palpatine sequences.
No mention of midichlorians by Qui Gon. What he says to Anakin looks like a first lesson.
Aboard the ship, Dooku radio-contacts Qui Gon. They say: “Qui Gon… my young apprentice”. “Yes, my master”. “The Viceroy of the trade federation is now under the control of a Dark Lord of the Sith called Darth Sidious. You must join me, and together we will destroy the sith!”.
The track “Palpatine’s seduction” is used here. Qui Gon doesn’t reply, so it looks like, after this mission, he will actually join Dooku.
No mention of Naboo when we see al the gungans.
In the royal palace, Gunray says that the droid army has destroyed the planet resistance led by Organa.
Trimmed “plan explanation” scene.
The battles are not drastically changed. Jar Jar is way reduced. In this movie he is not that present, and so when he is on stage he is not that annoying.
The main difference is, as countless other edits have already brilliantly done, that Anakin KNOWS what he is doing. And in the end he saves the day. When he is trying to reactivate his fighter, I mirrored the Luke/Ben scene in the BAttle of Yavin. Anakin hears Qui Gon voice from prior moments of the movie. Then the fighter turns on.
With some montage, Padme, after being captured, does not free herself by shooting the droids. The droids have been deactivated by Anakin. So they take the blasters but they don’t shoot.
Qui Gon dies without a word.
No Yoda and Obi Wan scene. I want to make this trilogy so that the relationship between Obi Wan and Anakin is not that clear. They are friends, not specifically Master-Apprentice. So, in the funeral scene, Obi Wan just says that Anakin will be a Jedi, not that he will train him.
Sooooo… I think it flows quite well. Not perfect, but it’s quicker, cheesy lines are reduced, we keep all the main plot points.
Anakin feels more mature, Padme looks like a young, but strong character. Qui Gon is a good but cold and proud Jedi Knight, and we still can’t judge the Jedi Council. All is grey…
Important question:
I’m thinking about working on another edit.
I need someone who could make a crawl for me.
I know there are some tutorials about blender, but I don’t have it, and crawls made with Sony Vegas look like crap. Is there anyone here who could make one?
Just a suggestion to return to the process of making the audience believe Anakin is dead.
I was thinking about not making Obi Wan kill Grievous and move the Grievous-Palpatine hologram scene towards the end of the movie. When Grievous says “But the loss of Count Dooku…”, it could be changed with “But the loss of Anakin Skywalker…” (taken from the beginning, aboard the separatist ship). And then Palpatine says what we know: “His death was a necessary loss. Soon I will have a new apprentice, one far more powerful”.
It could enhance the belief that Anakin is really dead, and that Darth Vader will be Palpy’s new apprentice. Of course you would have to make Grievous survive, but sill.
The whole problem is with Obi Wan in ANH.
A young JEDI named Darth Vader, he was a PUPIL of mine before he turned to evil, helped the empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered YOUR FATHER.
No edit can remove Anakin falling to the Dark Side. It is impossible. So we KNOW that Anakin has fallen.
We need to hide the fact that he was Obi Wan’s apprentice, we need to make people think that he is not Luke’s father, we need to make the audience believe that Darth Vader is someone else.
Some of these have already been told.
Problems:
I struggled so much with trying to keep all the plot twists in my first ROTS edit, especially becuase of Obi Wan’s line in ANH.
Right now, while reading your suggestions, I’m feeling dumb. I think that would work perfectly…
Could I get a link for this, please?
Thank you!
https://vimeo.com/302891966
Here’s my own on vimeo 😉
Again, I didn’t act on audio. It’s just to show a different cut.
Lol, sorry…
It’s not a miracle edit, but I’ll upload it on vimeo.
Here is another test made by different suggetions.
I didn’t add any music tracks, so don’t take the audio track as definitive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lynuDu9Ilc&feature=youtu.be
Obi Wan vs Anakin is reduced, no Yoda vs Palpatine, Senate scene and Order 66 scene happen during the duel, and Yoda mentally witnesses the duel…
password: fanedit
The sounds are entirely unfinished, as I haven’t really isolated the dialogue or completed the saber sound effects. This is a proof of concept more than anything.
I like it. The only problem of course is that they constantly change location from one shot to another.
I think we should put other scenes between different parts of the duel. If we don’t want Yoda going to Palpy, though, it’s really complicated, because apart from Yoda meditating we don’t have other scenes that could happen during the duel on Mustafar.
I like the music and the sound effects.
PS: Or we could… I don’t know, maybe add some dissolve effect between different parts of the duel. If done well, it could show the passing of time.
